Societal Collapse: Getting away from YOU PEOPLE

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Fuuuuck Me…. Getting away from YOU PEOPLE is a lot harder than expected.

Went out looking at remote land and properties earlier this week with my Father. As some of you may know, I’m dead set on living way out in the mountains, in a cabin far away from the consumer whore lifestyle that has become a plague all around us.

I’m officially tapping out of the “rat race”. I’m officially out of f~~~s to give. I’m taking what I’ve got left from my divorce raping and time in the military, and I’m investing solely in myself.

If you’ve taken the Red Pill and fully embraced it’s depth of knowledge, you know that the Western World is a gigantic sinking ship. Women have manned the helm and have steered us right into the iceberg. Our society is collapsing, albeit slowly, as I type.

I have no job security. I have no idea where my meat comes from. Or my vegetables. Or my dairy. Or ANY of my food. It just shows up at the store, for me to buy with fiat (fake) currency. This is wholly unacceptable to me, especially now that I fully understand how the Federal Reserve works, fiat currency and our “two party” political system (LOL!!!)

F~~~ this candyland, socialist paradise BULLS~~~. Not on my back. Not anymore. I’m OUT!!! While there’s still a semblance of society left I’m going to learn the HARD lessons of living off the land. I’ve grown my own garden for two years, I’ve got the basics down there. I’m going to start on livestock with chickens at my new place. Goal is continual expansion, by the sweat of my own brow.

“Get Self Sufficient or Die Tryin'”.

I had a few places picked out from searching online, WAAAAY out there in the sticks. I’m talking about a 30 minute drive AFTER you hit the gravel/dirt road, in a place where people KNOW it’s waaaaay out there in the mountains.

We drove up steep mountain passes, passed steep cliffs where the road gave way to 500 foot drops, and passed numerous rebel flags flying high.

Guess what I found? F~~~ING Neighbors. Neighbors EVERYWHERE. I couldn’t find a goddamned property without another cluster of homes within 200 yards. Everywhere I looked, someone had the same idea and had already staked their claim not a stone throws distance away.

I’m in no rush to purchase my homesteading property. There are SO MANY variables to consider (access to water, unrestricted land, erosion, growing season, water potency, known pollutants, meth heads, closeby developments who will later vote to turn said land into RESTRICTED property… etc.)

But F~~~… this is going to be harder than I expected. I was only searching for 2-5 acres of useable land for my cabin and homestead. But for the remoteness of what I want, I’m already having to consider around 20+ acres, just to get a good standoff distance from everyone else.

Here’s a harsh truth for you “preppers” out there: Unless your in the Montana’s or the Dakota’s, there’s no more places to “Bug Out” to.

I used to have that mentality: Oh, I’ll “bug out” to the woods/wilderness when SHTF…. HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!

Mother F~~~er, I just spent two days driving through the “wilderness”… it’s already over populated. I’m talking about dueling banjo’s “OUT THERE”. Yep. Seats taken. FYI, you come up to these hills after a societal collapse, YOU WILL DIE.

These people are totally self sufficient, should a societal collapse happen. They WILL violently defend what’s rightfully theirs, as I will once I join them.

If your seriously concerned about a SHTF scenario, get moving NOW.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6408]

I live in the upper midwest surrounded by over 200 Amish farms. The reason I write this is because I do have neighbors .. but they are good neighbors and they help me and I help them and we get along. I know what you mean about people everywhere so I’ve found I can tolerate neighbors as long as they are like this.

They have no electricity, no telephones or tv and no vehicles other than buggies and steel wheeled wagons drawn by horses. They do have stationary gas engines to run their equipment and they also use modern chain saws for logging. They hire logging trucks and drivers when needed to transport the lumber.

They close down everything on Sundays for their day long Church activities. They also take care of each other’s expenses without health insurance, no SS Taxes or medicare since they opted out and cut costs in many other ways. They do have SS numbers which they get when they formally join the Amish Church. The men wear homemade clothes and the women wear loose conservative garb including bonnets in public.

The Mennonites who live around here are similar in some ways .. but, they drive and own vehicles, have phones and electricity. They don’t have TV and live like the Amish in lots of ways such as shutting everything down on Sundays. Mennonite guys dress very conservatively, usually dark clothes and light shirts .. but a little more modern than the Amish. The women wear long dresses and keep their hair pinned up.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Same here trying to make money fast to go off the grid in the caribean.

Thats why i say bitcoin and s~~~ could make life for guys like us harder.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 42]

F~~~ yea! Wing it! Just today I was watching more methods to slaughtering turkeys! I found out terrorizing them during slaughter spoils the meat, this guy was good and knew his way around a bird from starting just like you and I!

Just do it! I,m on my 1st decade of growing vegetables and 2nd with fruit trees! I defer allot of the costs of food this way plus it’s much more nutritious and productive when you take feeding them seriously! I make my own high purity chemical compound fertilizer, this year I’m amending it with organics to enrich the soil. Wood heat is also a priority over heating oil. I burn @ above 85% efficiency using the downdraft method otherwise a rocket stove, it also burns plastic and used motoroil efficiently.

Look it up on U-Tube, it’s perfect for remote locations and burns everything including cow patties if that’s you only fuel source!

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

You’ll want neighbors. Anything happens to you out there and you’re dead. I have a friend who lives out in middle of nowhere and he almost died due to the most basic injury. He almost passed out, and had he he would have died… Alone… The bugs would be still feeding on him right now before anyone came across his property.

You want some sort of neighbor

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

GoodKid44 wrote:

You’ll want neighbors. Anything happens to you out there and you’re dead. I have a friend who lives out in middle of nowhere and he almost died due to the most basic injury. He almost passed out, and had he he would have died… Alone… The bugs would be still feeding on him right now before anyone came across his property.

You want some sort of neighbor

Definitely a good way to die.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[DocParticipant]

Substitute neighbours for a satellite phone.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

Seems like you are complaining about a non-problem as there is lots of open spaces and free land but you have to go to that land it isn’t going to come to you. Maybe I am biased being a Canadian and living just 20KMS from N. Dakota but seriously I don’t know where you are looking.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22531]

Before you guys go all in. A few thoughts.

Not all collapses are equal. If the U.S. federal government collapsed tomorrow, the U.S. society would still continue because most of the basic services are handled through state and local governments.

The state governments would issue their own currencies. Times would be rough. Likely a few welfare riots in some places. But, life would go on.

Now, if there was a collapse due to global nuclear war and resulting nuclear winter. Well, I do know about all of you, but I would not want to survive the nuclear bombs being dropped.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Getting AWAY from People is a state of mind.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 14]

I have had these thoughts as well Nomadic, and for many of the same reasons. I am likely going to go for a middle of the road option. I think I am going to move where there are less people, and I would like my place to be off the grid with a garden to grow many fruits and veggies. I also like the idea of not being too far away from a farmers market if I ever wanted to go buy from local growers, or maybe even sell some stuff one day as well.

I get where you are coming from though, I have also thought about straight up moving to Alaska, like out in the sticks Alaska… What Awakened says is true as well, if you just mentally insulate yourself from other people’s bulls~~~ it can go a long way.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

if you just mentally insulate yourself from other people’s bulls~~~ it can go a long way.

I do that 5 days a week at my mangina & Tuna infested office.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 14]

It’sallbs wrote:

I do that 5 days a week at my mangina & Tuna infested office.

I bet. I wish hypnotism worked like in Office Space…

[Anonymous 1]

NomadicExpat wrote:

Here’s a harsh truth for you “preppers” out there: Unless your in the Montana’s or the Dakota’s, there’s no more places to “Bug Out” to.

That is the conclusion I have come to as well. I’m skeptical that you can Homestead in todays day and age. Where can you go that “Big Brother” cannot see you?

I am still hoping that one day I can do it. I would love to go off grid and just live off the land. That is the path to self fulfillment and contentment. I really can’t think of a better way to live than that.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Homesteading is definitely doable, now more than ever with infinite amounts of technical data at your fingertips and tech to assist.

The problem is KEEPING it once you’ve bought it. There are almost countless ways local, state and federal governments can repossess your land, even AFTER you’ve paid for it in full.

That’s why I’m adamant about being waaaay out there. I can get cheaper land closer to populate seed areas, but that’s because the owners had the same idea 20 years ago and now their land is becoming restricted (not allowed to have livestock, cant shoot firearms on property, cant collect rain water, etc.)

That’s what ALWAYS happens. The Libtards move in next door, then get offended by the locals and decide to stir up politicians to protect their snowflake feelings.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

I would live here if I could….

[OgreParticipant 5863]

I’m with you, only in the exact opposite direction.

The desert kills with with heat during the Summer and cold during the Winter. Control water and you become God-like.

I could be at ground zero tomorrow and I may die in the blast, but if I survive I’ll find my way to my chosen desolate home. My own waste will make the soil there thrive.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Ogre wrote:

I’m with you, only in the exact opposite direction.

The desert kills with with heat during the Summer and cold during the Winter. Control water and you become God-like.

I could be at ground zero tomorrow and I may die in the blast, but if I survive I’ll find my way to my chosen desolate home. My own waste will make the soil there thrive.

Interesting…. So your running to the desert? Hard Core bro!

[RafaelParticipant 115]

I share a lot of your thinking, NomadicExpat.

Like you said, there are so many variables to consider when we talk about SHTF and living Off Grid, it’s hard to do the perfect choice. I want do to it at some point too, live off grid at the outside border of the system until(it will) SHTF, and when it happens, we will not suffer and die like a pig like the other 50% of the population. The way our society lives today will not sustain for much longer. I am reading a lot about permaculture, growing your own food, livestock, survival and the list goes on. My two great concerns now are the right to have a gun in my country, and the money to buy the right place to do all these.

Don't look back, you're not going that way.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Permaculture and Aquaponics are great systems to learn and implement.

The biggest recommendation I keep seeing from those with MUCH more experience than I is to start NOW.

Once a collapse happens, it’s already too late. Living off the land is sadly almost a lost art, in the modern era.

Our ancestors who did it well were raised doing household farm chores. By the time they were adults, upkeep on a homestead was second nature.

Crops must be planted at precisely the right time, depending on precisely where you are located for a good harvest. Everything in nature will continuously try and attack your crops as they ripen, from Deer to rabbits, insects to microbial parasites.

Learning how to curb these threats is not easy. This is a skillset that must be earned with hard work and diligence. I want to get started ASAP, but financing and finding the right plot of land is certainly a challenge.

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