So, we're all "lonely virgins" now, huh?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Jeez Puff, have you written this all out here? Would be a fascinating story to put on the front end of our site. Think about it. It would be attributed to you and a way of telling others. It should be a great cover testimony. If you’re inspired. All that stuff about “i wish I was a virgin, I would be a millionaire” is true. Even the average working man would be well on his way there. Imagine what kind of top flight vagina a man could enjoy for THAT kind of coin over a couple of decades………

Not enough men are telling younger men “save your f~~~ing money. Forget pussy until you are 40. Just forget it. Then you will have 2 houses and all the pussy you can screw,.” Condense that into 3 or 4 words and you’ll have a best seller.

Example

A while we got this email from a “james”. How epic is this……..

Thank you for This [site].. To be able to relate is a godsend. I’m not alone. I did “Get-It”! My ears were open. I “Was” listening to my Wife when manipulated into believing I wasn’t trying & My fault my Wife Couldn’t Connect to me. Breaking myself of Pride, insecurities, & any trust issues. Reading hundreds & hundreds of articles & thousands of comments from Women that they long to be emotionally, intimately connected with there husband’s. To do the impossible because I Love My Wife. (Besides, this is what is written from thousands of Women that they yearn for.) I became vulnerable inwardly to open the Door towards emotional intimacy. I 110% Trusting my wife so we can be emotionally connected. My vulnerability being manipulated. World being ripped apart & still is. What I Loved, Cherished & built for the last 15 yrs is being vaporized. I Was Independent, Strong Willed, Self Respect & respected by Others. By being demeaned & emotionally abused, twisted up into an insecure Man. Believing I’m emotional incompetent for my kids. …. Trying to rekindle the Fire Inside me. Trying to rid my Wife’s insecurities that were manipulated that I believed were mine. Trying to open a little Darkness inside me to Toughen & Strengthen Myself up. To do this without becoming filled with bitterness. Without the hatred. To Not lose my Character that defined me as a Loyal, Devoted, Committed Man. To all the Men that stayed loyal & devoted who couldn’t throw in the towel at 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, etc sign of struggle. That have experienced their Wife’s Selfishness, Soul Raping Betrayal. Families & Friends manipulated into playing the finger pointing, blame shifting, justifying our wife’s excuses. To the Men & Children suffering, paying the consequences as all Our Wife’s say “I love you but I’m not in love with you & I Need to Find Myself” Thank You for sharing your Word’s, Your Stories, Thank You for Everything, Sincerely James,

Film at 11.

So you should know what you talk about & your stories really makes a lasting impact on others.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

My “favorite” super-Alpha-Red-Pill and feminist shaming towards MGTOW is not “you’re going to die alone,” but “thank you for at least taking yourself out of the gene pool so that we don’t have to worry about having more guys like you in the future!”

[HitmanParticipant]

not lonely and lost my virginity at 15 years old ..hundreds of women later i just don’t NEED a woman anymore ..i hit tail when i like on MY terms ..that shame s~~~ is for KIDS , MEN run their own lives and are not MOVED or MANIPULATED by these childish tactics ..why do they even bother to try ?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

“thank you for at least taking yourself out of the gene pool so that we don’t have to worry about having more guys like you in the future!”

It’s one of my favorites too. It’s a totally ignorant statement.

You know who’s NOT getting laid? You guessed it: Boyfriends and husbands.
So if they aren’t f~~~ing their boyfriends and husbands who the hell are those women f~~~ing?

MGTOW. That’s who.

Here’s a little secret no woman will even tell you about “the gene pool”.

With all the paternity fraud that goes on and DNA test results reveal 30% of babies don’t have the fathers they think they do….. a bitch who says something that stupid can be reduced to regretting she opened her f~~~ing mouth in less than 30 seconds. They aren’t fooling anyone.

The “gene pool” doesn’t come from telling women what they want to hear.
Those people are f~~~ing dishonest idiots.

“Thank you for staying out of the gene pool!!”

“You’re funny. How do you know I don’t have any kids when even I can’t possibly be sure.??”

(uncomfortable nervousness follows)

Call those sluts OUT!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[HitmanParticipant]

SO TRUE !

[HitmanParticipant]

Hitman wrote:

You know who’s NOT getting laid? You guessed it: Boyfriends and husbands.

TRUE !

[NioZenParticipant 856]

Back in the day Eminem came pretty close to going MGTOW. Don’t know what is situ is these day (nor do I care), but I remember laughing my ass off when I first heard this, pretty much sums it up:

We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

[HitmanParticipant]

ooops ! sorry ’bout that !

[HitmanParticipant]

great video lucifer ! gotta run out ..peace !

[qeeqoParticipant 1168]

Dr Phibes wrote:

I recently came across the article linked below, written by a self-described masculine guy on a blog for so-called masculine men. It is not friendly to the MGTOW position, misrepresents a number of things, and is loaded with typical shaming language.
http://tinyurl.com/p6qdy7j
I apologize if this article was linked and discussed before. If not, here it is for your “enjoyment.” I won’t attempt a summary, but I will include a few snippets* for commentary:

Even the most Instagram-obsessed, passive-aggressive, narcissistic Millennial girl desires a man to take her.

Well, of course she does. She wants someone to pay her freight. Keywords here are “Instagram-obsessed, passive-aggressive, narcissistic.” That’s pretty much why we won’t do LTRs anymore.

And despite their whinnying, the average Doritos-munching “migtow” would go “pussy worshipper” in a flash if a cute, agreeable girl was dropped in his lap.

Firstly, I know better than to poison my body with Doritos. Secondly, I’ve had plenty of pussy, and it simply costs too much to worship. Lastly, most women start off as cute and agreeable, but a very few stay that way, That is the whole crux of the issue. Of course, the writer of the article is free to go out and discover those cute and agreeable women for himself. I wish him luck.

“Migtows” are the social justice warriors of the manosphere: hysterical, intolerant of criticism, and driven entirely by emotion. Their vision of masculinity is one in which men turn inward, refusing to accomplish anything of value or engage with the world beyond crying on the Internet. MGTOW is no place for men who are proud of being men.

Well, all righty there, Skippy. Your concern is duly noted. Now, please excuse me while I go off and accomplish something of value.
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* I invoke the Fair Use standard to include snippets of the linked article for the purpose of review and commentary.

Cute and agreeable quickly turns to adversarial and confrontational.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

How can we be lonely virgins, when our spaces keep on getting invaded by women? Somebody needs to do their homework!

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

I am pretty sure the first 5 chapters of proverbs is full of male advice to stay the f~~~ away from these whores.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Dr Phibes wrote:

…if a cute, agreeable girl was …

Ah yes, I remember the last time I saw one. It was just after watching a flock of unicorns flying by my house, while Santa Claus was dropping down the chimney.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[UntamedParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

H.R. Pufnstuf wrote:

It would have saved me 300,000.00 in a custody fight. 50,000.00 from my first divorce. 25,000.00 getting ripped off of the proceeds from my first house due to divorce ripoff.
Including the expense of each wife quitting work immediately upon marriage and having to support the wenches high level lifestyle myself for stuff I wouldn’t have done ever, it probably cost me near 1,000,000.00 not being a virgin.

Say it loud and say it often!!!!

H.R. Pufnstuf wrote:

2 custody fights over the same child.

How the is that even possible?? They were not BOTH “the mother”.If it’s your child, how would a non-mother battle you over it ?

That’s how f~~~ed up it has become for men, having to fight a bitch in court who’s not even the mother.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[GrumpyParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Condense that into 3 or 4 words and you’ll have a best seller.

Time= Money
Money=Pussy
Pussy=Debt
Dept= Slavery
Spend the best time of your life, having the best time of your life. Don’t be a slave to another person.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

I read the original article recently when I started reading about MGTOW. While many MGTOWs have the right to be offended or take exception, there is another way to view it.

When I read it a few weeks ago, the author lost credibility in my eyes. It was an obvious case of “baffling with BS when you can’t dazzle with brilliance”. The heavy handed name calling and unbacked and sweeping generalities told me he didn’t have a good argument or a reasonable case to make.

In some contexts, I would even wonder if he feels threatened by the topic. I have seen failing company executives flail around in a sea of words. Panic is a factor in drownings. It takes effort to take a cold, sober and honest look at a competing product or idea and see it’s merits clearly.

His hyperactive expression of panic and condescending attitudes blended with arrogance was the print equivalent of “flop sweat”.

It actually make me more curious about MGTOW !

Frank V.

[Anonymous 3]

Feminists and manginas overplayed their hand.

I don’t even read this stuff or care about it. I’m full on ghost, don’t care about arguing with people or being sociable or anything else like that.

Feminists and manginas never wanted a discourse or to find out why men were unhappy, insisting on just shaming us at every opportunity. And it worked for awhile, we’d engage with these people, but it became clear they didn’t care, they were set on just attacking us.

So now most of us passed to the stage of apathy. We seriously don’t care. I honestly don’t think there is anything women can now do to get at least me back to the table. I just don’t care. Certainly it can’t be any measure of equal bargaining now. Women have been engaging from a position of strength for decades, they probably really do think just slightly backing off now would work, but for me that still wouldn’t work.

I’m not sure if women even lowered themselves to the same or worse position that men have been in these past decades I would want anything to do with any of them.

How do you get someone back to the bargaining table that’s fed up and doesn’t want what you’re offering at all? It’s like a horse and buggy vendor driving a hard line, meanwhile I’ve already purchased a Ferrari. Even if you paid me to take that horse and buggy now, what use do I have for it?

And this is what women are going to have to figure out what to do about. I don’t think there is a solution honestly. I think society will just collapse, or at least demographics are going to change. That’s probably why most Western nations are mass importing foreigners. They know there is no way this society is going to replace members, especially with quality members, from the native populations. The worst of the worst Westerners now have kids, while the best men refuse to play the game. We have a better chance of finding quality foreigners now.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Some of the other things I do not think they understand it:

1: You can get laid without getting married. What dupe agrees to an awful legal contract then they can get more of the same without it !

2: Sex without children is possible.

3: I think some of these men got infected with “male variant baby rabies”.

Some men think they are so “manly” because they got a female pregnant. How does that make them special, dogs do it all the time, you see no one being proud their dog got a bitch pregnant !

At least the dog didn’t agree to pay for the puppies, bought dinner and a nice ring before mounting her !

Proof: Dogs are smarter than some MRAs

Frank V.

[Dr PhibesParticipant 155]

@keymaster:
Thanks for the links. I should have known that you guys were already all over this. Although I dug up the dead horse and began beating it again, I’m pleased to see all the good responses.

@iLearn:
There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin. Virgins aren’t getting/spreading STDs; aren’t wasting time/effort wondering why their “cute. agreeable girls” have turned into unattractive, disagreeable vampires; and aren’t having children who will likely be used as pawns in future custody battles.

I do, however, think there’s something wrong with Mr. Forney’s statement*:

Not only are most Virgins Going Their Own Way personally repellent losers, their “philosophy” is completely wrongheaded.

Well he sure showed us, didn’t he? As others here have said, he is likely projecting.

@H.R.:
One million? Ouch! I saw a Terrence Popp video in which he and his producer figured that Paul McCartney’s divorce settlement with Heather Mills worked out to $10,000 per thrust,

@TigaKurisu:
Good for you. I think that a man needs to first figure out who he is, what he wants, and what his deal breakers are. That’s not being a loser, that’s being an adult. When he gets those down, then he can worry about pussy. But, he should never worship it — it’s a false god(dess).

I’ll close with another “gem” from Mr. Forney:

I wouldn’t be surprised if some “migtows” start advocating “political homosexuality” in the future. After all, since women are evil, ball-cutting, divorce-raping succubi, the only safe relationships are to be had with other men.

If you bang a dude, he won’t jam you for child support or falsely accuse you of rape, and you certainly won’t be “worshipping pussy” if you pack fudge (You’ll just be exposing yourself to HIV and drug-resistant gonorrhea, but hey, you gotta take the good with the bad).

What the f~~~?? If every guy involved with a relationship with a sexual anorexic started banging dudes, then you wouldn’t be able to walk into a public men’s room anywhere without seeing some of that action going on. Even if a man’s completely hopeless with women and legal paid sex is not an option, there’s always porn or his own imagination. Turn queer? Please. I wonder why Mr. Forney brought that up.
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* I invoke the Fair Use standard to include snippets of the linked article for the purpose of review and commentary.

"The wisest follow their own direction." -- Euripides

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Another problem I see is that it won’t stop at shaming men who are virgins.

If I want to settle for a 2, 3 or a 4, I can get all the pussy I want as long as I flatter these “women” enough. Land whales may have a million unrealistic requirements on dating sites, but if a halfway decent looking guy showers them with attention, more likely than not they are going to spread their legs.

However, instead of having the virgin insult, it will change to “Well how hot were the chicks you f~~~ed?”. Followed by “Well they were all ugly, you obviously can’t get high quality pussy.” After that if you get high quality pussy the new shaming will be “So she only wanted a one night stand?” “I guess you didn’t perform well enough to bang her a second time.” So you either can’t get pussy, can’t get good pussy or are terrible at sex.

It won’t end; it’s their blue pill mindset that causes them to pass these pointless judgements. Acquiring women for sex is such a major element for their definition of being a man that they are blind to the fact that some men don’t prioritize women in their lives, which is perfectly acceptable. Being a virgin doesn’t nullify your viewpoints on life. I don’t see them shaming female virgins who spout feminist bulls~~~; because they are playing the white knight role. And as we all know, the white knight role is just a different strategy to acquire pussy. It’s all about their pre-occupation with sex and an unchecked need for a girlfriend, as if it makes them superior as a man.

If I have no sexual experience and I’m trying to tell other guys how to pick up and f~~~ hot women then I should be called out for being full of s~~~ because I have no experience and no business giving advice. Outside of that who gives a f~~~.

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