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We’ve been on a hi & bye/small talk kinda thing and I can tell she liked me because she just wouldn’t leave me the f~~~ alone.
Today, I talk to her and was honest and straight forward. I told her that she is a single mother and I am trying to get my life together, so me being in a relationship would be very irresponsible and all I have to offer is companionship and physical intimacy. She then said, “So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”. This kind of threw me off a little bit so i gave a very noticeable confused look for like 5 seconds and said, “is that how you see it?” Then she was a bit more understanding and says she sees where i’m coming from and she is busy with work and her son as well and pretty much agreed to be f~~~ buddies.
However, it didn’t hit me until after we were done talking what she actually meant. She considered her son a “bad thing”. She wanted to exchange sex & companionship for her son (which is a given to me with any single mom)….but the fact that she just outright called her son a “bad thing” was surreal to me after i noticed it. Hilariously surreal.
LMAO @ single moms. We’ll see how this plays out. The moment i see any manipulation or any of that s~~~ im out.
“So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”.
This is also a guilt tactic disguised by obliquely demanding that you man up. She knows that taking on a child that is not your own is a burden. The sex will dry up the split second a man gets in to a committed relationship with her.
i gave a very noticeable confused look for like 5 seconds and said, “is that how you see it?” Then she was a bit more understanding and says she sees where i’m coming from and she is busy with work and her son as well and pretty much agreed to be f~~~ buddies.
She is still trying to stealth your ass. If you call a woman on her hypocrisy, and then she automatically comes to your side, then she is trying another tactic rooted in hypocrisy, with the objective of nailing you down. This is accomplished by letting “have your moment”, and acquiescing to your “superior logic”
Double wrap your unit my friend.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
Anonymous18I have argued that for a woman to have any man take on responsibility for her child (which she had with another man) is a sure-shot way of her thinking of the said man as one of the saddest, desperate kind among men. I look at how selfish women are; and I look at what a man in a position to be in a relationship with a single mother has to inherit. I don’t think any woman can comprehend what altruistic behavior is. So her only logical (emotional) reasoning is that the man can’t get pussy elsewhere.
Combine that with the practical legitimate resource hog that the child will be on the man.
I have dated a single mother and to me a fat girl who is desperate for some action is more suitable if I would even consider a single mother again. If I do then my desperation and a fat ugly girl’s desperation are a good match.
There are no free lunches my friend. Unless you are a sociopath, you will be made to feel responsible for not only her child, but the circumstances she made the bad choices in and worst of all you’d be expected to undo her mistakes of past.
It’s a theory in progress; if you are banging this woman please do indulge in some details when she starts to play her cards (rightfully so).
I have a single mother trying to wrap me around her finger as well. We agreed when we met that there be no silly talk about marriage or relations~~~ and I told her I refuse to discipline her kids, I learned my lesson. It was all good for 7 months.
Today, she bombs my tablet with depressed messages about “losing” me (she never “found” me in the first place), loving me, missing me…. all because I decided to stay home this weekend, like doing what I damn well please is new to her.
These bitches are all the same. They might seem to agree with you when you lay it on the line but months later they act like you promised to marry them.
Get real, ladyDon't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I have argued that for a woman to have any man take on responsibility for her child (which she had with another man) is a sure-shot way of her thinking of the said man as one of the saddest, desperate kind among men. I look at how selfish women are; and I look at what a man in a position to be in a relationship with a single mother has to inherit. I don’t think any woman can comprehend what altruistic behavior is. So her only logical (emotional) reasoning is that the man can’t get pussy elsewhere.
Combine that with the practical legitimate resource hog that the child will be on the man.
I have dated a single mother and to me a fat girl who is desperate for some action is more suitable if I would even consider a single mother again. If I do then my desperation and a fat ugly girl’s desperation are a good match.
There are no free lunches my friend. Unless you are a sociopath, you will be made to feel responsible for not only her child, but the circumstances she made the bad choices in and worst of all you’d be expected to undo her mistakes of past.
It’s a theory in progress; if you are banging this woman please do indulge in some details when she starts to play her cards (rightfully so).I kind of agree with that theory because I have a friend who has been dating a single mother for over a year and is so pathetic that he takes her back everytime she dumps him. However, this isn’t the first time I’ve been in a similar situation as stated in the OP and I do not have patience with females (if you would call that sociopathic then sure). I’m still MGTOW strong and know what’s up before i even enter the situation and have my friend as a constant reminder of the situation that i DO NOT want to be in, so I think I’m good.
EDIT- i quoted and responded to medic as well but I guess it’s under review. i hate when that happens.
I have a single mother trying to wrap me around her finger as well. We agreed when we met that there be no silly talk about marriage or relations~~~ and I told her I refuse to discipline her kids, I learned my lesson. It was all good for 7 months.Today, she bombs my tablet with depressed messages about “losing” me (she never “found” me in the first place), loving me, missing me…. all because I decided to stay home this weekend, like doing what I damn well please is new to her.These bitches are all the same. They might seem to agree with you when you lay it on the line but months later they act like you promised to marry them.Get real, lady
so typical. Then they act heartbroken and surprised when you actually stick to your guns and don’t fall for their agenda lol.
Trust me, I know it’s all a matter of time before she f~~~s up and expresses her true colors.I have a single mother trying to wrap me around her finger as well. We agreed when we met that there be no silly talk about marriage or relations~~~ and I told her I refuse to discipline her kids, I learned my lesson. It was all good for 7 months.Today, she bombs my tablet with depressed messages about “losing” me (she never “found” me in the first place), loving me, missing me…. all because I decided to stay home this weekend, like doing what I damn well please is new to her.These bitches are all the same. They might seem to agree with you when you lay it on the line but months later they act like you promised to marry them.Get real, lady
so typical. Then they act heartbroken and surprised when you actually stick to your guns and don’t fall for their agenda lol.Trust me, I know it’s all a matter of time before she f~~~s up and expresses her true colors.
The thing is that when you tell ’em what’s up from the git-go, they don’t believe you’re serious. They think you’re only saying that because you “want to be the big man” and they think “Wait ’till he gets a taste of what I can offer him”! As if their pussy isn’t like all the others and they hold the secret to tame a man. I’m always Untamed!
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Be warned: she will f~~~-buddy you for a bit and then try to worm her little brat into your sphere of responsibility and your life, somehow. Might be something like “can you watch him for a few hours, I can’t find a sitter” or some such other bulls~~~.
When that happens, it is imperative you tell her no, every f~~~ing time, with no excuses. Be honest and say it ain’t happening and be prepared to dump her and her hole in the trash. Don’t lie about it and say you would if you could but blah blah blah, because in doing so you actually said you are willing to.
Other than being your cumdumpster, she, her lifestyle, and her brat are useless to you – don’t forget that.
If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.Be warned: she will f~~~-buddy you for a bit and then try to worm her little brat into your sphere of responsibility and your life, somehow. Might be something like “can you watch him for a few hours, I can’t find a sitter” or some such other bulls~~~.
When that happens, it is imperative you tell her no, every f~~~ing time, with no excuses. Be honest and say it ain’t happening and be prepared to dump her and her hole in the trash. Don’t lie about it and say you would if you could but blah blah blah, because in doing so you actually said you are willing to.
Other than being your cumdumpster, she, her lifestyle, and her brat are useless to you – don’t forget that.thanks for the warning and direction
Anonymous9Just another s~~~ test.
I would take that as a bargaining position. By being able to walk MGTOW, and walk away, you have a much stronger bargain position. A woman will end up settling and compromise to get some things from you, if not all of them. She will hope that maybe someday it will turn around for her favor, but she also has intimacy needs, so she will settle. That is how it works. The one in a bargaining position who can afford to walk away more, will get more.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
She then said, “So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”.
In her mind she was thinking “I give you sex but dont get anything back?” Which to me is even worse because she gets back EXACTLY what shes giving you: sex. This is just demonstrable evidence that women view sex and their bodies as bargainig chips and leverage. The exchange is entirely reciprical and equal. But thats the problem: women ACT as if having sex with you is some blessing and in return they expect much, much more. As though she doesnt enjoy sex. Please.
I dont blame you if you want some tail, but I doubt this will end well.
Resident cynic.
Anonymous9Ask yourself is the pussy worth it?
Because I just got done going through some s~~~ similar. It didn’t take me long to come to the conclusion of NO.
Break free while you can.
“So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”.
Set her straight on that:
You want all the good things but won’t tolerate the bad things.“So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”.
Set her straight on that:You want all the good things but won’t tolerate the bad things.
I re-read this. Who WANTS the good and bad things? You WANT good and you put up with bad, if you have to. Some think it is impossible to get good without bad, and bad is required.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I would take that as a bargaining position. By being able to walk MGTOW, and walk away, you have a much stronger bargain position. A woman will end up settling and compromise to get some things from you, if not all of them. She will hope that maybe someday it will turn around for her favor, but she also has intimacy needs, so she will settle. That is how it works. The one in a bargaining position who can afford to walk away more, will get more.
It’s true and funny because we did go out one time and I haven’t contacted her since. She looks good, but I could do without her and came to the conclusion that females only hold me back on my quest, and now she did “settle” because I wasn’t as thirsty as her and proved to her that I can easily drop her like before.
She then said, “So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”.
In her mind she was thinking “I give you sex but dont get anything back?” Which to me is even worse because she gets back EXACTLY what shes giving you: sex. This is just demonstrable evidence that women view sex and their bodies as bargainig chips and leverage. The exchange is entirely reciprical and equal. But thats the problem: women ACT as if having sex with you is some blessing and in return they expect much, much more. As though she doesnt enjoy sex. Please.
I dont blame you if you want some tail, but I doubt this will end well.That’s the thing…..I know that I would demolish her and will probably be the best she has ever had and she may even get more pleasure and orgasms from it than me, so why the f~~~ are they acting like they’re doing ME a favor? lol oh well. The ones that have gave me access to their pussies only regret it once I stopped f~~~ing them. Too bad for the ones who rejected and never experienced.
“So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”.
Set her straight on that:You want all the good things but won’t tolerate the bad things.
Damn thats real. Who the f~~~ would want anything bad anyway? EDIT: as stated above by my boy slingshot
I have heard women finish their last drink at the bars and grimace while grabbing their keys out of their purse and say “time to pick up the brats!”.
Happy hour brings out the ugly truth from single mothers. They know they have baggage and are at a disadvantage in the dating game. After fishing in that five gallon bucket I bailed. When the kid starts knowing who you are the bomb timer is set and you got to GTFO.
She will get comfy and use that kid as emotional bait if long term. They are always lonely at night or weekends when the ex has the kid but to me I was just a dick on call. Sex wasn’t anything great so I bailed. Pussy was so-so so I left her ass so-lo bro!
Honestly had better sex with thick chicks with no kids or $$. They see my job title and start ass clapping haha..gold diggers..
The moment i see any manipulation or any of that s~~~ im out.
You already have.
What else do you think this “good things / bad things” guilt trip was?
I would walk away from this one while you still can.
Unless you are a sociopath,
Since when does common sense count as sociopathy?
I may be reading you wrong, but it seems to me you are falling for a common shaming tactic. Men refusing to waste resources on progeny in which they have no stake is NOT sociopathic. Women, with their vested interest in acquiring men’s resources by any means necessary, try to shame men by calling it that, but it doesn’t make it true,
“So you want all the GOOD things, but not the BAD things”.
This is also a guilt tactic disguised by obliquely demanding that you man up. She knows that taking on a child that is not your own is a burden. The sex will dry up the split second a man gets in to a committed relationship with her.
i gave a very noticeable confused look for like 5 seconds and said, “is that how you see it?” Then she was a bit more understanding and says she sees where i’m coming from and she is busy with work and her son as well and pretty much agreed to be f~~~ buddies.
She is still trying to stealth your ass. If you call a woman on her hypocrisy, and then she automatically comes to your side, then she is trying another tactic rooted in hypocrisy, with the objective of nailing you down. This is accomplished by letting “have your moment”, and acquiescing to your “superior logic”
Double wrap your unit my friend.I am aware of all of this. Call me arrogant or righteous, but there is no way that this woman is getting the best of me. I have low tolerance and patience with females and their bulls~~~. I know a single mom will ALWAYS be a single mom until they find a male provider no matter how much they agree to be f~~~ buddies with whoever or whatever they say. I will stand as firm as Arnolds erection in my display picture on my stance with these hoes.
I think in general women doesn’t want a f~~~ buddy relationship. In the beginning they could find it exciting but soon or later the want guarantees. It’s their nature: I believe feminism has taught women to accept a thing that isn’t suitable for them (for a change). No wonder she tried to make you commit more.
Nearby where I live there is a woman who is pretty cold with her young daughter. I don’t know what she thinks of her but your story make me think of them. Approximately 38 years old and divorced she was clearly in search for a beta provider. As she’s a good looking milf eventually she found one. Sometimes I see them around but that daughter seems always so sad.
A mother who thinks her child is a “bad thing” is a bad thing herself. Stay away from her. Have “fun” with her but nothing more.
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