SOTU Roundup

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

narwhal wrote:

I think the democrats would be doing much better if they had someone like Bill Clinton (before his women issues were exposed), a middle of the road guy, then going far left. But that isn’t what they are doing, so it doesn’t matter.

They only two men the democrats have whom could come close to pull that off are Biden and Sanders.

Biden has to much baggage from the Obama administration. The first question by President Trump in any debate with Biden is “during your time as VP, why did you not speak out about all the damaging Obama was working class of America?”

Sanders wrecked his political career after it came out he took a bribe from Hillary to stay quiet about Hillary stilling the democrat presidential nomination from her.

On the side note, Schultz is trying to go an independent run that triangulates to the political center, but at this point there is no real political center in the sense of moderate beliefs. The divide is to great and even those that fall outside the political parties hold strongly to their personal beliefs. Independents are likely as jaded as everyone else.

[narwhalParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

Nothing new. I can barely stand to watch the SOTU anymore. Every line in the speech is something that the President’s side is supposed to stand and clap for, and then watch for the reaction on the other side. What will they stand and clap for? It’s f~~~ing juvenile and stupid and both sides do it.

It does end up being a complex game of Simon Says, true. I imagine the speech writers are looking for the right words that force the opposing party to look bad whether they sit or stand. When you present a contrast between American freedom and socialism, it’s hard for anyone to claim anything in the middle. It’s presented as black and white options. I’m sure they’d love to be able to explain their stance, but that’s not an option.

But I like the game to be honest.

Ok. Then do it.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Faust For Science wrote:

They only two men the democrats have whom could come close to pull that off are Biden and Sanders.

I wouldn’t exactly describe Sanders as middle of the road…he’s about as far left as they come.

[narwhalParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

On the side note, Schultz is trying to go an independent run that triangulates to the political center, but at this point there is no real political center in the sense of moderate beliefs. The divide is to great and even those that fall outside the political parties hold strongly to their personal beliefs. Independents are likely as jaded as everyone else.

That’s a good point. I actually think Schultz is in play as a ploy by the RINOs to take down Trump. If he can take away some of the Trump voters, like a Ross Perot, then the democrats can win. With a democrat win, Republicans can go back to claiming to represent conservatives while doing the will of corporate donors.

Ok. Then do it.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Beer wrote:

I wouldn’t exactly describe Sanders as middle of the road…he’s about as far left as they come.

It depends on how you look at it.

If you consider supporting the working class, no matter in what way, then both Sanders and President Trump are in the political center. The globalists consider supporting themselves to be the political center, with supporting the working class to be an extremist viewpoint.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

narwhal wrote:

That’s a good point. I actually think Schultz is in play as a ploy by the RINOs to take down Trump. If he can take away some of the Trump voters, like a Ross Perot, then the democrats can win. With a democrat win, Republicans can go back to claiming to represent conservatives while doing the will of corporate donors.

Here is the point. From the republican point of view, Schultz was the CEO of Starbucks, the most SJW companies for several years. While running Starbucks, Schultz even pushed for some SJW policies that backfired.

The only votes Schultz will get will likely be from democrats, that is why the DNC and media went crazy when Schultz stated he would run as an independent.

The rinos have destroyed themselves. They either quit and handed their seats over to democrats, or they started to play ball with President Trump. The only person the never-Trumpers have whom could possibly spoil President Trump win in 2020 would be Romney, but it is likely Romney will, or already has realized that doing so would needlessly wreck his political career, when if President Trump wins in 2020, Romney would have a real chance as the presidency in 2024.

On the flip side, the corporate democrats have so driven much of the rank and file democrats insane, the corporate democrats have lot control with the rank and file democrats pushing for extreme collectivism.

[narwhalParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

The only person the never-Trumpers have whom could possibly spoil President Trump win in 2020 would be Romney, but it is likely Romney will, or already has realized that doing so would needlessly wreck his political career, when if President Trump wins in 2020, Romney would have a real chance as the presidency in 2024.

I can’t seem him with any chance, not unless he starts trying to erase his disdain for Trump. Assuming Trump wins in 2020, why would Trump supporters turn around and vote for a guy who hated Trump? Certainly not because he’s got an R behind his name. Obviously it’s way too early, but I think Pence is going to be the most likely candidate. I also think Rand Paul will be in the mix, but he seems to have disappeared a bit lately. And of course, there will be new comers.

Switching gears a bit, is the SOTU go to actually mean anything? Was it enough to push democrats into dealing on the wall? Will the democrats/media be able to wipe out any gains Trump made last night…10 days from now?

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

When one thinks about it… the Federal government should NOT be so huge and have so much power that it matters much who controls it.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I want to talk about THIS. See picture.

Dude, what the f~~~ is this separatist women’s gang wearing white coats and s~~~?! What, they think they’re doctors?! Makes me want to PUKE. Our government is now a f~~~ing teenager Pep Rally with a bunch of immature Gash sitting there all prude, pretending like they run s~~~ and have intelligence. GOD DAMN CHRIST, what a disgrace to see. Russia is laughing their ass off at us.

“The White Coats are coming! the White Coats are coming!” No need to worry, and NO, they aren’t doctors…just a bunch of affirmative action hires because you know…vagina!

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Just having some fun quoting. Nevermind me fellas!
Those foolish tunas in their white coats was soo distasteful, just hilarious!

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

… white shirts and bitter scowls ….

JB Books wrote:

Schumer should have put on a white dress too in solidarity.

narwhal wrote:

… mistake of wearing white, contrasting themselves from everyone else….

WPL wrote:

Demoncrats wearing white to protest imaginary threats

Faust For Science wrote:

The democrat women claimed to have dressed in white to honor …. the KKK.

(*sorry to ruin your quote, taking it out of context, but that was just too great to pass)

Okay, what’s next

Faust For Science wrote:

(Occasinal Cortez) … looked at her other democrat seniors whom would not let her (stand and clap). …henpecked by the other democrat women to follow the flock.

The Borg C~~~llective has no individuality. They have no original thoughts and should not be leaders…

narwhal wrote:

For claiming that we’d be at war with N. Korea if wasn’t elected president.

That part was true, no matter how many people hated to hear that, it was the goddamn truth. Hillary dude…

Faust For Science wrote:

The U.S. might have been WOULD BE in a war with North Korea by now.

Sorry but its true. Kim Jon Un is a crazy f~~~er who was firing missle over Japan and threatening to fire missles on Alaska and the West Coast of USA. Do you believe for one second that Hillary’s response to that would not have lead to armed conflict and causalities, and even a declaration of war??? Believe it, she already did s~~~ like that in the M.E.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Endearing photo of Clemancy Pelosi & her Cronies

Another photo of Nancy, Cortez and all the other useless trout c~~~s

Can you believe that these AirHead Snappers… their VOTE actually writes Bills into Laws.

We’d be better off DASHED ON THE ROCKS. We need a good SHARK feast to occur

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Faust For Science wrote:

It depends on how you look at it.

If you consider supporting the working class, no matter in what way, then both Sanders and President Trump are in the political center. The globalists consider supporting themselves to be the political center, with supporting the working class to be an extremist viewpoint.

No. It doesn’t depend how you look at it. Bernie Sanders is a far left candidate. He is a self described and proud socialist. Socialism is not the political center.

If you are an extreme left wing communist looking at Bernie Sanders he’s to the right of you, but you are both still pretty far left on the political spectrum.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Can you believe that these AirHead Snappers… their VOTE actually writes Bills into Laws.

The next 2 years will be the least productive two years American politics has ever seen. They really aren’t going to be doing much. We just had a 6 billion dollar shut down arguing over 5.7 billion going towards a wall…

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I think if the Left continues to get out of hand, the right should organize civil disobedience and simply en masse refuse to obey the laws the left passes.

Sort of like a labor union going on strike, but it would be across all industries and all type of jobs. Shut the whole damn country down.

The right should organize, and go Galt. Refuse to obey, and if they left resorts to violence, then the right should fire a few hundred million rounds until there is no more left that is left. Go house-to-house if they have to.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

When one thinks about it… the Federal government should NOT be so huge and have so much power that it matters much who controls it.

Absolutely true, but we are so far off of what the Federal government should look like, it’s really not a part of the conversation.

Gravel Pit wrote:

narwhal wrote:
For claiming that we’d be at war with N. Korea if wasn’t elected president.

That part was true, no matter how many people hated to hear that, it was the goddamn truth. Hillary dude…

It can’t be true by definition since we do not know exactly what would have happened if Trump wasn’t President. I think it’s safe to say that N Korea would have tested Hilary, as they test every new President, and she would not have handled it as well, but I can’t say we’d be at war with N. Korea. The fact that N Korea didn’t go to war when Obama was President, and has nothing to gain by attacking us, makes me think they are mostly hot air, as they’ve always been.

Ok. Then do it.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

she would not have handled it as well,

I understand that it’s bets-off about what “could” or “would” have happened. We don’t live in a universe where Hillary won but you said that right, she would have handled it poorly. And judging from her pompous attitude and bloody fingerprints in previous foreign affairs… it’s not unthinkable she’d of done something (with military force) the Kim Jon Un would have retaliated with his own military, and we’d be in a hot war. We’re talking about Hillary bro…Benghazi!

Hell, if not the North Koreans, we could be in a hot war with Russia or perhaps Iran… All bets are off when a vagina finally has the launch codes bro. When ultimate power rests in a woman’s lap, CAPRICE happens and men die.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

“No one has benefited more from our thriving economy than women, who have filled 58% of the newly created jobs last year.”

Of course the women react to THAT.

I’m not necessarily happy about this statistic, because all I imagine is how easy it is for women to get a job compared to men, what with Affirmative Action and all.

It’s gotten to the point that I hear the word “women” and cringe because there’s always some victim mentality or some form of “oppression” behind it, and that privilege will follow whatever comes next.

EDIT: He also mentions how it’s been a century since women were given the “right to vote” (minus responsibilities, of course) and more women serving in congress than ever before. That’s NOT a good thing…

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

“No one has benefited more from our thriving economy than women, who have filled 58% of the newly created jobs last year.”

Of course the women react to THAT.

I’m not necessarily happy about this statistic, because all I imagine is how easy it is for women to get a job compared to men, what with Affirmative Action and all.

It could tell you:

1. That 60% of all college students are now women, so the number is right in line.
2. That the participation rate is up, which could mean that there were a ton of women sitting on the sidelines no working while their husbank was, and they are now rejoining the workforce.
3. That the men are more loyal to their employer and so there are more women jumping from job to job.

It could tell you a lot of things. But since there’s no context to the statistic it doesn’t really tell you jack s~~~. But it’s more women than men so the women all stand and cheer.

Order the good wine

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

Beer wrote:

Gravel Pit wrote:

Can you believe that these AirHead Snappers… their VOTE actually writes Bills into Laws.

The next 2 years will be the least productive two years American politics has ever seen. They really aren’t going to be doing much. We just had a 6 billion dollar shut down arguing over 5.7 billion going towards a wall…

Hopefully they cannot pass any new spending legislation and won’t be able to grow government.

Maybe divided government and gridlock is beautiful?

Naw, they’ll cooperate to grow government.

[Anonymous 14]

Meanwhile, your constitutional rights continue to be undermined…

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