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So… I f~~~ed up again. I can’t believe I painted myself into a corner.
There’s a younger girl, 22, that I see nearly four days a week. She works for a different company but interacts with ours constantly, which puts us together a lot of the time. She doesn’t work for my boss or vice versa.
She’s by far the most attractive female in and around my workplace and all the other guys fawn over her constantly, even though she has a boyfriend.
I don’t. I’m nice, but professional and NEVER join in sexually oriented conversations, ennuendo’s, etc. I’m also at least a decade older than everyone else, but don’t look it at all. I actually look younger than some of the guys in their early 20’s. I do act it, however, in that I NEVER brag about girls, pussy, dick size, getting wasted or any of the s~~~ all the other guys usually boast abour around girls.
I’ve always kept it classy. But I have noticed that she had started chameleoning me for the past few weeks, and has started to take on every character trait that I possess.
My attitude towards women has definitely seeped out while at work, more than a few times. They all know I am absolutely NOT looking for a relationship OR a fling, I’m flat out not interested. I’ve blatantly stated right in front of her that I will never let a woman in my house again, because as soon as I do, somehow she will start to change it, she will try to make it “our” house.
Because of her chameleon tricks, I believed her to be at least not a total slut because I’ve watched her brush off many attempts at getting her number, flirting etc.
Well… I let my guard down. She’s just too damned cute, and she was mirroring everything I would find desireable in a girl. While never openly stated or discussed, we started casually flirting veeeery subtly.
She told me about three weeks ago she had a dream about me. Nothing sexual, but that I was in her dream and I had called her to tell her about something stupid. I’ve never called her, texted her, snapchatted or anything else. Never.
Then she told me how she was telling her family about me, again just a story about me at work, nothing sexual or relations~~~ty.
After that, I started picking up on multiple IOI’s (indicators of interest) daily with her. Eye contact held for too long, (the catch me, f~~~ me eyes) and seeing her watch me from across the room. When I’m standing away from her she gravatates towards me, then finds things to show me on her phone while getting hip to hip close.
Again, nothing blatant enough to catch attention at work, but enough for me to notice.
I’ll admit, I enjoyed it. I hate admitting it but it feels good to be fawned over. For weeks I thought I was going to be able to play this out indefinitely… Just a casual little flirting to stroke both our egos. Thats as much female interaction as I want anymore. Nothing outside of work, nothing unprofessional. No sexual talk. No calling, no texts, no contact outside of work. Those were my rules.
Without any words spoken about it, I felt that we had an agreement that we wouldn’t push it past that. From what I’ve heard she sounds like she’s getting more serious about her boyfriend, and I’m blatantly NOT looking for a relationship or anything of the sort and she KNOWS it.
Just very casual light flirting, the way two married people of the opposite sex used to do without it ever going out of bounds. Respecting boundaries, would be the best way to phrase it.
Well, today she jokingly made a bet with me about something at work. Just a very light hearted ” I bet this won’t happen today…” It was not a real bet, like one between Men, with a handshake. Just a casual little saying.
Well apparently I won the bet. As we left today she followed me to my truck, continually chattering nervously. When I finally went to get in she dropped it:
“You won the bet, drinks on me tomorrow after work.” I told her that wasn’t necessary, it wasn’t even a real bet. But she persisted, “No, no, I want to! Drinks on me, I’ll drive or get us an Uber. You’ve got to try these margaritas at the place a few blocks down!”
I don’t remember what I said, probably just, “alright, see you tomorrow”, then drove off. I wasn’t firmly non committal, and I’m pretty sure what I said could have sounded like I would go.
The sad thing is I DO want to go. And I’m sure she can tell. F~~~. F~~~, f~~~ my life, F~~~.
I’m not going to Chad. I’m not going to do that. But goddamned it I feel like a moth to a flame….
This s~~~ seems to happen constantly, since going MGTOW. My last LTR literally came knocking on my door THREE different times before I finally caved.
My last little fling with a 19 year old happened just like this, at this same job only a month or two ago (she doesn’t work there now).
FUUUCK. Every physical part of my being desperately wants to go. I know she just wants to blame the drinks. We WILL end up making out. Probably more. Likely a blowjob. Nah, DEFINITELY a blowjob in the car tomorrow night, if I want it. I’m experienced enough to know. Part of my brain is telling me to get some “manscaping” done, just in case it goes down.
Then the rational, intellectual side of me curses in revulsion. This f~~~ing WHORE. She’s literally looking at houses with her boyfriend. Talking about a mortgage. And she wants to buy me (potential Chad) drinks and likely a blowjob or more tomorrow night. Secret rendevous.
She wants to do the buying too because of the chameleon affect. I’ve stated outwardly that women just try to get free s~~~ out of guys all the time, and I’ve called out multiple girls I work with out on this. Not it a real rude manner, with kind of a joking tone, but the truth is in there. I’ve stated I won’t buy a girl anything. Certainly not drinks.
She’s playing me. I’m being hunted. Once again, my brain and my dick are in an epic, clash of the titans battle.
Probably won’t sleep well tonight, Gents. I wish I could firmly tell you all I won’t do it. I honestly couldn’t say at this point. F~~~.
Anonymous12“She told me about three weeks ago she had a dream about me. Nothing sexual, but that I was in her dream and I had called her to tell her about something stupid. I’ve never called her, texted her, snapchatted or anything else. Never”
For me that would be the clincher right there. Can YOU imagine telling HER that same thing and getting away with it?
The playing field is not level and as this is work related I just don’t think it would be worth the risk. Is there a brothel you can go to instead?
“She told me about three weeks ago she had a dream about me. Nothing sexual, but that I was in her dream and I had called her to tell her about something stupid. I’ve never called her, texted her, snapchatted or anything else. Never”
For me that would be the clincher right there. Can YOU imagine telling HER that same thing and getting away with it?
The playing field is not level and as this is work related I just don’t think it would be worth the risk. Is there a brothel you can go to instead?
The catch about my workplace is my boss and I are really good friends (long before I worked there) and he’s actually tried to encourage me to hit on her. He’s unfortunately heavily blue pilled and thinks I need a girl to be happy. He’s the type that just wouldn’t understand The Red Pill, so I don’t even bother.
The work situation is not the main problem. To me the morality of it is, plus the aftermath. What happens next?
I know me. I can’t only get one blowjob. That s~~~ just DOESN’T happen.
This really p~~~es me off. I was enjoying the very casual flirt. Why ruin it? F~~~!!
Alcohol + Sex = Rape Accusation = Conviction
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
You are drifting right into dangerous waters.
1. Are you prepared to spend a few nights (or longer) in jail if she gets drunk, you have sex, and then she decides it was rape?
2. Are you prepared to be a father if you knock her up and somehow she gets pregnant and wants to keep it?
3. Are you prepared to be fired from your job because of negative spillover into the workplace? (I don’t care how good a friend your boss is).Just my thoughts. Consider these risks very carefully, bro.
Edit: LISTEN TO STUMP!
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
I hope you can break free from this, bro.
1) don’t feel like you are betraying the monk, we are monk by choice, is a life style, a personal commitment.
2) you know you getting into a lot of trouble, she has a boyfriend for duck sake, it is not the first time she does this “SLUT ALERT CODE RED”
3) logic over emotions, what does logic tells you?
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
This poor man is screaming for help .
No problem bro .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Jerk off before you go, if you’re going at all
Be careful not to project a fantasy onto her. Right now she’s perfect in every way, but behind that idol – underneath that rock – is a nest of worms and vipers. Figure out what it is before you stick your dick in her.
You already know part of what it is – she’s a cheater, and right there, she has zero integrity, and is right there not worth your association.
Boys are made of snales and pig-tails…right?
Actually, that’s what girls are made of. That’s why the saying goes that it’s what boys were made of. If boys were really made of that, we wouldn’t need the saying to brainwash young kids.
Anonymous43Put this in the back of your mind. You going out with this chick will jeopardize a $300 million deal with your company, your professional community will find out, and you will not be able to get another job in that state, and we here on this forum will give you s~~~ until the end of time because stuff on the internet lasts forever. 4000 years from now, some archeologist is going to find this server, turn it on and read this, and the future will know how badly you f~~~ed up.
There, did that fortify your resolve?
Anonymous3What is this garbage?
This is the exact reason why I always encourage all men in their teens and twenties to sleep around. Have sex with as many hot young women as possible, so that come your 30s every time a girl bats her eyelashes at you, you don’t have to run onto the internet to write a novel and complain how “screwed” you are, when you’re really just trying to crow about some c~~~ doing pointless inconsequential things that mean nothing.
This girl doesn’t give a s~~~ about you. She’s just messing around, throwing out bait. Yet you’re obsessed and thinking about it all the time. For her it’s a joke, a little game when she sees you, for you it takes up every waking moment.
Get this s~~~ out of your system in your teens and twenties when there are no repercussions and it’s expected.
Don’t be like this dude in his 30s that literally can’t sleep at night because a girl said a few pointless words. He could just do nothing, and that would be that, but he’s worked himself up into an entire fantasy in his mind and practically married the girl.
I’ve had this “bet” thing happen to me as well, right around 30 or 31 last. You can literally just do nothing, and nothing will happen. Just play it off. They will be a little passive aggressive for awhile until they find a better simp to latch onto. But they will not do anything other than act a little cold at times after trying to get your attention.
OP obviously has very little sexual experience. Sounds like how I was at 14 or 15, over-thinking every little thing and going crazy.
Get a dozen shags under your belt at least, and it’s the same old s~~~ every time and gets boring. This is also a major reason why women are so in control and so detached and unemotional, they get to that number by the age of 20 at the latest. The average man struggles to get 2 by the time he is 30, and that’s why he has so many problems. Perhaps this is the only time anyone will ever see me suggest something PUAish. Because it’s clear as day some men become wrecks in their 30s otherwise.
We need a new section for this s~~~.
A “Fell off the Wagon” section or something like that. Too many of these stories posted every week. We need a specific place for all this.Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Anonymous38So… I f~~~ed up again. I can’t believe I painted myself into a corner.
What corner? You haven’t done anything and you don’t have to go for drinks. Just say you were tired or you didn’t want to. NFG.
I know how this sounds but her me out.
Star eating a lot off egggs, beans, broccoli, and peppers. Fart as much as possible around her. Maybe go a few days without taking a shower and get a nice musky smell going.
If you start to give her something that triggers a disgusted response when she gets too close, she might lose interest. Also, sneeze and don’t cover your nose or mouth.
Maybe let some boogers hang out in your nose. The whole point is to make her physically find you disgusting.
You could always tell her you just found out you have herpes. That might backfire if she gossips around work though.
If you really want the affection to stop, you have to take some uncomfortable measures.
Star eating a lot off egggs, beans, broccoli, and peppers. Fart as much as possible around her. Maybe go a few days without taking a shower and get a nice musky smell going.
Brussel sprouts , fried onion and garlic . It sounds vampireish .
………………..
But on a serious note once again phoinex with wise words about when your a young guy .
Just wear f~~~in protection .
Dont let them play you into a relationship make it clear straight up ya deal . Bang em and leave or a hit and run . Lol
This add isnt graphic but f~~~ it has always stuck in my head from the 80’s .
I think its the most powerfull 40 second add i have seen .
SO TRUE . So think of this before ya cupcake spins ya s~~~ she has only f~~~ed two guys and never given a blowjob . Dont beleave she is just a natural
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
You were smart enough to post and ask for feedback. That’s the rational side, trying to keep the emotional side from making a misstep.
What can anyone say? You understand the inherent risks involved. The choice is ultimately yours. Along with the consequences.
Workplace scenarios can tail spin very quickly.
Let me share one experience that I saw first hand. We had a husband show up, and flat out attacked a male employee, who apparently was banging one of the females. Police got involved. He was charged. It was really embarrassing for everyone.
So the misses, did not keep it under her hat. And buddy at work got a nice shiner as a result. People rushed in and kept it from escalating further. But the husband was bigger and could have inflicted much more harm.
You’re in that romantic phase. Where all the feel good chemicals are flowing. And it totally shuts down the rational side. Biology is now in play.
Just know that it can have very serious consequences. The work thing, is one of the worst places to get tangled up in. Any contact with women, is dangerous at best. But at work. It’s like putting your head on the chopping block. Way too many openings for the female to f~~~ you over with.
Either way, good luck.
“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”
What is this garbage?
This is the exact reason why I always encourage all men in their teens and twenties to sleep around. Have sex with as many hot young women as possible, so that come your 30s every time a girl bats her eyelashes at you, you don’t have to run onto the internet to write a novel and complain how “screwed” you are, when you’re really just trying to crow about some c~~~ doing pointless inconsequential things that mean nothing.
This girl doesn’t give a s~~~ about you. She’s just messing around, throwing out bait. Yet you’re obsessed and thinking about it all the time. For her it’s a joke, a little game when she sees you, for you it takes up every waking moment.
Get this s~~~ out of your system in your teens and twenties when there are no repercussions and it’s expected.
Don’t be like this dude in his 30s that literally can’t sleep at night because a girl said a few pointless words. He could just do nothing, and that would be that, but he’s worked himself up into an entire fantasy in his mind and practically married the girl.
I’ve had this “bet” thing happen to me as well, right around 30 or 31 last. You can literally just do nothing, and nothing will happen. Just play it off. They will be a little passive aggressive for awhile until they find a better simp to latch onto. But they will not do anything other than act a little cold at times after trying to get your attention.
OP obviously has very little sexual experience. Sounds like how I was at 14 or 15, over-thinking every little thing and going crazy.
Get a dozen shags under your belt at least, and it’s the same old s~~~ every time and gets boring. This is also a major reason why women are so in control and so detached and unemotional, they get to that number by the age of 20 at the latest. The average man struggles to get 2 by the time he is 30, and that’s why he has so many problems. Perhaps this is the only time anyone will ever see me suggest something PUAish. Because it’s clear as day some men become wrecks in their 30s otherwise.
Great post – and great topic as well. It shows how starved men are of quality(?) female attention.
This might not just be a ‘quick lay’ for OP, but an actual unicorn starting to spellbind him.Beware of its spiraling horn though!
I don’t understand WHY this woeman has a boyfriend, when she clearly doesn’t give a S~~~ about him.
Haha, woeman 101.
Anonymous0Ask for her fiance’s number so you can invite him, too.
Bring a friend as a witness
DO NOT BE ALONE WITH HER.
TELL her that you feel this is inappropriate and could be mis- interpreted by her boyfriend and then ask to meet him.Ask for her fiance’s number so you can invite him, too.
Bring a friend as a witness
DO NOT BE ALONE WITH HER.
TELL her that you feel this is inappropriate and could be mis- interpreted by her boyfriend and then ask to meet him.Good advice, but
DO NOT BE ALONE WITH HER.
I think this is exactly what OP wants now. And definitely after a couple of drinks.
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