A friendly (and rational) reminder that a collapse would be terrible for MGTOW

[VarunParticipant 2981]

sidecar wrote:

Well then shouldn’t the odds of him successfully taking what he needs by force in the first scenario also be 50%? Both scenarios devolve into violence, the only difference being who initiates it.

I trust the femzi’s self interest over their need to kill.

I have successfully tried this “you help me, I help you” tactic before with people. (There’s a word for it: Mutualism). The key is that if you’re dealing with a big bad boy, you don’t start with violence; it disempowers him.

You are right: there’s all the chance in the world the fems will backstab MGTOWer when asleep. If they get angry, they don’t think rationally; they won’t be like :”Oh, we’d need this fellow. We don’t know how to set the sails or measure the wind”.

But just look at History. Every major Superpower clashes ended with treaties. Including the WWII. The Allied guys had to make sure that another Hitler does not rise up again, so they set up a treaty that wasn’t so ‘damaging’ as was the treaty that ended WWI. USA and USSR, the cold war. Why was there so much stress on peace and mutual co-operation?

They could have just blown each other out. But that is not human nature. Out instincts tell us to be risk-averse; therefore, in a situation where violence might look like the only way out, we cling on to whatever ‘peace’ treaty we can find, even for the big bad boys, in this case femzi and, of course, you too.

The third option of false pretense you say could also work, but its tactically less preferable, because if you got caught, they’d be sure to skin you alive. I found it better to be straightforward than pretend to be someone you are not. That’s what women do, ‘pretend’, we don’t and never will someone like Mr. tower.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Varun wrote:

I trust the femzi’s self interest over their need to kill.

The problem with that is that femzi’s perceived immediate self interest is often at odds with their long term actual self interest of which they are utterly oblivious.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

sidecar wrote:

Varun wrote:

I trust the femzi’s self interest over their need to kill.

The problem with that is that femzi’s perceived immediate self interest is often at odds with their long term actual self interest of which they are utterly oblivious.

Then it just makes sense to adjust yourself to their liking. More like ‘white-knighting’ or pandering to them. Yes, but only if you don’t mind blowing your own self-image as a man going his own way. It will be very hard… be it working with them pretending to be their ally, or adjust yourself so that they don’t hate you.

The question is, is it really worth going our own way, when the only way out is if you don’t?

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Varun wrote:

Imagine this: MGTOWer is stuck on an island and feminists are stuck on another. There is a small road that links both the islands but both parties set up a perimeter so that neither can enter the other’s territory.

Both the islands have limited food supply, MGTOWer has less because feminists can eat each other if theirs run out.

Another twist: MGTOWer’s island haas all the wood that he can use to build a ship and sail towards his freedom. But he don’t have masts and rope.. which ARE on the other island with the feminists.

Our friend has two choices:

1) Risk his life, breach the perimeter, kill ’em femzis with his .303, pillage those ropes, build a ship and sail away.

Success rate: 10% because he is vastly outnumbered, like 20 to 1, and I give him the edge by saying the femzis don’t have guns, but they got claws and teeth.. and given the chance they could rip him apart and roast him for dinner. And the food supply is NOT adequate that he could survive long enough to cut up all that wood… build a ship and set sail. There a huge chance he’d die, either in combat or hunger.

2) Negotiate an agreement with the femzis, “you give me rope, I reserve space for you people in my ship” and also the added manpower will result in faster construction.

Success rate: 50% because given their differences, it might take turn for the worst; but it has an equal chance to be successful.

Which one would you choose?

Build a boat with oars.

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