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Zuberi Tau wrote: If any of us were raised in their environment, no doubt we would think the same. No, we should be our son’s and daughter’s environment. With the access of information still readily available, it leaves little excuse for ignorance (not yet quite illegal and controlled) we fathers should be the biggest factor in our children’s environment as possible.
BulletDodger wrote: If any of us were raised in their environment, no doubt we would think the same. You are incorrect. I’ve met southerners from North Carolina who despise racism
This is getting off topic, but I would gladly debate with both of you whether we are products of our environments. Maybe we could start a new thread.
I will start with this point, are North American(NA) women the same as women from Thailand? Would the environment in which they were raised affect how they conduct themselves?
When you import a girl from another country to live in NA, does her new environment affect her behaviour? Would it be different if you instead moved to stay with her in her native country? If you treated her with your child theory of “being her environment”, would you successfully keep out any North American influences she received? Would you not allow her to befriend NA women? Would you not allow her to watch NA television? Would she never adopt the same values of North American women? Would your “nurturing” work?
Remember, I made a generalization which accounts for there being exceptions to the rule.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
I don’t know what the problem this guy has, he is literally asking people to stop going there own way by telling them they need to be worried about an issue that has nothing to do with them.
This thread is increasingly turning into a f~~~ing joke.
Can one of the administrators/moderators put an end to this hog s~~~?
The black community needs to embrace the fact that the welfare state has destroyed their families and left an endless number of young men without father figures to teach them right and wrong. They also need to wake up to the fact that the Democratic party is the slave master responsible for this. They are enslaved by this system.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.People can attack MGTOWs all they want. They might as well punch a fog bank. Come to think on it, shadow boxing can be good exercise.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
This thread is increasingly turning into a f~~~ing joke.
Can one of the administrators/moderators put an end to this hog s~~~?
In what manner is a person DEFENDING himself from RACIST hatred a “joke”? It is so faux pas for a white man to REJECT racism in todays society, that someone such as yourself claims its a “joke”.
Go on the african americans RACIST website, and tell THEM what a “joke” it is. I commend the ealrier poster who did that, because racist agenda should NOT be perperuated by ANY race.
All of this talk of even, GOD FORBID, WHITE men broaching the subject of others calling WHITE MEN (FORGIVE ME. I WOULD HAVE SAID “US” BUT APPARENTLY THAT IS SO RACIST I CANT EVEN DO THAT) RACIST is utter horse s~~~.
If you disagree and want to silence the OP of this thread for calling out racism, then go silence the black RACIST who created the subject, and NOT a man who merely brought his racism to our attention. Its perfectly satisfactory to you that one can be RACIST, and the recipient of the category is upset, yet you tell the recipient to be silent. So much for EQUALITY, LOL. Since your telling OP, the mods of this thread to SILENCE our opinion than go tell the RACIST, BIGGOT on youtube the very same thing. THATS equality.
Barring you do that, I dont buy the notion that you believe in EQUALITY. If you did, then silence the initial source of divisive race topics. OP is AGAINST division, and so am I. But if your going to silence a man for CALLING OUT racists, then at least have the decency to SILENCE the racist as well.
Insane to me how this “works” in some of your minds.
Resident cynic.
Anonymous11At Morris Brown A.M.E. Church here, blacks, whites, Christians and Jews gathered to proclaim that a racist gunman would not divide a community already tested by the fatal police shooting in April of an unarmed African-American, Walter Scott.
@bd: Which Southern State were you in when you saw that sign in 2009?
I’ve traveled quite a bit in Florida, Georgia and South Carolina and have never seen one. From the stories my Mother told me, they were quite common 70+ years ago. My sister who lives in a rural county has a certified bigot redneck female friend who voted for Obama twice just because she votes for Democrats only, and, yes, that woman used the word that should never be used to say she voted for him. I always think of that story whenever some PC asshole says anyone criticizing the president is a racist. I know of a racist who voted for him twice.
I opened my local newspaper, and this headline is how I learned of this tragedy. I knew it was going to bad mojo. The video that Canuck posted was one angle I knew would happen. Revenge killings are bulls~~~. We all know that if a killing involving a white killing a black person has propaganda value it will be played as such. I remember seeing an older black gentleman who’s daughter had been killed in a video being interviewed on his opinion of it. He categorically stated that his daughter’s death had no propaganda value to the establishment and would not get this treatment when the reporter tried to exploit it. He was very noble about it in not wanting to use it and just pointing out media hypocrisy. He put that little PC white interviewette in her place.
Even this thread is more divided than most here, and I’m sure there are vicious troll wars going on everywhere over this. I think the issue should be openly discussed though as MGTOWs we do not shy away from things. Men are men no matter what the color of their skin.
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks what better way to weaken MGTOW than to leverage this horror show to pit black MGTOWs versus white MGTOWs. I don’t think the killer was a patsy, but I do know that politicians and manipulators of every stripe will use this to their advantage.
Black Guy here.
c’mon MGTOW’s…Why is it so hard to see S~~~ as it is?
In response to the idiot in VIDEO the Op posted. WTF is he talking about really. People like that Dickhead in the vid isnt helping society at all.
“When is comes to their own killing and murdering our people, they’ll never speak out against it” Do I need to point out those that have?
But most black peep are quick to pull out their phone and record it even when theres a black on black crime goin on, instead of calling 911 or 999. Even IF an emergency line was called you’d be branded a ‘Snitch’.
The guy sounds ‘Mental’ like he has a problem. White Supremacy?? MGBRO? Tha f~~~ outta here
I thought MGTOW was a ‘Mans’ thing not a black vs white thing. Also So If this turns out to be a black Vs White thing then I have no place here. People shouldn’t be walking on eggshells trying hard NOT to be racist these days. As a black guy, im actually ashamed that this is still happening. if people get offended then they should be seeing the counselor.
Anonymous11Thanks for coming on board Chromestar. This thread needed some input from a black MGTOW. The fact the OP video guy was going mental was why I stopped a little after 1 minute. The killer was mental, and now every damn mental case in the country is worked up over it. Mentally ill people feed off of drama. Normal people only feel grief for the victims, their friends and families, the congregation, and the City of Charleston. Mentally ill people will be triggered into rage by it.
We’ve got to not let these mental cases dictate our reactions. Other innocent people are going to die from what that f~~~ing freak did which will trigger both copy cats and revenge attacks I fear to say.
People shouldn’t be walking on eggshells trying hard NOT to be racist these days
I will give you the white guy take on this though. Among whites there is a fear, quite real by way, of being pilloried by the opposite of racists the PC race exploiters, and I don’t know if black people experience that angle. A politically correct person would simply call me a racist for bringing up anything they can twist. PC people go looking for anything race, environment, transgender or whatever to be offended and act holier than thou.
The more I think of it the PC set have a lot in common with women and manginas. In most cases they are women and manginas.
The media elites are plotting right now how to exploit this to further their agenda. They want everyone divided and conquered, and this is a perfect opportunity for them. To even contemplate how to leverage this heinous act to further an agenda is insulting to the victims’ memory and indicative of mental illness too.
I didn’t really follow the discussion but i’m gonna say this: only feminists and SJWs buy into this race shaming tactic. These black racists are just attacking scarecrows. I try to judge people on their actions and words, not skin colors or genes (and i’m propably not alone here). These guys are just like feminists who conditionned themselves to see oppressions wherever they go and this is pathetic really.
Anonymous11I’m sharing this quote from SC State Senator Clementa Pinckney who was killed by that Suboxone addicted piece of s~~~.
Suboxone Addict Piece of S~~~.
“…That’s what the church is all about. Freedom to worship and freedom from sin, freedom to be fully what God intends us to be and have equality in the sight of God. …Sometimes you may have to die…to do that” – Clementa Pinckney(2013)
Rest in Peace, sir, along with the other 8 who were called prematurely.
Anonymous42I don’t have a racist cell in my body, I join hands with my black panther brothers as well as my KKK brothers! WE’RE ALL MEN FIRST, ASSHOLES SECOND! That white pile of s~~~ represents no piece of my heart, soul, or mind!
As for all the whining and complaining that ALL white men are racist, I’m calling ALL black men out that believe in this bulls~~~! My black friends, as well as my white friends are deeply disturbed at all the hatred that’s being spouted at all things innocent. WAKE THE F~~~ UP! The ONLY VICTIMS here are those good and decent souls that were brutally murdered, and everyone that had the pleasure of knowing them! Their the one’s that are suffering! My heart, and a little piece of my soul goes out to them.
As for the OP’s video; that man is being deceived by his own hatred and suffering. He’s having his scabs peeled over and over again by his own BLIND racism. He needs a moment of clarity and recognition before he can see the truth…WE’RE. ALL. BROTHERS.
Is hatred of feminism considered racist? If so, then I’m a racist! A BIG F~~~ING PRICK RACIST!
@BD: Which Southern State were you in when you saw that sign in 2009?
Hey CP, it was Arkansas.
I thought MGTOW was a ‘Mans’ thing not a black vs white thing
You have a place here brother, Mgtow is definitely not a black vs white thing.
There has been a lot of discussion and debate on this thread, this is a good thing, great job everyone!
We can’t all agree on everything all the time, discussing this is a great opportunity for learning.
We have to understand that people are going to be upset about these racist killings, let them vent if they need to, show them compassion and understanding.
Do not allow the racists to divide society, or any group for that matter, including Mgtow.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
In 2009, in the south, I seen a sign on the front door of a pub, it said “No Black People Allowed” Have you seen those signs anywhere else in the USA? I know that I have not. I have travelled throughout the states, and I stand by my generalization. I am not insulting them, I am stating what I observed. People in the south are amazing people in so many ways, great manners, great hosts, down to earth, but…being racist is “normal” in the south. This is their environment, I don’t hold this against them. If any of us were raised in their environment, no doubt we would think the same.
You claim to not be insulting people who are from the south but say the “normal” aka the majority are racist. I’m not sure how many people take being called racist as a compliment. I was raised in that environment and I have no doubt I don’t think like that.
My experience of racism doesn’t come from generalizations or signs it comes from experience. I had a buddy who was shot in the head in Chicago because he was dressed in a blue costume for Halloween in the wrong neighborhood. Barely made it and was in the hospital for 6 months. A racial gang war was going on and they were setting up boundaries for the upcoming drug season. When I was in Boston I had a friend who was beaten senseless because he was Jewish. A city which had school segregation issues until 1988. I got stabbed walking down the street because of my skin color in L.A.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
Just because someone shares an attribute with me, it doesn’t mean that he is one of my own. It is racist to do that, and put me in the same as him. There is a lot of evil I am not speaking with my channel and so on.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
There, to placate that channel. I stepped up a video I was planning on doing, about ghosting the world, and spoke to the issue there. The news fit what I wanted to do, so I did it. Yes, after 3am, and in need of sleep, I crank this out:
So, as a MGTOW, how plugged or unplugged do you feel you need to be to keep up with how the world is burning?
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
So, I have been noticing a trend now that is somehow, concerning. There are a lot of black “mgtows” now trying to shame white men for being mgtow. However, it s not because we are ignoring women, but because, apparently, we don’t care about black community
I read the title. Then I read the opinion. THEN, I liberated myself of initial reaction, and went back and both pieces twice. I GET WHAT YOU’RE SAYING. I thought to myself, if I had to phrase the subject in the most straight forward, neutral manner without being biased, what would I call it? In the end, in my limited education and foresight, I came up with the exact same title.
Problem is, not everyone is going to remove personal opinion or bias at first site. We as people tend to go with our initial default reaction from first glance, blurt out our response, and only then do we take a step back to analyze our response.
Kudos to you and 1+ for content. I see you are pointing out a very sensitive subject related to MGTOW that has instant potential to become a carpet-bomb. The key then, is for us (members of the forum, MGTOW), to approach the subject both civilly, with respect for each others opinions, and with great care.
I thought race was irrelevant and to be kept out of forum discussion.
That video is in the negative and has absolutely nothing to do with black mgtows.
Kudos to you and +1 for research. Mind you I considered this as well, and even thought it was written in the forum “rules” it was not written in legalize. That very rule could be expanded upon to mean “When it is irrelevant” to MGTOW in general, or when it is the sole subject at hand. I don’t know, I am not a legal expert nor nor do I bare any kind of administrative right here. So it’s just my opinion. However, I do think when such subjects are addressed, it should be done with the utmost care and consideration for all involved in the color spectrum. The key is to not cause discourse from within. Race baiting, hating, trolling, etc. has and for quite some time will be used as a trojan horse/ cry wolf tactic for people to draw attention to themselves or a subject they hold dear to themselves.
Yes, race should be kept out of this forum and the video is fruitless. The jack ass in that video is not a mgtow nor does he have anything to do with the manosphere. FFS!
Kudos to you and +1 for keeping the thread focused on it’s relevance to MGTOW. I absolutely agree with you. But I would also say that it IS a subject that can be addressed if done tastefully, and in the spirit of pointing out a chink in the proverbial impenetrable armor of MGTOW. Make no mistake about it, it is an extremely difficult subject from any angle. It is also my personal opinion that ignoring a potential enemy (OF MGTOW AS A WHOLE) doesn’t make it go away, any less frightening, or any less potentially dangerous
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Shamed: if you are a white male, and notice black racism, I am disuaded from disuccing it. As your posts are evident of that fact. “Keep race out of it”: that is PRECISELY the OPs intention. His contention is with someone who is DRIVEN by race. Do you see the disanalogy and irony?
I think the subject was deemed taboo simply because most people in general cannot debate the subject without ultimately being at each others throats. IDK. I could be wrong. Just a forethought I suppose.
Here is a quote from a famous black leader in regards to s~~~ bags like the one in the video.
Kudos and +2 for Content. Although I am not historian, nor is it my strong point, it is nice to at least get some educational value out of this thread as yours is the last piece at this point. I wasn’t even aware that such a quote existed. It definitely has good taste to it.
But -1 for Booker…. he wasn’t MGTOW.
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
I didn’t really follow the discussion but i’m gonna say this: only feminists and SJWs buy into this race shaming tactic. These black racists are just attacking scarecrows. I try to judge people on their actions and words, not skin colors or genes (and i’m propably not alone here). These guys are just like feminists who conditionned themselves to see oppressions wherever they go and this is pathetic really.
I understand you’re opinion.. brother, I gotta ask though, why? WHY WHY WHY My Little f*cking Pony?!?!?!?! Just…… WHY?!!!! LMAO!!!
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
So, as a MGTOW, how plugged or unplugged do you feel you need to be to keep up with how the world is burning?
That is quite possibly the most profound question I have read on here… damn.
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
Anonymous11The fact that CNN has stooped to the level of splashing the incendiary Confederate battle flag into this malevolence speaks volumes. It’s almost as if they are trying to turn this event into a catalyst for riots.
@bd: Thanks! I’ve heard a few rumors of this but never have had word from anyone actually seeing one until now. If you had a business here and pulled that stunt, not only would you exclude 50% of your customer base only a small percentage of dysfunctional whites would even support you. My nearest dive bar has a black gentleman patron who works for the railroad and lives in a rural town on the other end of the line. He hangs out there when he’s here in town. He told us the story about the first time he walked into the bar which is majority white and expected to be accosted by bigots. He was pleasantly surprised to be warmly received . There are both white and black racists here. They do not control things and are generally mocked by their peers for it. The culture is not permeated by it here.
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