So what now?

[Anonymous 3]

Workhard wrote:

I have hardly any friends I can hang out with, so aside from work there isn’t much to do

this is what the forum is for, we hang out with our Mgtow brothers all over the world.

[Anonymous 3]

Rhino, I totally agree with your reply. but I have a few comments.

Rhino wrote:

If you have to have a relationship with a new woman never invite her to your house always go to hers for the sex

Never have a relationship at all. It’s more safe to cuddle the pillow after fapping for porn. But anyway if you want to play with fire, record everything. At least, voice record and call record on the smartphone, journal, and keep all emails and chats. Ask her to say yes, because yes means yes law. These are the proof you did not rape her. (There is no due process in the western world in sexual cases, as many guys say here in the forum. You are better off to defend your own ass.)

Rhino wrote:

Don’t tell them your secrets, they use that against you to manipulate you.

Don’t tell any secrets to anyone regardless of gender or role in your life. Secrets are secrets. Not even in this forum, since it’s a public place.
Like, the same as you don’t tell people your passwords, do not tell strategic secrets as where exactly you hide your secret stash of money and computer backup and copies of documents if you have something like that. Also, your real-world identity is a secret. Do not link / use images from your own web page or social media profile, since it can be tracked back. Better to just describe things in a few words, or to upload a new photo to here.

Rhino wrote:

get her off all your social media

Have the email addresses or phone numbers of the friends. Meet and talk in real life next to a cup of coffee.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

Workhard wrote:

I guess I just need to feel like I’m not the asshole she made me out to be. I feel like deep down I’m not an asshole, that maybe she made me that way by being around her. But who can judge that?

Sure she made you out to be, women are blameless her view matters not she is gone, that you don’t know what to do is quite normal I was the same they suck your time so when you get it back it seems odd.

Rejoice in being free, it takes a while to realise you can do whatever you like , thats whatever.

Its some gift she has given you.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

Welcome.

Just so you know, it isn’t over until YOU make it over. If you keep yourself out there for her she will eventually try to monkeybranch back to you. She’ll be whipping the cum of Chad off her lips, both sets, before coming back, but she will if you give her the chance. I suggest you don’t give her the chance.

If she does try to come back, here is what I would do;

Step 1: Tell her to make reservations at that really expensive restaurant she always wanted to go to.

Step 2: Ten to twenty minutes before the reservation call to tell her you may be running late and to go ahead and get the table. (Do not text, always call)

Step 3: Twenty minutes after the said time, call again and state you are on your way. Ask her to order a bottle of expensive wine, appetizers, and get you the surf and turf, or whatever manly type expensive food is on the menu. Tell her to get whatever she wants.

Step 4: Five minutes later call to confirm she has made the order and tell her to start without you, especially if she has ordered appetizers. You are almost there. Work is hell.

Step 5: Don’t show up, block her number for exactly five days.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Workhard wrote:

I guess I just can’t believe how a person you were so close to for so long can treat you like utter s~~~ for no apparent reason. I have read so much on here about how women treat men and I’m thankful I didn’t get more involved than I did, but I still can’t believe how it happened to me. Maybe I’m still in shock over the whole situation.

Workhard wrote:

I guess I just need to feel like I’m not the asshole she made me out to be. I feel like deep down I’m not an asshole, that maybe she made me that way by being around her. But who can judge that?

This sounds pretty much the way I felt and the end of my first relationship with a half-crazy girl. On one hand I was angry on how badly she had treated me with all the lies, manipulation, and some suspicions that she slept around. On the other hand she tried to shame me so often for “upsetting” or “hurting” her, blaming either me (sometimes me, sometimes her parents, she couldn’t make up her mind) for everything that was wrong in her life. Although I didn’t believe it, knowing that I was really nice to her, and I’m a really nice guy in general, at some point I started to have doubts and wonder if I’m actually the asshole in that relationship. Looking back, of course I wasn’t. It was all her.

You’ll be fine. But you need to switch to a different mindset. Don’t let other people judge you. Especially women. Especially your ex. Forget her. Because wondering about what a woman was thinking or feeling about you is pointless, a waste of time. Firstly their mind changes just like the weather, secondly she’s not your girlfriend anymore. So what’s the point?

Back to your quote…

Workhard wrote:

I feel like deep down I’m not an asshole […]. But who can judge that?

Only you can judge that. But if you ask this question, you’re very likely not an asshole.

Although I’m not sure if being an asshole is such a bad thing. Coming from a woman, it’s not an insult, it’s a compliment.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

hmm I did everything I could and it was never enough….

This is universal. There is no such thing as enough to a women..All married men will tell you this. You can use your self up trying to “do enough”.

Its the same s~~~ with every f~~~ing c~~~ in the God damn universe.

Look inward. Your answers are there.

Who are you is the question.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Workhard wrote:

Thanks for the welcome Taxguy, I have seen many of your post before. Thanks for your comment. I just can’t seem to shake this nagging feeling that maybe I was the one at fault even though I did everything I could for her except buy her a house (where she wanted, and only where she wanted) and give her a kid or two. But I’m glad I avoided that trap at 28 years old. I feel like maybe she had only good intentions, or maybe I am just lying to myself, but the question still remains….what am I waiting for?

Let me put a little emphasis on one of your sentences. “except by HER a house (what SHE wanted, and only where SHE wanted) and give HER a kid or two.”

What about what YOU wanted???? This was my point. When you’re blue pill, all you worry about is making HER happy. Once you are red pill, you worry about making YOU happy. You’re just at the beginning of the journey and the options are endless. It’s no wonder you’re confused about what to do next.

Just take a deep breath, look around, and try something new. I used to fight forest fires in my youth. One of my old bosses used to say “Just do SOMETHING, even if it’s wrong.” You probably won’t figure out what you really want to do until you try things and figure out what you don’t want to do. Every failure is one step closer to success.

Order the good wine

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Be very careful. Your in that transition where you could go from bad to worse. A friend of mine calls it the chalk outline looking for a place to happen phase. You want comfort from a relationship and are vulnerable.

Please dig in and learn. Women are not your friend. Don’t be an orbiter.

Close this door behind you. Bunker in time.

Good luck.

Peace brothers

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greeting 4G,

Appreciate your Introduction and all of the brilliant replies it has generated.

Workhard wrote:

…there isn’t much to do. S~~~ is frustrating.

That is the philosophical position of an addict waiting for his next “fix.”

It has been proven that good sex creates similar brain chemistry to heroin. I have come to believe that man’s enslavement to women is primarily about chemistry which makes a man susceptible to mind control/ manipulation.

There is a withdrawal phase of drug addiction which must be overcome before SERENITY can be developed. Once you have SERENITY, peace and tranquility become joyful opportunities/ experiences. And Boredom/ frustration cease to exist.

Workhard wrote:

What now?

You are free to be foolish and use a “hair of the dog approach” by going off to hunt for “Unicorns” or NAWALTs.

That’s what I did, because I was “young, dumb, and full of cum.”

Thankfully, you have MGTOW which provides lots of proof that there are NO Unicorns or NAWALTs.

In another introduction, a MGTOW ingeniously summarized the lessons learned of my great “Unicorn” hunt:

“I was fooled by a nice quick smile,
a nice body,
and some good sex.

The smile was s~~~,
the body went to hell,
and the sex was all an act to capture my ass.”

TaxGuy wrote:

Oh yeah, forget about her. One chance, per person, per lifetime. She burned her chance with you. Never go backwards in relationships. Trying again is WAY too much drama.

One chance, per person, per lifetime.

That is the best advice.

You will be a better/ wiser man than me, if you can follow TaxGuy’s words of wisdom.

It took me too many disastrous relations~~~s to understand the great value in TaxGuy’s words.

There was some strange behavior I observed while I was a “fool for Love” and/or pussy addict:

When a woman was done with me, she was gone without looking back. It was more cold blooded than I could ever imagine. All of that “Soul Mate” and Love stuff instantly evaporated.

When a woman was not done with me, “s~~~ was f~~~ed up.” In hind sight, the mind control and manipulation “my” women exerted was phenomenal. They had me chasing my tail while I believed that it was all my idea/ fault. And to this day, I am not sure I can adequately describe how I escaped them.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[WorkhardParticipant 343]

Thank all of you guys for your invaluable advice, it’s been one hell of a weekend, Problems one after another. But a little more about me…I don’t have any social media because I can’t stand that s~~~, I don’t even have a smartphone because everyone I know that has one is constantly on it, even to the point of ignoring me to my face. I work a lot of hours and when I’m not working my official job, I help my dad on the side. What I meant by “what now” is that I’m not interested in dating or going clubbing or partying. Never have been into that kind of thing and I just can’t help but wonder what else is out there. I know I need a good hobby and I feel like I’m just miserable because this is all new to me. When does reality set in and things start becoming better?

[hidden_withinParticipant 59]

You didn’t do anything wrong. Say it again.
Women have the ability to SHUT OFF their emotions. OFF as in not on, not love , get out I’m done with your sorry ass. Meanwhile you’re left wondering if she ever loved you.
Aren’t you glad you don’t have to deal with it anymore?!
Now go open the front door, leave it open and head to the bathroom and put the toilet seat UP. Leave it. Why? Because you can and no one will bitch about it. Remember the tears she cries are only real until her trap snaps back ’round yer c~~~/wallet. Run, be free.

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