Struggling

[tony618Participant 38]

Wanted to post about my struggle with online dating (or lack thereof)

Recently turned 35 – and decided that I was happy with myself/life and gave up the nightmare of online dating– as the experience of doing this in my early 30s made me miserable. However, the constant pressure of family and friends saying “well you have to try” or “I am banging mad chicks on bumble” has me second guessing. I know MGTOW as a philosophy is great– but how does everyone balance attempting to meet someone vs just saying I’m single/happy and staying that way.

I’m also dreading going back on-line as I’m 100% sure I don’t want kids – barely think I would be ok with getting married – but saying no to kids (forget about saying that about marriage) is an absolute death sentence to get any halfway decent looking woman to respond. Woman are crazy – they might not want to have kids themselves- but if you are honest and put it in a profile, I find you won’t get anyone to answer. (my opinion)

Part of me feels like saying f~~~ it – and giving my family and friends the answer of “Sure I meet woman – 3x a year – when I go to the Dominican Republic for a week” lol.

Net of what I’m asking is how does everyone balance the “trying” part with “happy with the status quo – don’t want to try”

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

You cannot concern yourself with making everyone happy and this includes family and close friends. You need to do what is right for you and what makes YOU happy. When people say things like “You have to try” ask them “why” and see what kind of answer you get. There are a lot of blue pillers who still think that the top achievement for a man is getting a woman. Remind those individuals of the divorce rates and the amount of paternity fraud that happens. No amount of so called happiness is worth a divorce nor is being tricked into taking care of a child that isn’t yours any better. For those that persist I would just simply say that I haven’t found the right one. This isn’t lying since you are looking for a unicorn and only MGTOW knows that they don’t exist.
As far as on line dating goes I’d steer clear of that mess. Women always lie and on line dating allows them to take it to the next step. That picture on her profile was probably taken 5 years and 50 pounds ago. Women also lie about their age as well by always posting what age they believe they look like rather than what they are. Most of the profiles are mere nets for gathering attention. They really have no interest in meeting or in a relationship but it does boost their ego to see how many letters of interest they get for their profile.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[tony618Participant 38]

Thanks Mr. Spock. The other comment I get all the time from the family + friends is “well when you are older you don’t want to be alone”. So let me get this straight – you are supposed to get married so 30-40 years later when you are old and sick – you can have someone sit by your bedside and say “its ok?” What a crock of s~~~.

[Mr LogicParticipant 625]

Stay as far as f~~~ away from online dating. Women (even tatted land whales) get 100 messages a day and have so many options it’s a waste of time.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

I can’t wait til I’m living ALONE.

THE BIGGEST MISTAKES OF MY LIFE WERE GETTING MARRIED AND HAVING CHILDREN.

I fell for the societal pressures.

DON’T BECOME A SLAVE TO A WIFE AND CHILDREN !!!!

As far as your family and friends go; they’ll NEVER UNDERSTAND.

THEY’RE ALL BLUE PILL. Therefore, you must talk to them in Blue Pill.

For example, just tell them what THEY WANT TO HEAR. “I’m not dating now because I’m working on earning more money/getting a better job/becoming financially stable, saving for a family home( or WHATEVER) because I want to be able to provide very well for my future wife and kids” “I OWE it to them” blah, blah, blah BULLS~~~.

Call it lying if you will but since they REFUSE to let you LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE AS YOU CHOOSE then that’s all that you have left. As far as your buddies out banging all the whores on line. Let him have it until he knocks one up or ends up with some psycho bitch terrorizing his life.

Just because you don’t want to date doesn’t mean that you can’t hire professionals for sex as you wish. Do your business and get on with your life DOING WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO.

YOU are overcomplicating/overthinking all this.

TAKE BACK YOUR LIFE AND START LIVING IT FOR YOURSELF!!! F~~~ YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS CONTROL ISSUES !!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[GeraldParticipant 3620]

Struggling, take a few minutes to search threads by me and see my blue pill story.

Do not marry, stop dating, focus on you. It all leads to ruin.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[tony618Participant 38]

Appreciate all the responses – definitely helped to hear from each of you.

Awakened
I’m sure a lot of other people struggle on here about the societal and family pressures. It’s definitely not easy when you are the only one in a large family that isn’t married and are looked at as the “awkward and weird” family member. Granted, this has nothing to do with my personality just for the fact that I’m not dating and not married/have kids. Totally idiotic.

However, I get your point – man-up and stop worried about what anyone else thinks and focus on me. Guess until I joined this site, I didn’t realize that there were THIS many others that think the same way – so thank you.

Gerald
I read some of your posts and wow that really puts things in perspective. Thank you for sharing. Hope things are going ok for you now.

Lord Brady
Will definitely watch out for the “Land Whales” lol. Yeah, its amazing now how these online sites have led to every level of girl from ugly to hot – think their s~~~ don’t stink. Just more bulls~~~ validation to make them think they DESERVE everything in life and if you aren’t bringing flowers, opening doors, telling them how beautiful they are and NOT even looking in a general direction of another woman. Then you are worthy of talking to them.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

tony618 wrote:

Guess until I joined this site, I didn’t realize that there were THIS many others that think the same way – so thank you.

YOU are fortunate as YOU HAVE OPTIONS FOR YOUR FUTURE.

IF You get married, ALL YOUR OPTIONS STOP.

ALLOW YOURSELF TO LIVE YOUR LIFE ON YOUR TERMS.

I, like many Men grew up in this blue pill brain washed Matrix where WE BELIEVED that OUR OWN LIVES WERE NOT COMPLETE unless we got married and had children.

YOU have resources like this one and MANY OTHERS where you can learn how to manage all that blue pill societal brain washing. WE NEVER HAD THAT.

I only WISH that I could take what I have learned AFTER MY LIFE HAS BEEN WASTED and return to MY YOUTH, MY LIFE, MY FUTURE.

I’m an Old F~~~ and will be even older before I”M FREE.

YOU HAVE YOUR YOUTH, YOUR FUTURE, YOUR HEALTH, DON”T WASTE IT ON SOME HO THAT WILL CLAIM TO LOVE YOU TODAY AND DIVORCE RAPE YOUR ASS TOMORROW AFTER YOU HAVE PROVIDED HER WITH A COUPLE/FEW CHILD SUPORT PAYMENTS !!!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[pabsawakeParticipant 1761]

I don’t think you need to try anything according to anyone else’s standards. Just try to be happy with yourself first, all the other answers will com after that.

"You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Even after my 2nt divorce, family and friends were all about getting me to go through it again. I finally got family to come around. Social ideals still fall into a man and woman, so friends are still in the hey you need to get hooked up thing. I just realize what it is and smile and say thinks I am good.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

After 20 years of marriage and kids, living alone brings me great joy. The thought of dealing daily with female neurosis, makes me downright nauseous. If I’m lonely when I get elderly, I’ll address the issue then.

Sovereignty above all else.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Get married. Everyone is doing Drugs. Why not you?

Pegging is the NEW Blow job. Why not try it?

STD’s are everywhere. Why not pick up one today?

You need to be miserable like everyone else. It’s your duty as a man.

She needs help. Why not Help her out?

Why Not support the Lawyers that need jobs. Without you, they can not buy that Nice house and car.

SIN-GLE men are a THREAT. They know this. They KNOW you are RICH and BETTER OFF. Why not lose it ALL and participate in the Women’s Welfare system?

Your life is great. Hurry up and ruin it by getting HITCHED with a FAT trailer.

Why keep driving a new car when you can get an old broken down one that is worthless. Will never work. And will take you NOwhere. There are no parts to fix it. And you can even display it Proudly on the lawn. Hopefully with a car cover.

Do you have Money in your pocket? It must be so heavy. Here, let me take that off your hands.

DO your DUTY and STOP white Genocide! Single MOMS ARE standing BY. Don’t Delay, ruin your life today!

Buy that house just so you can have people move in all around you to ruin it. Drop the Property value, and steal your stuff. Good call!

Why be alive and free, when you can be dead with GLEE! No reason to be Happy, be Caged like an animal.

You are doing so well. Surley, you can Volunteer your time to help other women unf~~~ their lives.

BE all you can be. Be a Slave today. Millions of women want YOU to do YOUR DUTY!

Millions of women are being shot by guns. Why not be apart of the problem? Make more laws today!

Why not fall in love? You know everyone likes the feeling of falling….Till they hit the ground.

Women will tell you they want a warm fire. Nothing burns quite like Gonorrhea I heard.

At least when you sell your soul to the Devil, you may get something of value for it.

Women are all about saying they will turn things into more. They forgot to tell you about Debt as well.

If women were so great, why is everyone trying to kill them all the time?

SIGN ME THE F~~~ UP!

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

I could have a different women in my bed every night. It’s just a matter of time, effort, and money. It’s just not worth the risk.

[HermitParticipant]

There should be no struggle if you just do what you want to do that makes you happy. I gave up listening to other people a long time ago when they tell me what I “should” do and what I “need” to do. These days I tell them, “What YOU should do and what YOU need to do is stop telling me what I need and should do.”

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[narwhalParticipant]

A recovering alcoholic avoids bars and places where beer is served until he can go there without succumbing to the temptation. So avoid online dating sites if it’s too much of a temptation.

As far as dealing with family and friends who pressure you, I usually shut them up by going into a generic logical argument against marriage. Something that cannot possibly be construed as sexist or opinion based.

“Yea, I’ve thought about a relationship or getting married. The thing is that relationships are expensive, and I’d really like to retire at a decent age. I don’t want to worry about having to support someone else financially. The government doesn’t even allow you to legally keep separate finances in marriage. Heck, if one of us gets sick and stuck with massive financial bills it will ruin the other one. Getting married can actually be devastatingly cruel to the person you care about, due to the government’s laws around marriage. I don’t want to to do that to anyone.”

Saying this in front of a couple ends the conversation quickly.

Ok. Then do it.

[MonkParticipant 16975]

tony618 wrote:

I know MGTOW as a philosophy is great– but how does everyone balance attempting to meet someone vs just saying I’m single/happy and staying that way.

There are no unicorns. There is no-one out there to meet. Unless you are looking for trouble, that is.

I know MGTOW as a philosophy is great– but how does everyone balance attempting to meet someone vs just saying I’m single/happy and staying that way.

Tell it like it is. If they don’t like it, to Hell with them – it’s your life.

[GeraldParticipant 3620]

Simple. Ask them what is in it for me? If their answer sucks, they will shut up about it

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

I am going to be blunt: Don’t give a f**k what other people think. Live your own AUTHENTIC life. It’s the only one you get.

Do your friends want you coupled to validate their choices? If online dating made you miserable, DON’T do it.

If ‘banging mad chicks on bumble’ like your friends, is your goal, then work out, hang out, and attract the women. Just don’t move in with them or marry them. And if you like playing with this fire, get a vasectomy.

MGTOW does not necessarily mean rejecting sex. Perhaps you would opt for an FWB relationship if that would make you happy. Or just retire at 40 if that’s your goal. Not difficult to achieve as a single male with moderate income, in my opinion.

[AutoliteParticipant]

FrankOne wrote:

If ‘banging mad chicks on bumble’ like your friends, is your goal, then work out, hang out, and attract the women. Just don’t move in with them or marry them. And if you like playing with this fire, get a vasectomy.

And get a good lawyer on retainer. You’ll need that for all of the false rape and assault accusations that’ll be coming your way. Best of luck…

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

Autolite wrote:

FrankOne wrote:

If ‘banging mad chicks on bumble’ like your friends, is your goal, then work out, hang out, and attract the women. Just don’t move in with them or marry them. And if you like playing with this fire, get a vasectomy.

And get a good lawyer on retainer. You’ll need that for all of the false rape and assault accusations that’ll be coming your way. Best of luck…

I should have clarified, I DON’T like playing with fire, and drama, or STI’s. And let’s not forget, his friends said they were ‘banging mad chicks on bumble’, haha.

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