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Anonymous11We have to accept the reality that the southern US Bible belt is a racist area, they have an amazing amount of hatred, and being racist is considered “normal” there. The racism goes in every direction
@bd: You are right about it being prevalent in the South. It does cut both ways and also exists pretty much everywhere in the World sadly it’s probably the norm. I live in the South not far from where that damn shooting happened so it has struck very close to me. Racism is not really prevalent in my city though on either side of the fence, but we do have some on both sides. They are pretty much jackasses no matter what their color. I also don’t like it when people call anything they happen to disagree with racist so I’ll never back down in the face of that threat.
This shooter asshole has done so much damage to everyone and his act is going to be used by malicious forces. I will crack open a beer in celebration of the day they finally execute him for this crime. I’m sure his mental health records are a 1 meter stack of paper.
@AW: The first time I heard that song I went into LMBO mode too. It’s pretty f~~~ed up, but that was Slayer’s style right slap in your face. That’s actually one of their least offensive pieces of work. They were the only band I listed to as a teen that my Mom truly hated.
There’s a reason for this kind suggestion. What’s the difference between ‘overly-criticizing’ and ‘criticizing’? F~~~ if I know, but I’d rather not read s~~~ like ‘white mgtow’ and ‘black mgtow’ communities. It just don’t make sense because ‘M’ is for Men..no need to define any further.
Exactly.
The “M” stands for men.
Race has absolutely nothing to do with it and should not be an issue on this forum, period.
Exactly! OP wasn’t the one defining it or seperating it. His PROBLEM is with someone who DID. OP is concurrent with your views, and is calling out someone who is NOT. What is wrong with that?
I would LOVE to see ANY of you telling OP to be silent on the issue, go to the youtube channel in question and SILENCE HIM! You won’t, and its not because you dont want to feed the “trolls”, its because you find it more culturalaly acceptable to silence a white man than you do a black man. If not, then go on the youtube channel and silence him. Im sure as S~~~ youtube has guidelines about racist postings. Do it.
If you will NOT be EQUAL in your application of silencing people
than dont do it at ALL.Resident cynic.
@ancientwisdom – Erm I called him out and I’m black too btw. Go back to the comments section and check for a comment from Pyr0n. Don’t act like we dont account for our own. I wish I knew about this ignorant crap earlier so I could’ve replied to it but here ya go. Oh and don’t worry if I see a white, asian, or hispanic MGTOW who decides to post the same bulls~~~ I’ll call them out too.
We have to accept the reality that the southern US Bible belt is a racist area, they have an amazing amount of hatred, and being racist is considered “normal” there. The racism goes in every direction, Heck they even have KKK store, they are 60 years in the past…. Race is not a Mgtow issue…. don’t let them make it one. Let nobody divide us.
I have been all around the United States and in all regions they have large racially divided groups of people killing each other. Considering the majority of the armed forces come from the southern region I am very surprised at the generalizations you place on that region compared to others. Especially you being a strong proponent of the military it is odd to see you insulting their culture.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
@ancientwisdom – Erm I called him out and I’m black too btw. Go back to the comments section and check for a comment from Pyr0n. Don’t act like we dont account for our own. I wish I knew about this ignorant crap earlier so I could’ve replied to it but here ya go. Oh and don’t worry if I see a white, asian, or hispanic MGTOW who decides to post the same bulls~~~ I’ll call them out too.
Salute and cheers my friend! I am inspired and VERY respectful of you for it. These divisive tactics NEED to be called out. It transcends race, and I have ZERO problem with ANYONE of any race. Thank you for being a stand up man. If I ever meet you, first round is on me!
Resident cynic.
We have to accept the reality that the southern US Bible belt is a racist area, they have an amazing amount of hatred, and being racist is considered “normal” there. The racism goes in every direction, Heck they even have KKK store, they are 60 years in the past…. Race is not a Mgtow issue…. don’t let them make it one. Let nobody divide us.
Race is not a MGTOW issue but apparently where one was born and raised is. Let nobody divide us? You just did.
Best advice my dad gave me, "Don't get married. Don't have kids."
@AncientWisdom- Nah no drinks needed brother lol. I am just a follower to the cause and simply want to see all of us who can be saved successfully “go their own way”. That ignorant s~~~ is nothing more than one of the many distractions some of our brothers like richardhutnik have warned us about.
@bd – If you are also Terrence Popp, I love the Youtube material you put out there but I must agree with Travis on this one although as a fellow vet I know exactly what you mean having been in those parts myself. That by no means should give that Youtuber a pardon for spewing ignorant crap that could damage our cause.
I don’t automatically identify with all white men, and I’m sick of tip-toeing around minorities sensitivities.
I think this whole thread has highlighted an important social issue.
The insecurities of minorities.
Society has spewed all this vitriol against the oppressive white male CIS, in order to keep people playing in to the perpetual victim hood schema. My opinion of white supremacists is the same, they are victims in their own minds, blaming their problems on other races.
There is nothing wrong with the title, what that black man said was wrong, he was being racist and preaching hate to split MGTOW, what BadKan did was pull him up on it. Now if anyone identifies with that black racist piece of s~~~ then that’s their problem, if they are offended by the title, then they need to check their sensitivities, nowhere did I see BadKan say “all black men say or do anything”, just the examples he showed.
Calling BadKan out on being racist without mention of what that black racist piece of s~~~ did is the height of hypocrisy, and plays right into the intentions of that piece of s~~~.
I don’t think all black men are like that, but the one’s that BadKan pulled up, are beyond all reasonable doubt worthless pieces of s~~~.
And to all minorities, get off your sensitive high horses, and open your eyes, we’re all being played.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
In 2009, in the south, I seen a sign on the front door of a pub, it said “No Black People Allowed”
Have you seen those signs anywhere else in the USA? I know that I have not.
I have travelled throughout the states, and I stand by my generalization. I am not insulting them, I am stating what I observed.
People in the south are amazing people in so many ways, great manners, great hosts, down to earth, but…being racist is “normal” in the south. This is their environment, I don’t hold this against them. If any of us were raised in their environment, no doubt we would think the same.
Especially you being a strong proponent of the military it is odd to see you insulting their culture.
My opinion of the military, and people in the south serving in the military, are of no relevance whatsoever to my generalization of racism being considered “normal” in the south.
Here are 2 interesting studies, apparently it is prevalent in the north-east as well, yet I never experienced any in of this in my travels through the North-east.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
this is like the first time i’ve even seen the words “black men” written in a topic on these forums.
should say how much bs this is; probs a bunch of chicks trying cause some trouble… guy in the video talks like a mangina…
>it’s your fault for not telling us black people about womenMy Goal: To Leave Society.
Anonymous13Women were never the warriors, they were NEVER the leaders in battle, (a few exceptions from some backwoods tribe, or some religious symbol does not count – men were not completely idiots back then – not like Hollywood and academia would like to say) I could get all technical and go on and on, but truth be told – it is women who complicated the issue of nation defeating another nation – “race” if you would like. They muddled the honor system, they f~~~ed up everything since the industrial revolution, things were naturally panning out w/o their BS, now its beyond f~~~ed up since women have became so involved in activities that were historically a man’s.
There’s a lot of complex (complex for women in general) factors involved in this, and I could go on and on, like I stated previously, but it boils down to Political Correctness impeding any real progress that could be made.
If any of us were raised in their environment, no doubt we would think the same.
You are incorrect.
I’ve met southerners from North Carolina who despise racism and don’t blame their life’s short comings on an African boogeyman nor Jewish banker sitting in a New York office building. You’d be surprised to know that the most racist parts of the south are where poverty is high and where the individuals are too lazy and f~~~ing stupid to keep a job.
He called white people “Edomites.” How ironic from a descendant of Ham… I think this is just one solitary crazy black dude. I don’t think this is indicative of a schism in MGTOW. Nothing to see here…
Anonymous13If any of us were raised in their environment, no doubt we would think the same.
No, we should be our son’s and daughter’s environment. With the access of information still readily available, it leaves little excuse for ignorance (not yet quite illegal and controlled) we fathers should be the biggest factor in our children’s environment as possible. Sorry to get all preachy, but that’s my opinion. Master our domain, our ancestors did it for centuries why stop and be a herd animal now, we killed herd animals then (not to sound ignorant) but just because don’t hunt mastadons, bears, sabr tooths etc, doesn’t mean we should just start believing this “oh its just environment, oh its just genetics” no, its a combination of “YOU + NATURE + NURTURE”. The previous is feminine thinking, just my opinion, again.
I live in the South not far from where that damn shooting happened
My condolences for this happening in your community, it is deplorable..
The people must be strong… We can’t let one radical divide all of us….
We must forgive, if we go by “An eye for an eye” belief, then we will all be blind…
People are going to be upset by this tragedy, they may react with racial comments etc, we must all be understanding and show compassion.
Here is a post from the NYTimes….
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting.html?_r=0
Some highlights…
At Morris Brown A.M.E. Church here, blacks, whites, Christians and Jews gathered to proclaim that a racist gunman would not divide a community already tested by the fatal police shooting in April of an unarmed African-American, Walter Scott.
– To attend this church during this tragedy would be an amazing experience, good can come out of bad. People of all beliefs and races standing together. I am white, I would attend and show my support. I refuse to let race divide us.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
Anonymous13Initially I was going to refrain from this topic, but then I realized WHY: its because white men are always SHAMED into NOT discussing while at one and the very same time told countlessly that we need to have a “discussion” about race.
Yep, and its not black “men” that do the shaming, it is females, white/black knights, and manginas that do the shaming.
Maybe a good “man” a good “father” was not in their childhood environment? hmmm
He called white people “Edomites.” How ironic from a descendant of Ham… I think this is just one solitary crazy black dude. I don’t think this is indicative of a schism in MGTOW. Nothing to see here…
He’s not from Ham. He’s a “so called” Hebrew Israelite and a text book demagogue.
Anonymous1I don’t automatically identify with all white men, and I’m sick of tip-toeing around minorities sensitivities.
Yep, agree. That one of the reasons why I made this rant. That video just set me off. Specially watching 2 racists in a row…
I think this whole thread has highlighted an important social issue. The insecurities of minorities.
Agree. And the funny thing is, that was not my intention at all. I thought I was pretty clear on what I was criticizing. Aparently black men cannot be criticized, even when they are being racists. F~~~, I even said:
Although there are some black mgtows there that I look forward to watch their videos, I give them credit for their actions/words, and not for the color of their skin.
and
I reached a point where I can say, if you are a black man (or Asian, or Muslim, or whatever), you are welcome to share your knowledge and/or learn with us, or you can leave.
And somewhat, as somebody mentioned, I am the one bringing the race issue. Despite stating that RACE IS F~~~ING IRRELEVANT. Give me a f~~~ing break.
Society has spewed all this vitriol against the oppressive white male CIS, in order to keep people playing in to the perpetual victim hood schema.
Which is why I put the video here and decided to criticize not only the author of the video BUT ANYONE THAT THINK THE SAME S~~~, REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. But hey, I am white, so I must be racist… Oh wait…
There is nothing wrong with the title, what that black man said was wrong, he was being racist and preaching hate to split MGTOW, what BadKan did was pull him up on it.
Thank you
Now if anyone identifies with that black racist piece of s~~~ then that’s their problem, if they are offended by the title, then they need to check their sensitivities, nowhere did I see BadKan say “all black men say or do anything”, just the examples he showed.
Once again, thak you. I said black men because, from what I saw, BLACK MEN were being racists. I didn’t say ALL BLACK MEN, neither I said MOST BLACK MEN. In fact, just a few posts after, I posted a video from PaulProteus, one of my favorites by the f~~~ing way, where he pretty much smashes this whole race divise. But again, some people decided to skip that part.
Calling BadKan out on being racist without mention of what that black racist piece of s~~~ did is the height of hypocrisy, and plays right into the intentions of that piece of s~~~.
And, once again, I agree. I was disapointed to see that there are some indication of social justice here. Like I said, if anybody have anything against my points, spill it out. However, the only criticism I saw was because I made the heresy of calling racists black men racists. I wonder if would be the same problem if they were white, or asian, or any other “race”. And I stand on my position. The black men that buy into this s~~~ are more then welcome, as far as I can tell, to leave. And take the racists of other etnicities with you.
I don’t think all black men are like that, but the one’s that BadKan pulled up, are beyond all reasonable doubt worthless pieces of s~~~.
Yep. There is no benefit in hiding them to appease anyone. Racism is racism, bigotry is bigotry, regarless of race or gender. If you guys think I will give racists a break because they are black, or any other race, I will be more then happy to disapoint you. Furthermore I am human too and I am white, and in all honesty this white guilt s~~~ has to stop. Probably, if the men I criticized were white, and I had written WHITE MEN instead of BLACK MEN, there would be no problem here. But since they are black, then the thread is suddenly “not adding anything to the site”. Well then, we shouldn’t criticize ANYBODY, because any form of criticism would bring NEGATIVE energy and wouldn’t add anything. Give me a break.
And to all minorities, get off your sensitive high horses, and open your eyes, we’re all being played.
F~~~ yeah.
Thanks AFT. I am not criticizing you, I just wanted to add a few personal observations to your post.
And @keymaster, if you disagree with anything I said or done, let me know.
I am done here.
Edit: I already spoke my mind and see no need to inflame this topic any more.
Resident cynic.
@CrazyCanuck,
That video you posted is alarming. I don’t know what the author meant, does he mean the outwardly racist white people, or does he consider all white people racist? I’m white but I do not condone racism or committing acts to hurt anybody for race. Yet, he sounds like I owe him and other black people because a white man committed a crime out of hatred, and if I don’t cough up, I fail his form of justice (which is actually vengeance and hatred), my life is forfeit. I am to die.
Yet I also see a victim complex. Even if someone is victimized, you cannot give them amends. That feeds their victim complex. I’m afraid to say it but if he comes for me I’ll have to use whatever force to protect myself. I don’t want to use force. I just want peace. I’ve had enough hell in my life.
I’ve even been the victim of racism myself. I had the pitiful luck (and my life is marred by consistent pitiful luck) of going to a school full of poor, racist, ghetto, black kids who aspire to be thugs, druggies, prostitutes, pimps, and anything else that drains society, simply because they hate white people. I was bullied and the bullying was ignored by the staff. The teachers ignored it. Once I was being pushed back and forth in front of a fat white female teacher. This one black boy shoved me and another shoved me back, as if to say, “This white person disgusted me.” I had no choice, I was seated by the rule (elementary school). Then I swore, and I was sent to the office for swearing. Talk about a nasty sick minded culture.
So, when I see all this racism crap, I can see right through it. Those black men are just as f~~~ed up as the black boys I faced. I know the ghetto mindset. They’re sick as f~~~. I also know what they can do. I know how dangerous they are. They mean it when they want to kill. They will do it. They are just as bad as the KKK, only they get away with it. Their crap is ignored, even endorsed, because they’re special princess victims. I apparently must wallow in my white guilt and if a black person approves of me, I may then show my face. Should I express any interest for myself then I am a racist and must be treated as such.
Now, to be far, only half of the black folk at that school were nasty. The other half were actually decent. Some where just generally dicks, and some where outwardly violent and hostile. They know they can do anything they want (but they won’t allow themselves to know they’re privileged because that’ll kill their victim status) and they know you can’t. They will take advantage of this.
I also know their games and how they think. I can promise you, should you get in a fight with one, watch out, more will come. You’ll appear on the radar and many will come after you. The government will come after you and consider you racist. You’ll have a list of hate crimes and it’ll only get worst. There’s nothing you can do about it. My advice is to not get caught up in it ever.
In this community I see a double standard. Those black MGTOW who give crap to white MGTOW are definitely coming from a racist position, which I spell out before. Yet, if you point it out, you’re bring racism into this. It’s already in there now, we have to talk about it. Putting racism out of it is illogical and unhealthy. We must discuss it now. We white people have a right to defend ourselves. To give those black people a pass for their racism and to try to stop white people from standing up against it is unfair and doing the same thing.
To take that away is to squander the freedom under MGTOW. MGTOW is particularly powerful since one is not burdened with PC, cultural things, shame, guilt, or anything else that would take away the power of thinking. That’s what I see in MGTOW, that it’s freedom to think, it’s freedom to grow, since society relies on you to be a slave so they may grow fat, that you cannot be allowed to see this so you continue, just for the paltry gift of approval (although the arrogance of people these days, think that they can expect you to continue but now they won’t even give you approval at all).
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