Strong independent women

[DocParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Branched off wrote:

Great idea. I think that would be a very simple yet very powerful experiment for a psychologist to undertake.

Thank you.

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I agree. A simple neat study.
Simplest are best because their findings are usually easiest to interpret.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

One of the most useful things I learned on this site was KM telling a woman she could have chivalry, or equality, but not both. As soon as I read it, I understood immediately the significance of that position.

I started doing a random survey of my own asking women I knew or met if they had to choose between them, would they choose chivalry, or equality. I’ve been doing this experiment for over a year now. I slip it into conversations as a casual observation so it doesn’t make the conversation confrontational. What I’ve found so far is that 100% of women I’ve asked cannot give me a straight answer to that question.

All of them, and I mean every single one of them that I have asked that question have hedged and given me some vague bulls~~~ that essentially tells me they still expect both. None of them will commit to either choice. On a few occasions, I’ve explained that the whole concept of chivalry is based on the assumption of female inferior ability to protect and provide for themselves. I get stammering and stuttering, but still no straight answer on a simple question with only two possible choices.

If ANY of them were EVER actually strong and independent, answering that question would be a reflex, and they would choose equality every single time.

My mother is a pretty tough old lady who has been more responsible than most, and less careless than most women. When I asked her this question, she chose equality immediately. No hesitation. When I asked her if that meant that she would be ok with my sisters being drafted into military combat units, she stuttered and stammered and sounded just like all the rest.

They only want equality until they get a taste of it.

“Strong and independent” is horse s~~~.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22527]

You cant be strong and independent while playing the perpetual victim card, and living off mens wallets and big daddy government.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22527]

They dont regret being strong andmindependent after the wall.

They regret not snagging a husbank before hitting the wall, now they have to really “settle”, because of the reality staring back at them.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22527]

Strong and independent, they are, until something unpleasant is expected of them.

Then they cry for chivalry and protection and special treatment.

All the while prior having enjoyed and benefitted from the parts of equality that worked in their favor.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

Anonymous wrote:

You know how nature has really colorful characteristics for toxic and venomous creatures, and that’s a warning to stay away? And how women with funny colored hair and tattoos and gaudy clothing are the same?

Well nature also has noises which indicate a dangerous creature. From shrieks to roars to hisses to rattles. All of those are warnings, get away.

When you hear women saying they’re “strong and independent” that is your warning, get away. Get away and then laugh afterwards when you’re safe.

Gold ! In its PUREST form.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

I like to think that once MGTOW really takes off, it will encourage women to be “strong and independent” because without men to help, women will either have to prove that they really are “strong and independent” or end up miserable and lonely.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22527]

The nature of woman is not strong and independent. Sure, a very small few % are, but they are lesbian or butch and act like men due to high t.

Their nature is not this because they do not want to be treated like men.

They will not end up proving they are. Because in real life they do not. They havent figured out how to any third word country, on their own. On any survival show that has women and men groups, the women are complete disasters at building or agreeing on anything. The most common response is to cry.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Strong for women means that they can go four hours without blabbing or texting some females.

Independent means that they aren’t currently receiving income from a guy. Passive income like alimony doesn’t count. If she’s receiving alimony, even high amounts, she is still considered independent.

A strong and independent woman would be able to be alone, focus on their relationship, and work a job that paid her way and then some for savings.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Branched offParticipant 10932]

An irony of the current culture is that they no longer teach women what I would consider genuine strength -to put up with challenges in life uncomplainingly (Instead they are told if you don’t like it protest about it until someone gives in), to practise sexual restraint (as opposed to you go for it girl, you are only young once), to be the heart of a family, to be ethical (as opposed to take any man foolish enough to love you for all you can).

They also used to teach them to cook, to mend, to care for a household and small children. These things would have also given them strength and a degree of independence when faced by the challenges of life. They would have been more self reliant. These days the system actually chastises those who would teach women these virtues and shames women who try to uphold them (why are you wasting your life on that frumpy nonsense girl when you could be earning pots of money, getting drunk, keeping your figure, buying clothes and riding alpha c~~~…)

No wonder they are not worth our time and energy any more. Strength and independence are attractive traits but the worst female vices re-branded as strength are very ugly. I do not see many strong women in Western culture these days. They are more like flaky attitude filled teenage girls, right up to the menopause.

The idea of a truly independent woman is an oxymoron, I think in this culture it just means a woman who is supported by the system to not directly need to rely on a man. If the system makes an individual man or men in general her bitch, then she can call herself independent because she does not have to ever compromise with or submit to a man in a relationship to still have access to his resources.

This is not actually independence, it is just dependency on the system, which actually makes women even more childlike than ever as they no longer need to be able to conduct adult relationships of cooperation and compromise, of tolerance, understanding, commitment and forgiveness.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[ghostParticipant]

Branched off wrote:

they are not worth our time

It is actually a big relief for me. I am not sure I could ever go back to talking to women even if I wanted to. I am just so far past it now.

I have had enough experience to know that I am better off being alone than in a one-sided relationship with a woman.

Merry Christmas, Branched. It’s good to have you here.

[Space CowboyParticipant 1466]

BrainPilot wrote:

One of the most useful things I learned on this site was KM telling a woman she could have chivalry, or equality, but not both. As soon as I read it, I understood immediately the significance of that position.

I started doing a random survey of my own asking women I knew or met if they had to choose between them, would they choose chivalry, or equality. I’ve been doing this experiment for over a year now. I slip it into conversations as a casual observation so it doesn’t make the conversation confrontational. What I’ve found so far is that 100% of women I’ve asked cannot give me a straight answer to that question.

All of them, and I mean every single one of them that I have asked that question have hedged and given me some vague bulls~~~ that essentially tells me they still expect both. None of them will commit to either choice. On a few occasions, I’ve explained that the whole concept of chivalry is based on the assumption of female inferior ability to protect and provide for themselves. I get stammering and stuttering, but still no straight answer on a simple question with only two possible choices.

This deserves a quote, it’s perfect in how it debunks the whole female self delusions of strong, independent and equal. I was thinking it til you said it, they cannot answer because they want best of both. They also don’t want anyone pointing it out and they s~~~ a brick when confronted with reality. Beautiful.

"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"

[Branched offParticipant 10932]

ghost wrote:

Branched off wrote:

they are not worth our time

It is actually a big relief for me. I am not sure I could ever go back to talking to women even if I wanted to. I am just so far past it now.

I have had enough experience to know that I am better off being alone than in a one-sided relationship with a woman.

Merry Christmas, Branched. It’s good to have you here.

Merry Christmas and thanks Gambit. I am grateful to have found somewhere I feel welcome.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2097]

As long as the hive and their cats think they are strong and independent that’s all that matters 😉

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

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