Sometimes I crave it…

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

DarkRyu wrote:

I’m not here to judge, it’s just…..too weird for me.

I’d never get one either, but it’s no more “creepy” than f~~~ing a fleshlight. Either way, it’s a funny way to make a point. Ha.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I haven’t had sex in 16 years. I had plenty of chances but I just couldn’t be bothered. I do get sexual urges that’s about it. It’s in my nervous system not wanting a serious girlfriend.

It goes in waves and it gets smaller and smaller. I still dreams of finding that woman who would support my lifestyle but it’s never going to happen. It’s only a chemical addiction.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[RoyDalParticipant]

It crave it. The last time I gave in to those cravings involved lots of antibiotics! It is not worth it. Do not give in to something just because you want it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

OK I do not comment often; not like some on this site.
I only do it when I can help.

So you are a human and affection from time-to-time is needed; nothing to be ashamed of having.

How to get this from my view. Get something like a fleashlight; and a woman. Now here is the funny part. Tell the woman that you do not want sex but rather want to only cuddle; and in a moment in private use the fleashlight and sleep with her. Yes that is right only sleep. When she knows that you will not put-out, because you told her you are not looking for sex; and in secret that is what she wants “sex”; she will leave you. Thus, you have fulfilled your need for human contact but not in the position of having a new girl friend.
I do this all of the time.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Your subconscious needs time to catch up with your conscious.
Eventually you will stop craving it.
Hell one day you’ll be sitting somewhere one will pass you and the only thing you’ll be thinking is
“man it smells like s~~~ from somewhere”.

[clint englandParticipant 341]

This is what i love about this site. You think you’re the only one experiencing something but you find the comforting fact that there are many other guys going through the same as you.

I’m very much the same in that i find i crave a loving women in my life but i’m a pragmatist and i realize as others have said this isn’t going to happen. I must admit i did go through many periods when i discovered just how cold hearted women are that i just didn’t see the point in anything. Now i feel chilled and happy.

I’m such a soppy sod that one of my fave movies is Vanilla Sky with Tom Cruise, Penolope Cruz or Sophia as she is called in that film when he is in his dream life is what i would love in a women, hot, loving, kind and loyal.

Although the film is a love story, it apitimizes the fickleness of a women. Sure Cruise’s character is no saint but the love story ends in his real life when he is disfigured in a car accident and Sophia (cruz) can’t accept him any more. It’s a pretty red pill movie that raises questions about if we could live most of our lives in a simulation, would we? etc.

I have watched the ending of that movie hundreds of times because i find it so moving.

But lets just say for arguments sake cruise’s character doesn’t get disfigured and they got together? What then? Well then you could confidently say that within a few short years they would grow bored of each other and like as not have had affairs, kids, divorced or whatever the f~~~.

This is how it goes most of the time as we all know. Yes i crave a great women but i also think it would be cool if Santa Claus existed.

The point i’m making is there are more pro’s than con’s to being a free man. Sure i have times i’d love to kiss and cuddle a loving women but i accept whatever i have in life, it’s never as good as we build it up to be in our minds.

Life is good and there are always escorts, even with those i find it hit and miss but i notice if get a good one who gives a genuine ‘girlfriend experience’ it can be quite magical. Just don’t fall in love, because you’re forgotten about the instant you walk out the door from her.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

You were trained to want that.

Training is for something ***you want*** to get better at: job skills training, weight training, etc.

Conditioning is for something ***someone else*** wants you to want.

[Anonymous 3]

MattNYC wrote:

Training is for something ***you want*** to get better at: job skills training, weight training, etc.

Conditioning is for something ***someone else*** wants you to want.

And instinctive needs is something nature gives you.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

The cravings of going to sleep with a woman in my arms. Her soft warm body pressed against mine. I smell her hair, cup my hands around her breasts, press my crotch against her bottom…

Yeah. I know that feeling. I f~~~ing miss it too.

But on the bright side of staying single,

+++ Women are f~~~ing obnoxiously selfish with blankets
+++ You get a lot better sleep
++ Temptation to take a day off is much less
++ Full bed to yourself
++ No one’s gonna try to keep you up and talk until 1 in the morning
+ You get to go to bed when you want to without feeling guilty of someone else’s feelings
+ Morning routine is usually much faster without her bulls~~~(I had to drive my ex home every single day, adding a good 30 minutes to my routine)
+ Your breathe can be as smelly as you want it, or you don’t have to deal with hers
+ Most fights happen right before bed, and it f~~~s up your sleep

Brother, we need to stick together.

[FreedomParticipant 295]

You clearly have your head on straight, you are just dealing with overwhelming desire. Obviously, this desire is making you suffer. That’s what desire does. When you satiate the desire (even with an actual woman), it is only temporarily gone. Then it comes back, just as strong as ever.

Many posts have suggested ways to sate the desire. Pillows, prostitutes, I didn’t see a suggestion for a Fleshlight or a RealDoll but maybe that is just assumed. These will give you an outlet that can help take the edge off, but they won’t address the root cause.

Your desire is rooted in instinct, sure, but it can be amplified by stress and anxiety. Get control of that, and your desire will naturally work itself out, and will naturally lose its power over you.

Conquer stress/anxiety by:

1) meditate. every day.
2) exercize, especially cardio, at least thrice a week.
3) Watch yourself throughout the day. Pause frequently and mentally scan your body, especially abdomen, shoulder, fists, for muscle tension. Force them to relax.
4) Pay attention to how you talk to yourself (in your mind and out loud). If you reinforce social messages (alone means loser, companionship is the only way to be happy, i wish she were with me) or just stressful responses to whatever is happening (this is a threat, i have to hurry and do this, i will fail if it is less than perfect), you will amplify the stress which will ultimately amplify your desires, including sexual desire. Replace that inner dialogue with honest words of encouragement, that you would give to a friend (I am doing my best. I am ok right now. I can handle this. There is enough time. This doesn’t need to be perfect). This is “cognitive behavioral training” and it works.

When meditating, you can “zen out” if you are into that, but mindfulness meditation works better for calming desire. You just mentally feel your body and especially feel the desire, and stay with it. Don’t push it away; that makes it stronger. Allow it and feel it fully, and keep doing this for a good half hour straight every day (or multiple times a day). If it transforms into fear or anger or any unpleasant emotion; don’t try to explain to yourself why you don’t need to feel that way. Just feel it as deeply as you can. This allows the emotional tension to work itself out. It flares up a bit at first, then it naturally just fades out (if you stick with the practice) and is replaced by deep peace and a calm contentedness.

Your mind needs maintenance just like your body. This is how you stay healthy and reclaim your freedom.

It is wise to fear dangerous commitments.

[SubtilitasParticipant 101]

Nerevar wrote:

It’s not that I want to have a girlfriend, it’s just that I want to have a woman in bed with me, to feel her body, to breathe her scents, to kiss her… goddammit.

And that’s perfectly fine, I think. You don’t want her validation, you just want her affection, which goes fine with being a MGHOW in my opinion. MGTOW are not a sect that tells you what’s allowed to do and what’s forbidden. We would reduce MGTOW to absurdity if we’d make them that way. Suppressing (this kind of) desires inevitably causes problems, which is one reason, I suppose, that you have decided to go your own way as a man in feminist-infected society. As long as you are not getting consumed by the woman lying in bed with you and you are still going the way you’ve chosen and feel at peace with, everything should be okay. So let me claim adventurously: You can receive a woman’s affection and still be a man going his own way. What kind of woman that would be… well, that’s another question.

[Anonymous 22]

The_Young wrote:

The cravings of going to sleep with a woman in my arms. Her soft warm body pressed against mine. I smell her hair, cup my hands around her breasts, press my crotch against her bottom…

Yeah. I know that feeling. I f~~~ing miss it too.

But on the bright side of staying single,

+++ Women are f~~~ing obnoxiously selfish with blankets
+++ You get a lot better sleep
++ Temptation to take a day off is much less
++ Full bed to yourself
++ No one’s gonna try to keep you up and talk until 1 in the morning
+ You get to go to bed when you want to without feeling guilty of someone else’s feelings
+ Morning routine is usually much faster without her bulls~~~(I had to drive my ex home every single day, adding a good 30 minutes to my routine)
+ Your breathe can be as smelly as you want it, or you don’t have to deal with hers
+ Most fights happen right before bed, and it f~~~s up your sleep

And an additional + No smell of fish in the bedroom.

[Mr_OptionsParticipant 298]

Man if this post didn’t come up at the right time for me? Being 2 months out from my last long term relations~~~. I was feeling these same exact urges to have a female next to me in my bed recently. I even was on one of those GFE websites actually looking for “companionship”. My brothers, reading all theses posts, I clicked off that website and refocused on just me. Remembering what I’ve learned from this site. It is very hard to contain these lizard brain urges when you do not have a women around you. Feeling better now. Did some yard work today, picked up my favorite cigars and beer and all is well now. Thanks to all that posted here and especially to the OP for starting this post. Brother, you are not alone in these urges and thoughts.

A man without a woman is like a fish without a hook.

[STORMParticipant 738]

Nerevar, here is something you may want to try. What you have posted here lets me know you have the ability to daydream. When you find yourself thinking about these temptations, come up with a new scenario inside your mind. Think of something you are currently interested in. And go wild with your imagination. For example, if you were into yachts, think what kind of yacht you would get if you could have any yacht on earth, what size would it be ? where would you take it ? Imagine yourself there.

Another thing i find useful is white noise clips on youtube, look up airplane white noise on youtube, put some headphones on, drift away inside your mind.

In other words, divert your imagination and desires to a new subject.

If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.

[STORMParticipant 738]

This is something i learned back when i would lay down and imagine a beauty cuddled up with. I started making the conscious choice to switch daydreaming subjects, i would daydream i was in an underground complex by myself surrounded by my favorite things. Just crazy bizarre things … But i learned that rather than trying to stop my imagination and desires, i could simply redirect them to another genre of desires and imagination.

If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.

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