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So I’m a pretty decent MGTOW (about two months) and let me preface this by saying I don’t doubt I may need therapy. So right to the point I have lingering nice guy syndrome. I have sightly controlled issues with seeking of approval, I tend to fixate on things for far too long and have some paranoid leanings in that I have a tendency to think things are about me even when they aren’t. Once you realize this how can one combat it?
I refuse to the uttermost taking any psychoactive drugs and fear that any therapist I find is going to be a tradcon or a blue pill heller who will just invalidate my thoughts and feelings.
Has anyone had any luck with this? Does anyone have any suggestions? I will gladly share more in a later post if it becomes necessary but I didn’t want to food you guys with all my crap right off the bat.
Anyway thoughts? Suggestions?
Don’t worry, you sound like you have your s~~~ together and know your weaknesses. That is very very important.
Mgtow for 2 months is still a short while and you will become easier with it as time passes. Took me 8 months.
Give it more time before you use a ‘head monkey’. Come here and talk for a while.
I don’t hate wo-men, I just don’t trust them. Like a snake, you can admire them but wouldn’t want one in your bed.
The red pill can take a while to start working fully.
Keep your faith in yourself. Don’t push to hard and just ease in to this.
Good luck … we’re here for you ☺
Thank you sir, I’m gland for the support of my brothers its why I came here first. I know its not uncommon for a landslide to hit you post red pill. Realizing things like how the woman closest to you (your mother) totally did a massive number on you to f~~~ you over from the beginning and how you can just see it pile on from woman to woman through out your life and you find yourself at 36 having moments where you think they are always constantly plotting, lying and looking for a way to use you or gain an advantage.
I don’t think I’m broken. I believe that I understand the truth about the world. Women in today’s society have been conditioned to hate men. Furthermore, they are incapable of unconditional love for a man. On top of that, I am sexually attracted to women. Knowing that these three things are true has changed my perceptions and my decision making. I no longer look for what I know does not exist. The Unicorn is a myth. All I can do is live my life knowing the truth. The upshot is that I don’t give women the time of day…they hate me.
So be it.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
Anonymous42I have a tendency to think things are about me even when they aren’t.
You’re only being hypersensitive from mild to severe PTSD, we all have suffered from the toxic effects of deep seeded feminism, it’s inundated this society to the point that men have denied their natural roles, and abandoned these ruined women forever, this society is the problem, not your hypersensitivity, it’s natural for any animal to be hypersensitive after a traumatic and abusive experience. The good thing is you’re now aware of the subliminal abuse, sharpen your senses, DO NOT take these subliminal warnings you’re experiencing as being something amiss, they’re not, it’s a part of the awakening of you’re intellect over emotion, it’s a tearing process in your mind, ripping the deep seeded illusions that have been implanted in your head.
where you think they are always constantly plotting, lying and looking for a way to use you or gain an advantage.
BVC says it best, women have many more character defects than that of a man, coupled with decades of man hating subliminal messages encouraging this hatred. They have collectively poisoned this society and ruined the natural position of men, replacing it with the destructive emotions of women mandated by gynocentric law, and corrupt judicial order. MGTOW are the most psychologically stable of all men in this gynocentric and feminist invaded society. MGTOW restore justice and equality to this gynocentric and miserable universe. Feminism has brought us misery and destruction all around us, and to think they have men supporting their cause, fools, the lot of them! I’m hardcore MGHOW! I find absolutely no solace, comfort, or trust, in today’s feminist mandated society of mental madness.
MAN SMASHING ROUTINE!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MGTOW
You’re only being hypersensitive from mild to severe PTSD,
Well said tower, and man does society and women buck and attack like rabid weasels once they figure out you won’t play their game anymore.
So you’re MGTOW now but does that mean you’re broken, paranoid and woman hating?
No.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
I’m MGHOW for a week now, believe me, the sleepless nights have started. I am sticking to it though. I don’t hate women at all, I just don’t trust them either. I’ve got a great younger sister and a loving, supportive mother, so my attitude to women per say isn’t f~~~ed up. I just refuse to get embroiled in their attention seeking nonsense and I flat out refuse to ever move in with a woman or get married. F~~~ THAT.
Anonymous42Hey Crow, only a week! You’re spot on with your attitude! they’re like trying to handle a verminous snake, with your hands tied behind your back, while someone agitates the snake with a stick. I’m no longer bitten, nor do I suffer it’s toxic effects! Life became sweet again, all my bitterness at one time was instilled by women, they didn’t give a single f~~~ how bad they made me feel. The modern woman is a truly heartless and cold creature.
@Tower thanks buddy, I am finding it really hard but I’m not giving up, thanks to guys like you supporting us on here
Anonymous42The only thing now, see how far down rabbit hole goes. This whole thing about women and society being commingled and detrimental (TOXIC) to men, is relatively new in the history of man. Women use to serve men and stay with them for security; they no longer need us, beside what they can extract from us using their commingled alliance with the law.
The woman’s liberation movement set in motion the engrained hatred of men throughout society, Women have rejected and neglected us for our natural and instinctive purpose in this world (to maintain control over women with our logic) limiting their irrationality, this restraint has been abolished by feminists and governments they infiltrate, that’s why we have the c~~~ carousel, and MGTOW.
Another way to put it on a molecular level, lets say we have one electron all alone spinning around the nucleus on it’s own valiance (orbit), it’s kind of wobbly and unstable looking to hook up or bond with another (c~~~ carousel), along comes the MGTOW electron in the exact same orbit, but on the other side of the valance, invisible to the c~~~ron, and restoring balance to the universe. It’s scientific, it’s mathematical, it makes perfect sense. Don’t you see, we’re back in control simply by using our logic and powers of reasoning and understanding. We defeat all their feverish efforts that continue to degrade society, we’ve turned the table on these bitches and they don’t like it, but like the electron on the opposite end, they can’t do a damn thing about it. Mgtow 1 Feminism 0, the natural and proper order of things…..
We’re mantrons, next I’m sure some mghow somewhere is going to try some collider experiments, this is a whole new science. I’m still trying to feed a woman red pills, but sadly I feel this experiment is failing, but maybe it’s actually a success, furthermore validating that men are absolutely different than women.
becoming mgtow is tough, realizing everything around you is a lie is quite traumatizing, but really you just see the truth and it makes you different from everyone else thus leading to the am i wrong for being this way question. your not wrong whatsoever, its hard to put up with man but it gets easier, s~~~ ive shared the viewpoints of mgtow way before this site was made and only recently discovered people are finally realizing women do got it made and are oppressing us, im so glad more and more are seeing women for what they really are. and another thing i dont social network besides on here and on online gaming, i dont use facebook, twitter, instagram or snapchat and that is quite the achievement i think, no smart phone for me either, problem is everyone thinks im the weird one im the “broken” one, but i dont care im not an approval junkie, i like to hang out with my friends face to face and if they aren’t close they can text me on my flip phone, say what you will i dont give a s~~~ social network is not doing anyone any good and is detrimental to your health, people rarely hang out without looking at thier goddamn phones all day same in relations~~~s, f~~~ing kids have problems where they cant use the bathroom without a smart phone or tablet, and now it is an actual medical condition called phantom vibration syndrome where you feel your phone vibrate but it dosent, im not making this up. but damn my bad on the social networking and what not long winded i know, paranoid no you just see through the game they play man, and they all do or at least 99.9999999999% do. woman hating? no its just your not like the rest,your not a white knight or mangina like most men are thus they throw that insult out alot,because your not worshipping the almighty vagina.
with the social network thing just trying to make a connection to the feeling broken part
"He who lives with honor dies with honor."
As the saying says Ignorance is bliss.
Then you notice something is wrong.Things just arent quite what they seem to be.So your trying to figure it out and doing some research ans watch a few Barbarooosssa videos or what ever.
And you swallow some Red Pill.
And you wake up somewhere and dont know where you are and you are all dirty and the floor you are lying on is all dirty and roaches are running around.And the clothes you are wearing are rags.
And you are startled and you hear a voice saying “Aaa brother so you are awake now time to sit up ,just take it easy for a minute take this so you have some strength to stand up”
So he gives you a stale muffin and some diluted fruit juice.
And you see hes wearing rags too but hes just a bit cleaner.
He helps you to stand up and you look around and look out the window.The place looks like a roof leaky shack in some 3rd world s~~~hole.
And you look out the window and everything looks like a ghetto that was bombed out and burned down 30 years ago.Trash blowing around and people walking around acting like idiots.
The street looks real familiar but you cant place your finger on why just yet.Your host turns on the tv and you recognize actors and politicians and celebrities (some of them you usto like a lot) and you see that most of them have lying ass smirks of their faces.Or they have strings and wires and antennas coming in and out of them and they only seem to act or say anything as if on cue.
More surprises are yet to come.
“You host says come on outside for a bit.time for you to learn more.”
So you go outside and you happen to see a woman that you usto like but never got around to getting with her .She look a little ruff and she wearing a lot of knives and a large whistle hanging around her neck.You notice that for just a split second she looks you up and down like a piece of meat to be robbed stabbed and left for dead .She waves at you with an evil stare and you see she has blood on her hand.In shock you pretend not to notice.She walks on by.
You new friend tells you “Now you see what kind of a person she really is and dont expect any of them to be any different.You will see”
He continues “Dont feel bad ,thats the way most of them are,but you didnt see it before.You are very lucky she didnt stab you a long time ago and leave you on the curb to die.If one of them stabs you and you cant help yourself only by a miracle is anyone else going to help you .
You walk a little further.You say “Hey this is street 123 where the hell is the ABC building? I know where i am WTF .”
Your friend tells you “There is no ABC building ,there is no Shining Citadel ,its all a lie,this is the real world as it really is.Just like there is no Santa Clause or Easter Bunny or NAWALTs”
You see a man sitting on the curb mumbling incoherently to him self with an empty red pill bottle by his side.Your friend says.
“He will be ok soon but lets get him inside before it gets dark out.”
Now you know about all you need to know to for your journey.Truth is painful .The truth hurts.Women see men as a resource the same way we might see tools or a lap top or a car or a stock market investment.
99.999999% of women simply dont give one single f~~~ about men in general.This comes from human nature and feminism.Try to ask for equal funding for prostate cancer as breast cancer and they will call you a woman hater.Try to ask for DV shelters for men and they will call you a “F~~~ing man”
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
After suffering years of depression, a terrible breakup, and overall alienation from a vain and feminized society I have been going my own way for years. I don’t hate women, in fact I love them, but I just don’t trust them.
I feel that MGTOW has helped verbalize what I have been feeling for years and is the right counterbalance to today’s runaway feminism.
My sex/relationship life is my own business and not for any woman to judge or scrutinize.
I also want to say that the Fappening was a HUGE red pill moment for me. Women, especially celebrity women shouldn’t be worshipped like idols or “goddesses” like modern pop culture suggests.
Anonymous42she looks you up and down like a piece of meat to be robbed stabbed and left for dead .
@Wave, YEP! LOL, you described the true animal nature of feminism, their like wild cougars, with long fangs, and really sharp claws !
I found this poem through Spetsnaz, and I found it very helpful. Particularly with dealing with anger and resentment from being treated badly by women. Also, with establishing for myself a guideline for how to live. In the words of the TF2 Sniper, “Professionals have standards.” Here are mine:
If,
By Rudyard KiplingIf you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!I joined 2 weeks ago, it takes awhile, but you build confidence and define reality of your situation, I was recently divorced and what at a all time low, I found MGTOW and read more and more and began to understand things little by little and in two days my confident level jumped. I am not saying I am fully over it, but I can function and focus on myself. MGTOW is very helpful for the mind, I think it is more about fact about women rather than being sexist.
Do not get me wrong MGTOW gets some really scared individuals that just hate women, I do not hate women, I just did not understand them and this site continues to help me understand or define my reality. In my personal opinion I am sure there are good women out there, but it is a low number, society has began to feed women the image that they are all powerful and independent, not to mention the government backs them up on this.
So I’m a pretty decent MGTOW (about two months) and let me preface this by saying I don’t doubt I may need therapy. So right to the point I have lingering nice guy syndrome. I have sightly controlled issues with seeking of approval, I tend to fixate on things for far too long and have some paranoid leanings in that I have a tendency to think things are about me even when they aren’t. Once you realize this how can one combat it? I refuse to the uttermost taking any psychoactive drugs and fear that any therapist I find is going to be a tradcon or a blue pill heller who will just invalidate my thoughts and feelings. Has anyone had any luck with this? Does anyone have any suggestions? I will gladly share more in a later post if it becomes necessary but I didn’t want to food you guys with all my crap right off the bat. Anyway thoughts? Suggestions?
My view on those drugs the mental health industry subscribes is this: Did you get that way taking them? If not, then why does taking them fix the issue? This being said, if you have serious biochemical issues with your brain, you may need them. Here is some article on how mindfulness can be as effective as drugs:
http://news.yahoo.com/mindfulness-therapy-good-medication-chronic-depression-study-230759984.html
As for other things related, kick out the toxic and taker influences in your life, and try to get a grip on where you are heading. Add positive influences, rather than negative. Get control of your environment, and don’t worry as much about people. People are generally so self-absorbed, they aren’t thinking of you anyhow. There is a need to condition your mind to have different thoughts when things come up. And all this is way too long to go into here.
Another thing I would say is look into self-compassion, as opposed to self-esteem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-compassion
The nasty thing about this whole self-esteem teaching bit is that it drives you to compare yourself with others, and your emotional state is better. With self-compassion, you realize you need time to heal, and you can stop with absurdly high standards you can’t meet at this time. I consider those vane pride. You also can be more able to go your own way, and make your own way acceptable to you, and not inane social norms that make you feel horrible.
By the way, there are forces at good, but the decay of the world is out to get you and work against you. Just realize this, but also it may be helpful to think it is that with everyone also, and is pretty mindless. I do think paranoia can be a way for one to get validation, as one feels they are significant, because they seek meaning. Lack of meaning in life can cause much harm.
Take what I said that is useful and shred the rest.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I suggest you read this article, RooshV a PUA wrote this, he claims to have slept and dated with thousands of women and only found less than 20 women to be ideal for traditional dating relationship. We are talking about small minority of less than 1% of women might be worth marrying. So in reality it’s virtually impossible to find a good woman to marry or have a serious relationship with.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
We all have the lingering nice guy thing. Unless we don’t. I wonder almost daily, “Should I really hold the door for her?” It’s often a yes anyway. That’s the extent of the niceness I show, because I know through sheer numbers that some women will hold the door for me. It’s not kindness, it’s statistics. Before I hear a bunch of guys call white-knight bs, I count, and the random women who have held the door for me is about the same as the times I’ve held the door for them. I only do it if I was already at the door and they were 5 or fewer steps.
You may be wondering at this point what the f~~~ I’m rambling about. I do nice things because reasons. If she asked for any other kind of help, the answer would be a simple “F~~~ OFF.” Be nice to women you know you will never talk to or possibly even see again. It deters the ones you don’t know. If you want psychology though, I think you know 3 people who are more than happy to act like they’re experts to help you, and they’re all mgtow. The zombies can stay in their blue-hued hell. They can choke on their pills as we step past their cold brain-dead corpses, leaving them behind for the better world absent of their bulls~~~.
Confused? I’d be surprised if you weren’t.
"You can keep your soul, I don't want a cell-mate." - Them Crooked Vultures
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