Starting Anew

[PlatoParticipant 48]

A first post in a new forum, brings pressure. One is wanted, perhaps expected, to be profound. ie make a profound statement. I however, will start with my current belief, if you date a woman now, date one that has a job, a home that she pays for, and a vehicle, preferably a pickup.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey Plato! Nice to see you started a thread already! Thanks for kicking the ball, man.

No pressure at all to be profound. Have you visited a female forum lately? I have. And let me tell you, I wish I hadn’t. It’s like thousands threads and posts on nothing but empty headed nonsense. Threads like: “Bored…. let’s start a new thread!”…. and “Bored. What are you looking at right now?”… with countess pages of nothing but 2-word replies like “my cat”…. “my ceiling”…. “my arm hairs”….. and even “my chair”.

It was a horrifying.

Like Shelly Duval (in The Shining) flipping through Jack Nicholson’s work which he spend months on, only to find “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” typed over and over again – thousands of times. Nothing you could possibly say was as dull and uninteresting as what I found on that chick forum. Damn, I wish I kept the link. I would rather our forum remained empty and unused than to find that s~~~.

I don’t even know how it’s possible – with all the things in the world to do, see, think, read, learn, taste and experience – how anyone could possibly be “bored”. Twenty-Five hours a day is already not enough. But I hear it from chicks all the time!

SHE: “I’m bored”.
ME: “Oh really? Well the bathroom floor is dirty. Clean that.”

Would it even cross her mind to create something to do instead of expecting someone else to f~~~ing entertain her?
(I think I just found the topic of a new thread! lol)

Anyway, about dating a chick with a home and a vehicle and a job….. never mind home-ownership, I would be thrilled to just meet one who has anything but “I’m bored” dancing around in her head. Do they even make those?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FreemanParticipant 32]

LOL! And nice job here guys. We all have different criteria for dating. If she’s attractive and has a kind disposition and doesn’t start drama as often as she goes to the bathroom, I would prefer that over any established career chick.

[DocParticipant 112]

Hell yeah, if she can’t stand on her own, i’m out.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

I like the librarian type.

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Hello everyone!

My second girlfriend did not work or drive and I learned my lesson. What made it worse was she was kind of the black sheep of her family, brought on by her as she liked to play the poor me card, so because she didn’t drive I had to always pick her up and take her home. She lived 16 miles away from me and we could never hang out at her sisters house where she lived because her brother in law said no, so we always had to drive back to my house. So that is 16 miles there, 16 miles back to my house, 16 miles to take her home, and 16 miles back to my house so as you can imagine I was wasting a lot of gas. She also would get mad if I spent too much before another pay check and had to conserve money because as she put it “when you don’t have money I suffer”. She even told me I could buy a tablet because I had just bought a new lap top 2 months before I met her, we had only been dating 2 weeks when she told me this. Of course as I told her ” I wake up a 4 am to go to work on weekends so that is my money. We don’t live together nor do we have kids. I live at home so I will spend my money how I want” Then on her friends birthday she was like “I know what I want to get her, I want to get her this camera she will like it” It was like $100 or $200 or something like that and then said “So can you go buy it?” Then at her friends party at one point she was like:
Her:”Honey I’m pouting because she gets to go to Disneyland this Christmas, you said you would take me this Christmas”
Me:”I said it sounded like a cool idea”(I just said it because we started dating I have no desire to go to Disneyland at Christmas and fight crowds)
Her:”Well you made it seem like you were going to take me and I got my hopes up”
Me: “It is the end of September and you don’t work. I don’t get my next check until October how would we even get the money?”
Her:”i DON’T KNOW”
Me: “Where would we stay or how would we get there?”
Her:”I DON’T KNOW”

I knew it was time to break up with her when one night I couldn’t even keep an erection with her lol.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey Bard! Welcome and thanks for joining. Especially for being one of the first to introduce yourself to the forums. Enjoyed your comment! When we get the ratings in place, I will thumb it up TWICE.

“I want to get her this camera ….. So can you go buy it?”

That’s a good one. I want a Lamborghini. So can you go buy it?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MechanizedParticipant 1]

Nice website guys, looks a lot better. I used to browse some of your topics when I needed some motivation a while ago but never posted anything on the forums.

[Forge groupParticipant 1]

Hi all, well I sent mine a text last week demanding a divorce, 4 long years of fly in and fly out with a nice water front to show for it, however the company went broke and along with it my job. Got a new one after five weeks at home where I find out my wife does not go in to work anymore but works for 2 hours a day the rest of that is spent at cafe’s drinking wine and eating fine food. But it doesn’t stop there she now has a personal trainer 3days a week and the brother has moved in as well. I have to say Aussie girls are the most deceitful s~~~s I have ever met, here am I spending $50 a week to get ahead in life doing 13 hour days and living in a donga all so she can live the dream showing off. So it’s fifty fifty I’m out an by f~~~ I have never felt better. Never will I enable a woman to have access my finances. Now I’m living the dream I’m off to Brazil to f~~~ as many hotties as I can get, who wants to join me on this crusade of swinging the sword for mankind

[TheBardParticipant 974]

MGTOW.COM yeah she was a crazy one. And looks like I am already off to a good start with you wanting to give my first comment 2 thumbs up lol.

Forge group I will never merge any of my accounts with any women. Typical modern age woman too. Goes on about how men control women and women suffer, but she seems to be doing just fine using all of your money to live her fancy life style and fulfill all her needs.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@mechanized Thank you! and we are very pleased to welcome you. It took us a while to find the right solution, and we just opened in April with a s~~~-ton of work to do. But the Forums were important to get going so guys could at least talk to each other. Really great of you to stop in on our first day.

Feel free to drop a thought anytime. Cheers!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DocParticipant 112]

Just a welcome and Hello to Bard and Mech!

[DocParticipant 112]

And Hello to Nord and Plato for for being the brave soul to start the party!

[DocParticipant 112]

@ForgeGroup Brazil has no place like it. The women in Rio and Buenos Aires are unforgettable. Congratulations on exercising the demon and getting out while the getting is great.

[IcyGreyWolfParticipant 1]

Hey guys, I have always sort of believed that I would rather date then get married as my father has been divorced twice, and his father also divorced twice. Not too mention my uncle is also recently divorced. I think it’s a curse, and to be honest. I don’t really mind. So with that said, sup.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Hello IcyGreyWolf, welcome. I feel you. If I ever date again I would rather just continue to date than get married because of all the divorce horror stories. Nothing wrong with just continuing to date and be committed.

[DocParticipant 112]

Sup!, IcyGrey. Welcome.

I think it’s important to note that whether or not a guy “want’s to get married” isn’t really up to him, anyway. It’s up to HER, and the kind of person she is. It’s very common for a woman to imagine a wedding and a marriage to a man she hasn’t even met yet (they do that all the time), but she’s got this phantom idea in her head when nobody is even proposing – which isn’t even realistic.

Even women without a boyfriend(!) will say s~~~ like “I really want to get married”….

But I’ve noticed guys will be more likely to wait until they MEET her, know her, and date her, and have fun with her for the necessary amount of time before he would even CONSIDER a “relationship” with her – never mind living with her until death. Women approach this all bass-ackwards.

They want to (and have already made up their mind) to “get married” before they even met the guy, dated the guy, slept with him, or spent any time with him! And that’s why their marriages fall apart. Because she’s so concerned about the damned wedding, the ring and the dress, it’s almost like she doesn’t even CARE who he is…. and it doesn’t COST her anything when she makes a bad choice. But it costs a man a HELL of a lot more when he screws up and marries the wrong broad.

I was seeing this chick about 4 years ago… for a few weeks. I would say we had a max of maybe 8-10 dates. So she spent the night and we went out for breakfast. Then she says “so I guess we’re in a “relationship” now?” I practically choked on my french toast. So I ask her “what’s my middle name?”. She looked completely stunned. I don’t even THINK about getting into a “relationship” for at least 6-9 months of knowing her – and knowing her WELL – so what is she doing wanting to get into a “relationship” with a guy who’s middle name she doesn’t even know??? That’s nuts!!!

Until that point, she didn’t ask how many brothers and sister I had, if my parents were still married, when my birthday is, how many languages I speak, where I went to school, where have I traveled in the world, do I play any musical instruments…. none of that s~~~. It’s like she didn’t even care! All she can think about is “being in a relationship” and where or not she can tell her friends “I’m in a relationship now.” It’s f~~~ing insane.

So it’s perfectly reasonable for a guy to say “I would be willing to date” and not even be able to VISUALIZE a marriage until he has met the girl and determined the girl is even WORTH MARRYING. That’s not going to be up to him. It’s up to HER and the kind of woman she is.

The criteria for sex is very short list. Is she attractive – or is she not.
The criteria for marriage is a mile-long list of things that are worked on – OVER TIME.

You’re 18726517654265431X times more likely to meet a woman you are willing to have sex with – than live with until death. That’s a guarantee. But it’s like women will marry ANYBODY just to be able to say she’s “married”! It’s lunacy.

Anyway, young guys shouldn’t even be thinking about it. Not for another 10 years at least – or until you are already well on your way to achieving your dreams. For guys, your options don’t even BEGIN to ramp up until you’re approaching 30 (or above) anyway. You have too much to look forward to to even THINK about it. Build your life. Get your s~~~ together. Have as many experiences as possible and as much FUN as you can.

Nice chatting with you.

[McQueenParticipant 77]

^^ THAT.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

What’s up Doc

Even women without a boyfriend(!) will say s~~~ like “I really want to get married”….

That’s because women, despite their “strong independent woman” posturing, know that this is a man’s world. A 40 year old bachelorette in the workplace is ostracized because she’s a pariah, a 40 year old bachelor is ostracized out of jealousy.

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Holy crap Doc, that sounds like my second girlfriend. When I met her she said she wanted to take it slow because she just got out of a relationship. I agreed, but after knowing her for 2 days she starts kissing me on the lips, after knowing her for 3 days she decides she wants to be boyfriend and girlfriend, and after knowing her for 6 days she says I love you. I should have ran at that point, but being only 22 and this being my second girlfriend I didn’t want to be picky lol. Anyway she was trying to get into the air force which kind of made me not want to get too serious because I was not going to do long distance with someone in the military, especially someone I just met and could be shipping out soon. She had it in her mind that she was going to be stationed at a base 40 minutes away so we could always see each other and I could be teach at a school on the base and we could live happily ever after. We hadn’t even been dating a month and she told me we had to be married within 2 years and told me she wasn’t even over her ex yet. She even went as far saying my money was “our money”, tried to tell me what I could and couldn’t buy, and even went as far as too start bitching at me because I posted on facebook I was going somewhere on a Friday instead of asking her first in person. When I brought it up that I didn’t want to be in a relationship because she might be deployed nor did I want to be forced into marrying in 2 years in case I wasn’t ready and it was kind of messed up she said she loved me, but wasn’t over her ex she pretty much lost her s~~~. and told me I didn’t care and wasn’t committed. Stupid me got back together with her a few weeks later and after having sex I learned that while we were broken she went back to her ex and had un protected sex. I told her she could have possibly given me an STD as she didn’t know what he was up to while they broke up and she starts crying because I accused her of giving me an STD.

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