Sometimes I crave it…

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

The cravings of going to sleep with a woman in my arms. Her soft warm body pressed against mine. I smell her hair, cup my hands around her breasts, press my crotch against her bottom… brothers, I haven’t had sex, or been intimate with a woman for more than 5 years now and I sometimes find myself craving for abovementioned situation.

It’s not that I want to have a girlfriend, it’s just that I want to have a woman in bed with me, to feel her body, to breathe her scents, to kiss her… goddammit.

I normally just start up a porn vid when I feel like this, rub one out and remember why it’s so good to be alone, but the simple craving for affection sometimes get to me. How do you, brothers, get over those feelings when/if they strike at you?

I’d almost call my medical condition a blessing, as the slighest sound would startle (and honestly scare) me to death when I’m in bed, THIS close to falling asleep, and hear some chick turn around in my bed where I expect to be alone… but the mere thought of having one in my arms tugs at my heart (and my c~~~).

I need your help and wisdom.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

You were trained to want that.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

You were trained to want that.

I know, and I fight that primal urge, been fighting it for years now, but I need the wisdom to be, and stay, above those primitive urges.

Rubbing one out feels good for a few minutes and I don’t give a s~~~ about anything female-related for a couple of hours, but it just sometimes hits me, and I need the best, harshest truth on how to deal with that and how to be and stay better than the reptilian part of my brain.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[WallyParticipant]

The craving is strong, I understand, been 10 years for me and I won’t lie to you if the opprotunity to sleep with a beautiful women presents itself I would be tempted. However, the possibility of STDs and pregnancy out ways the benefits for me. You could get an escort but somehow from reading your post you want some feelings involved and not just the sex. There is no reason not to date, but you must be careful.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

If you wanna f~~~ women, f~~~ women. Just follow Tom Leykis’s advice when you do it. Especially in the western world.

As for me, I couldn’t give a f~~~ about sex. I’d rather just f~~~ a fleshlight a few times during the night and then go to bed. It’s better than wasting time and money on women who’ll just f~~~ you in the ass with our court system the longer you’re with them.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[experiencedParticipant]

Nerevar wrote:

The cravings of going to sleep with a woman in my arms. Her soft warm body pressed against mine. I smell her hair, cup my hands around her breasts, press my crotch against her bottom… brothers, I haven’t had sex, or been intimate with a woman for more than 5 years now and I sometimes find myself craving for abovementioned situation.

It’s not that I want to have a girlfriend, it’s just that I want to have a woman in bed with me, to feel her body, to breathe her scents, to kiss her… goddammit.

I normally just start up a porn vid when I feel like this, rub one out and remember why it’s so good to be alone, but the simple craving for affection sometimes get to me. How do you, brothers, get over those feelings when/if they strike at you?

I’d almost call my medical condition a blessing, as the slighest sound would startle (and honestly scare) me to death when I’m in bed, THIS close to falling asleep, and hear some chick turn around in my bed where I expect to be alone… but the mere thought of having one in my arms tugs at my heart (and my c~~~).

I need your help and wisdom.

Go to 1:20 or better yet all of this one:

Men give. Women take. One of the hardest lessons for me on this green earth is that women now have unbelievable power to destroy men. Unbelievable power.
I’ve heard that with 3 lawyers on each side, an airtight pre-nuptial can be achieved proving that she was in her right mind, was under no pressure, no duress etc…. but IMO there are just too many lawyers out there who would fight it for her, and win, provided they get enough of the spoils of destroying a man.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22574]

Wanting to be touched by another human being is not the same was wanting to have sex. It is natural to crave affectionate touching from another human being. It can be as simple as a kind handshake or gentle hug. That does not mean wanting sex. That just means wanting to be touched.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

If you want to snuggle. Use a pillow.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

For this sort of thing, I would order it like Pizza. Pick up the phone and dial 1 800 CRA-VING and ask for “the girlfriend experience”. It’s better than a real girlfriend. Pick your whore. Insist that she is FRIENDLY, and be clear that “the f~~~ing” is not the point.

I know the difference between wanting to kiss a woman and needing to bang. My genuine desire to kiss a woman and be intimate with her isn’t up to ME. It’s up to HER. And if she’s not going to ignite that fire, I don’t miss it.

Even when it exists… it isn’t REAL. It’s almost like asking to believe in Santa for a day or two, because you haven’t experienced “the magic of Christmas” since you were a kid.

But do you really want to go there? It’s hocus pocus, and the only reason it was *SO NICE* and magical was because you didn’t know any better.

Nerevar wrote:

How do you, brothers, get over those feelings when/if they strike at you?

You’re romanticizing it when you don’t need to.
You will never find solace in the bosom of a female.

Personally, I get more satisfaction knowing THAT than I ever will about cuddling up to her and thinking “gosh this is it”. Because I know it’s just a hallucination. I have no desire to hallucinate.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AttonParticipant]

It’s your biology it’s not simple to suppress or to control. But it is possible to do I’ve done it.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 3]

Nerevar wrote:

How do you, brothers, get over those feelings when/if they strike at you?

Everyone is different and has a different path in life. But here is my take on it.

When I was young and innocent I found about my own sexual body in incremental experiences. Every single first time was the best thing ever, only to become normal after some time. I needed more and different.

I learned this lesson early in life. Whatever you get sexually is not enough, you always want something else that you dont have, and it promises to be the best thing ever. It is a journey down the drain, into ever more depraved acts.

There is no end, there is no permanent satisfaction. Only the dissatisfaction of losing the appreciation for simple and normal things.

This knowledge prevented me from decaying.

Now, after a marriage of 20 plus years, I do have a wife in my bed. I can have those things you and I crave, like any normal man craves. It is called companionship, and we men consummate it with sexual connection. Did you know that? Our need for sex is not really for the physical thing, but an need for emotional connection?

But I have seen to much, and instead I spend many nights awake (like now) just plotting my escape.

Do you know what I have seen? I have seen my integrity, I have seen what I want and what I dont want.

I want a woman that wants me.

I dont want a woman that “allows me” to do this or that. I dont want a woman that does not appreciate me. I dont want a woman that does not respect me. I dont want a woman that constantly uses me. I dont want a woman that does not listen to me.

So, even if she is available I have ZERO interest. It feels like I a betraying myself, like a beaten dog liking his masters boots. I totally give up initiating anything.

So, put your needs in perspective. Sex, love, intimacy. In the end they are not worth our integrity.

The perspective is that we always think it is wonderful of what we dont have, and appreciate very little of what we do have. Yet many others think little of that very thing we want, and dream about what we do not value.

That is the greatest lesson: we humans are always desiring something else.

Another thing I learned about desire: it is not a good thing.
When we desire we are unhappy, and we strive to get the object of our desire. When we get it we become happy, not for the thing itself (if that was the case the happiness would be permanent), but because for a moment we no longer desire anything.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

A pillow is not a good as a female, but it will never divorce rape you.

A $10 dollar pillow or $2k a month in life time alimony.

You chose.

If you want contact, get a massage . For 60 bucks a females will rub all over you.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

I do not think that it is gonna help if you would actually cuddle with a woman all of a sudden because your cravings for intimacy would only be stronger in the future since doing it now would really deepen the hooks for your desire to be intimate in general. It’s like doing a bad habit as soon as you stop doing this bad habit after so many years, but the only difference is that this time you are deep in this bad habit again. Anyways, just tough it out, because lack of intimacy now would avoid a lot of pain later.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

What you are feeling is your natural instinct to protect and reproduce. This is one of the pitfalls of a civilized society. The selection process becomes more complicated. To make you feel better, look at this link:

http://www.wikihow.com/Understand-Love-As-a-Chemical-Reaction

Once you understand why your body is reacting like this, then it makes it easier to say this won’t work for me in this environment. I can’t speak for you, but i rationalize this way.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Women absolutely repulse me so I don’t get these desires anymore. I feel for you man, I really do. Have you ever taken a look at the furry fandom? Once your sexuality evolves past the vanilla, you realize that a “real” woman will never be able to satisfy you, so those desires for “real” women go away. I can’t speak from personal experience, but a lot of my online friends have a “waifu.” Honestly it sounds really weird to me, but they say that it helps to satisfy the emotional needs of a relationship beyond just porn.

I’ve personally never found the need for something like that as it’s just sexual with me, but it helps a lot of guys to get into that sorta thing. Just Google “waifu” and do some research. It is weird, but whatever helps man. You should experiment more. To be honest, I haven’t looked at “real” porn in over 5 years. “Real” porn is stale, boring, same old, same old BS. I personally enjoy erotic fiction because it just seems more real to me and there’s an emotional connection between the characters.

To be honest, I desire cuddling a “real” woman in bed as much as I desire cuddling a wet pickle. Maybe less.

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

You wouldn’t be human if you didn’t have those feelings. This is the reason most men fall for the trap this site is intended to guard against. Hell, I was, and still am the biggest romantic you’d ever meet. The power ballads move me. The love story (which is a bigger fabrication than the easter bunny) gets me. I lay there nights thinking about it.
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But then I go to my logical side. I start counting my blessings. I decide what I’m doing on my day off. Nobody is there to tell me I’m stupid, that my hobbies are a waste of time, to bitch at me for their unfulfilled dreams etc. I think about all the friends and family I’ve lost to women. The ones who no longer smile. The ones who no longer pursue their interests and dreams. The ones that cause me guilt as I’m sharing my life’s success, knowing full well they’ll never have my freedom to express myself, dream, or live.
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Then I picture what would happen if I f~~~ it all up. All that I’ve saved could be blown through in less than a year. She’d want a house, then a vehicle, then a bigger house, and a bigger vehicle, and another kid. Your house fills up with s~~~, your stuff no longer fits in the garage. You need to sell your (insert garage toy) because she needs room for totes. You need to get your ass outta bed to mow the lawn with some piece of s~~~ mower you bought at walmart because she didn’t think you needed a real mower to just cut the “damn lawn.”
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You wanna go fishing? When the hell are you going to move that furniture up from the basement. I need those shelves hung in the closet. You promised me we’d paint that room. We have to go see my parents. You gotta help my sister move. Etc etc etc. You’re the last one on the list buddy.
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Now picture this. The day comes that you’ve finally been completely used up, heart, mind, and spirit. She wakes you up and says, “I want a divorce.”
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Imagine shooting 50 bundles of $100 bills out the end of your pecker. Imagine you were cuddling with 4 hundred ounce bars of gold and they were ripped from your arms. Imagine you were standing there for a hug and she reaches down your throat and grabs your b~~~~ and rips them out thru your mouth.
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It’s safer to get a cat.
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I hope and pray nobody has to see this day in their lifetime.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

I stopped craving it when got fed up hearing stories about men going
homeless after a divorce!

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

A pillow is not a good as a female, but it will never divorce rape you.

Plus, you can have these badass pillows! Ha.

The dude with the waifu pillow gets it! Hahaha.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

I know how you’re feeling.
TFM describes it perfectly in this video:

The male sex drive does not comprise of the ‘banging’ alone. It comprises of a need for companionship and ‘cuddling’…. all these things release the feel-good dopamine hormone in your brain.

He tells us that we do not have to fight it, but we have to understand it. Understanding what happens, and how it can affect you, is more than enough for your reasonable brain to defeat your lizard brain. It worked for me, might work for you.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Anthony wrote:

Jan.Sobieski wrote:

A pillow is not a good as a female, but it will never divorce rape you.

Plus, you can have these badass pillows! Ha.

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The dude with the waifu pillow gets it! Hahaha.

Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. Creepy waifu stuff. I would personally never do something like that, and my online friends that have waifu’s probably don’t either. At least, I hope they don’t. In America a waifu is more like an emotional bond that you create with a fictional character and you masturbate to that character mostly. Frankly I find that too limiting and weird for my tastes. And as for how the Japanese do it……..that’s just unbelievably off putting. I’m not here to judge, it’s just…..too weird for me.

EDIT: And most of my friends are furries anyway, so their “waifu’s” aren’t human anime characters.

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