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  • #43857
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    CountMeIn
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    I’m gonna do it. I’m going to see my GP to talk about seeing a Urologist about getting snipped. I never had children and I never will. As I’ve gotten older and in better shape I’ve gotten more attention. I should do everything possible to protect myself. I had a co-worker have this chick show up on his door looking to tie him to her pregnancy. He never told her he had a vasectomy. She was p~~~ed. LOL. I’ve seen that they have this new “no scalpel”  procedure. Seems pretty simple. Probably easier than a root canal. Any thoughts?

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    Anonymous
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    Howdy Count,

    I haven’t paid much attention to what is available as far a vasectomy methods. I guess something could be done with the plumbing using a laser maybe. I still think the old fashion way would probably be a safer option. I will definitely check out a scalpel less method though. Just out of curiosity.

    #44275
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    Jackson1888
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    Don’t do it. Its not MGTOW. Don’t alter or change your body surgically due to females and potential issues with them. THEY ARE NOT WORTH IT. Do it for yourself if you are going to do it…

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    Anonymous
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    A recent advancement in the vasectomy technique is the no-scalpel vasectomy,  In a conventional vasectomy, the physician may make one or two small incisions with a scalpel, and then use sutures or stitches to close them at the end of the procedure.  In the no-scalpel method, rather than making an incision, the doctor makes only one tiny puncture into the skin with a special instrument.  This instrument is used to gently stretch the skin opening so that the tubes can reached easily.

    The tubes are then blocked, using the same method as a conventional vasectomy, but because no incision was made, there is very little bleeding and no stitches are needed to close the tiny opening.  The opening will heal quickly with little or no scarring.

    The technique of the no-scalpel vasectomy was developed in 1974 by a Chinese physician,  Dr. Li Shunqiang, and has been performed on over 8 million men in China.  No-scalpel vasectomy was introduced to the United States in 1988 and is now used by many doctors in the U.S. and elsewhere.

    Compared to the traditional incision techniques, the no-scalpel vasectomy usually takes less time, causes less discomfort, and may have lower rates of bleeding and infection.  Recovery following the no-scalpel procedure is usually complete in three to five days.

     

    FYI

     

     

     

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    CountMeIn
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    A recent advancement in the vasectomy technique is the no-scalpel vasectomy, In a conventional vasectomy, the physician may make one or two small incisions with a scalpel, and then use sutures or stitches to close them at the end of the procedure. In the no-scalpel method, rather than making an incision, the doctor makes only one tiny puncture into the skin with a special instrument. This instrument is used to gently stretch the skin opening so that the tubes can reached easily. The tubes are then blocked, using the same method as a conventional vasectomy, but because no incision was made, there is very little bleeding and no stitches are needed to close the tiny opening. The opening will heal quickly with little or no scarring. The technique of the no-scalpel vasectomy was developed in 1974 by a Chinese physician, Dr. Li Shunqiang, and has been performed on over 8 million men in China. No-scalpel vasectomy was introduced to the United States in 1988 and is now used by many doctors in the U.S. and elsewhere. Compared to the traditional incision techniques, the no-scalpel vasectomy usually takes less time, causes less discomfort, and may have lower rates of bleeding and infection. Recovery following the no-scalpel procedure is usually complete in three to five days. FYI

     

    This is the one I was reading about. Wow, didn’t realize it was this old.

     

    Don’t do it. Its not MGTOW. Don’t alter or change your body surgically due to females and potential issues with them. THEY ARE NOT WORTH IT. Do it for yourself if you are going to do it…

    In a way I see what you are saying. I’m a level 2 MGTOW. No marriage, kids or moving in and I limit my exposure to women. Currently right now I see an older woman on occasion for fun and sex. She can’t physically have kids. We both agree to have fun till something better comes along. I told her I want someone younger. Getting a vasectomy is something I feel very  selfish about. Trust me it’s all about me nowadays.

    #44367
    RoyDal
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    level 2 MGTOW

    Today is my day for MGTOW research. I didn’t know what the Levels of MGTOW are, so I found this article.
    It looks like I’m a Level-3.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #44373
    Jackson1888
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    That article was hardcore RoyDal:

     

    I found myself to be at an early Stage Level 4 according to that. I was a little concerned at first…but after a couple minutes I thought about what a level 4 MGTOW is.

     

    A sexless man who has rejected females and society…and then I thought “that works”.

     

    Society is a f~~~ing nightmare and so are women. Maybe females and society have rejected me…

     

    The world is not a perfect place. How I got to the point I’m at is kind of a miracle. I’ll never go back to my old way of thinking. I can’t afford to. Its a recipe for disaster for millions of men. There’s literally millions of men who’s lives have been destroyed because they don’t even realize there is an alternative to mainstream American culture.

     

    Think about that for a minute…there are people out there who literally think that “Mainstream American Culture” is the only way to go. That is just sick.

     

    MGTOW isn’t perfect, neither is the world. We can’t have our cake and eat it too. We are f~~~ed no matter how you look at it. The world is not exactly in a state of tranquility right now is it? I’d say considering how far our country has fallen we MGTOWs are doing pretty darn good!

    #44385
    Jackson1888
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    I’m fascinated by how that article said that a Level 4 MGTOW understands how the world really works.

    Meaning anyone who really, really knew how the world worked would already be at level 4 MGTOW.

    I can honestly say with my connections to people in high places I do have a greater understanding of how the world works. It doesn’t make me any smarter or better then anyone else, I am simply aware that nothing is what it appears in this world.  Again, I did not come to this level of understanding of the world on my own.  What the world appears to be  vs. what the world really is are two different things. It basically boils down to the media has created a completely false reality that people are living in, and are completely unaware that they are living in the matrix, being lead around in circles (to nowhere) from the day they are born until the day they die.

    When you understand this there is no option but to drop out entirely.

    There are so many unseen dangers.  MGTOW is great but there are a lot of other dangers out there similar to the danger of females…probably another 10 things that are equally dangerous to human beings that we aren’t talking about…unfortunately if I told you all these dangers you would think I was schizophrenic! Its that bad.

    #48875
    The_reality_factor
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    Hi guys,

    New here! I had the snip about 2 years ago…. on the the operating table, local anesthetic and a scalpel. The whole procedure lasted about 20 minutes…was not as bad as I thought it was. I was up and moving around a couple of hours later, work the next day and surfing by the 7th day.

    Sex with female(s) improved (for me) as all concern of pregnancy had disappeared. I had a sperm count performed to make sure I was completely sterile. If you want to have kids later on in life etc. you can always get sperm frozen.

    Women WILL get pregnant if they want you (or kids) and you should take steps to absolutely manage this section of your life. I got trapped by a women when I was a younger man – never to happen again…..I’m free now and intend on staying that way 🙂

    Children are a serious, ongoing financial commitment. You will always have ties to a women when you have kids with her….

     

     

    #49022
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    Sam Raven
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    Level 4: Commando level ‘Ghost’ MGTOW

    “This level of MGTOW, at least in my observation, is the only one which strictly requires a conscious effort and decision on the part of the MGTOW – many men simply drift into stages 1 and 2, but a complete cloistering of oneself from society at large requires some level of understanding as to how the world really works.”

    I like this line. Because this describes what society derides as the ‘conspiracy theorist’ and ‘tinfoil hatter’. The prepper. The one who knows about social engineering, history of tyrannical regimes, eugenics programs (which feminism is a product of). Because the Level 4 MGTOW understands that Knowledge is Power and READS. He will still keep his friends, but recognizes society is too far messed up for him to even bother trying to fix it.

    Meanwhile the rest of society doesn’t see a massive social program organized against them that sees them as cattle and STILL believes their problems will be solved by voting in the next politician. What someone else said about the media spin and being called schizophrenic for it.

    I like this line because this is me, not fully, but the foundation has been set. Now I am working towards getting my own house.

    One of the article quotes by Stu from AVFM said that MGTOW cannot go on forever as it will simply attract draconian laws when the State loses money and basically saying there is nowhere to run. This is a cop-out opinion from a loser that reeks of defeatism. Good luck to that. Because we will always find ways around it.

    “We are not a fad or a fashionable movement.  We are not a “faux-crusader” hobby for people too lazy to work at anything (going green, PETA, veganism, etc.)  We are a backlash against the biggest psycho-social atrocity foisted upon a people.  You destroyed our lives, our country, our economy and our people.  And without those things in our lives, we have nothing else to do but exact our toll of revenge.”

    Statement of the century. The statement in bold runs in my blood.

    #49819
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    Kbbroiler
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    Hey Count me in. I just had the procedure done a month ago.  I got to say no regrets at my end. I had the no scalpel vasectomy. Never really hurt and I could of drove there but I took precautions. I took the subway.  Good Luck. I know you’re doing the right thing.

    #49971
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    CountMeIn
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    Hey Count me in. I just had the procedure done a month ago. I got to say no regrets at my end. I had the no scalpel vasectomy. Never really hurt and I could of drove there but I took precautions. I took the subway. Good Luck. I know you’re doing the right thing.

     

    Thanks, I see my GP this month for a referral. I’ll keep everyone posted.

    #53676
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    TaoTheMgtowWanderer
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    i think ill have to see my doctor about getting this done.  I can’t wait! 😀

    My peace of mind is worth more then your vagina...cunt.

    #69454
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    Pharmer
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    I was thinking of starting this as a topic 🙂

    Got mine done about a year and a half ago.  Bit of a crazy story –

    Wife (now ex of course – Hi I’m pharmer and I’m one year clean and MGTOW) and I were considering it and for a bit she was all like ‘no wait’.  Then a week of so later she was yes you need to get it done NOW.    Now keep in mind I was damn near out of my mind most of the time with stress and anxiety and the kids we already had were enough to put me off any more.  So as much as I’d prefer to think about it longer I just do it.  Just so I don’t have to even discuss it anymore.

    After this the relationship deteriorates over 4.5months and in the last few weeks before we separate (she leaves)  she admits to me that when I was still NOT CLEAR of sperm she had gone off the pill in an attempt to get pregnant.   After bullying me into it she still tried to scam me for another kid

    WHAT in THE unholy realms of  F~~~.     yeah that was another red pill, more like a containership sized dose.

    Kinda makes sense tho, because I was wondering why we had sex twice in those last 6 months.  Not joking.   She was such a f~~~ed up piece of work in the end.  I am so blessed to be free.

    Am I glad I did it?  Hell yeah.  I know for sure I will never be caught with another kid.  Maybe if you have no kids and you’re not 100% sure, get some of your guys put on ice.   Beats the s~~~ out of risking sex where the condom might break, she may be lying to your face about the pill, or she spermjacks your rubber out of the trash.

    If you’re out there dating and she’s trying to get pregnant on the sly, she deserves to be jammed full of jiz and disappointed every month when it fails.    If you’re in a relationship where you have discussed this openly She’ll either stick around if shes ok with it, or look for another sperm donor / meal ticket.    As far as I can see for the guy that still wants sex but not kids its the best option till they get a good male pill equivalent.  It puts the power back where it belongs, with us.

    Now to my actual experience of the op:   Was well nervous but had done plenty of research and discussed it with the urologist before hand.  In his opinion there was little difference in the cut Vs no cut and he was practiced in the cut method.  The inscision was prob about 8mm long if that  ( 3/8″ ish)   pain was well within my limits and I’m not the best with pain, no worse than a tattoo.  For sure the most uncomfortable thing about it was having another guy handling your junk.  Sounds funny but at times I was torn between “Hey quit it! that tickles” and “DUDE!! Get the f~~~ off my b~~~~!!”  but decided to lay still and try to imagine anything other than what was happening.   After it was only as bad a bit of a hard slap to the sac, very little brusing and small amount of swelling.  Did the cold packs for a bit after but by about the third day I found heat packs in the evening made things better, reduced swelling and pain from the day.   Unfortunatly I got drafted back to a rather physical job in only 3 days but I’d say a week – 10 days of taking it easy should see you 90% better. took me 2 or 3 weeks.   After 6-8 months It was like it never happened.  The only give away is a couple of tiny bumps like BBs in your sack where the knots / scars are at the end of your tubes.    Of course every guy is different and your experience may vary but over all mine was good as.

    I am currently with a woman I see for a bit of fun every now and then.  She knows and is fine with it. She’s on the pill but makes me so much more comfortable knowing there is NO WAY any accidents can happen, intentional or otherwise.

     

     

    Never fuck a crazy chick.

    #70942
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    Wolf
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    I had a vasectomy done about 4 years ago. It was the “scalpel” procedure, but it was very simple and lasted about 15 mins.

    The doctor cut one very small hole at the top of the scrotum/base of penis and inserted a hook tool to pull the vas deferens out. After the vas deferens were exposed, a piece was cut out, the ends were burnt, and titanium clips were placed on each end. Once completed, they were inserted back into the hole and the small hole was glued.

    I didn’t feel a thing. The only discomfort was the anesthetic needles at the beginning. For me, the discomfort level of this was on scale with what you’d experience at the dentist when you get the anesthetic needles.

    After the procedure, I took it easy for a few days and followed the doctor’s instructions to the letter. I did not have any problems. Nowadays, I don’t even think about the fact that I had a vasectomy. My orgasms are the same (except doesn’t look quite as thick), and I have zero regrets.

    #71259
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    Jason
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    Seriously considering doing this, myself… Not because I sleep around or anything – heck, I haven’t even had sex since 2013 – but because I want that uncertainty out of my life, y’know? Plus I plain don’t want biological offspring, not the way society looks today. And if, ten or fifteen years down the line, things get better, there exists ways to get around it, anyhow…

    There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

    #71352
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    Wolf
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    Seriously considering doing this, myself… Not because I sleep around or anything – heck, I haven’t even had sex since 2013 – but because I want that uncertainty out of my life, y’know? Plus I plain don’t want biological offspring, not the way society looks today. And if, ten or fifteen years down the line, things get better, there exists ways to get around it, anyhow…

    You don’t want any non-biological offspring either. AKA women with kids from a previous relationship. I don’t know what the laws are in your area, but in my jungle guys can be ordered to pay child support, if they acted in place of a parent. The legal world calls it “in loco parentis”.

    #198401
    CountMeIn
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    Update: I’ve been off for a while so I figured I’d catch up a bit on my story. Years ago after a long term relationship ended I told myself if I found a good one I would cut the cords. I’ve been lucky to be only with women who could not have kids till now. Over the last six years I’ve met some poor representations of the female species. Last summer I met a great one. I’ve been around the block to know the difference. She’s on the pill but she was clear that if she got pregnant she would have it. Although she was also very clear she didn’t want more kids.

    Even so I didn’t want to take a chance and this week I excercised my only reproductive right and went in to have it done. I’ve never had any sort of sergery and really, it was smooth as silk. I opted to be put under. I closed my eyes and a second later I opened them and the nurse said “your all done”. I’m quite health so really the recovery was minimal. Iced for two days and went to the gym five days later, upper body only. Two stitches and I feel fine. Tested the plumbing and really it does feel the same. The only thing is it kinda hit me… the finality of it. The doctor said “consider this final”. I’ve thought over it the last couple of days, I’ve never had kids and now I never will. I can’t help but think how different my life would have been if women weren’t so poor nowadays. How would it have been if I was born in the 50’s.

    The girl? She’s divorced and has two kids. She got his house, half his retierment and a two years of alimony. He fought to get the kids half the time to cut back on child support. Really he doesnt know how lucky he is. Most women would have took him to the cleaners, He’s an engineer. I can see she backed of as it dragged on for three years cause it was tough on the kids. The judge is know to side with the men but really I can see the kids are the loosers. They spend two days with her, two days with him then they flop weekends. Holidays are a total mess. The back and forth can’t be good for them. Another good reason I never had kids. I’m going to keep seeing her but I made it clear to her I like my life how it is. She likes her life how it is and in the last six months I’ve seen her kids just once. I’m keeping it MGTOW.

    #198651
    Boisdevie
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    I had the big snip 20 years ago after my second kid was born. I’ve been divorced for 16 years and had quite a few relationships in that time and on two occasions the woman wanted a kid with me. Very easy to say no can do when you’ve had the tubes done.
    It makes life so much easier and no danger at all of accidents.
    The procedure was simple and quick. I’ve had more discomfort at the dentists.

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