Satanism is it devilworship or nonconformity

[John DoeParticipant 743]

J.D Silvernail wrote:

See it for yourselves.

Yeah, I already told you, I researched this stuff years ago.  That is why I am calling it bulls~~~.

[Anonymous 2]

Satanism actually helped me get through high-school, lol. I wouldn’t say it is all bulls~~~, but basicly laveyan Satanism is just a hedonism burger with heavy metal sauce, an ego-based philosophy in which I do see some parallels with MGTOW. At least Satanism acknowledges man as a sovereign, sexual creature. Some of the underlying principles I simply agree with, but as I grew older the whole imagery came off as childish mockery indeed. Mockery is hardly the best method to get someone to change his beliefs, and would rather reinforce those.

The “end product” of Laveyan Satanism is definately different from the theistic version. Devil worshipper never “unbelieve” their original religion and as such acknowledge the bible as truth. Laveyans do not. This is a difference between relative truth (religion) and absolute truth (science). That doesn’t really align Satanism with MGTOW any better, because of their policies on magic and ritual (creating your personal, relative truth is fine according to Laveyans). There is no objection to hedonism or egoism as far as I see in MGTOW, within reason off course. I do believe redpillers are more attuned to their ego, their self-worth, then bluepillers are. They could use some ego to discover that value in themselves. Ego is a weapon against female abuse. Wield it wisely, don’t flaunt it, is my advice. So as far as alignment with MGTOW is concerned, it depends on the importance of absolute truth in MGTOW whether or not religions and pseudo-religious, philosophical offshoots are compatible.

I personaly believe none of them are, because all are relative truths based on interpretations of the absolute truth. One cannot interpretate the absolute truth, merely observe it, and allowing any interpretation of it, may prove harmfull to future generations of MGTOW. Whether or not the absolute truth is intelligently designed is a very interesting question, one we can only debate but not yet confirm with current scientific advances, but boundaries are pushed. Untill the day we know, I’ll keep an open mind and just try to live as nature intended without screwing myself over culturally.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Anonymous wrote:

Ego is a weapon against female abuse.

Ego is why there is female abuse.   Feminism is just a culturally accepted, politically viable, off-branch of this philosophy.  I am not trying to deride you or sound preachy.  I am just saying that you claimed this “philosophy” helped you through a lot of problems, when in reality it caused a lot of the problems you had to deal with.

 

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

John Doe you’re not a christian are you? If you are you should see the blog that I posted about the so called non-denominational church of christ.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Most people believe that christian propaganda

 

I need to address this for what it is,  but I can’t quite put my finger on  statement that starts like that…I’m confused.

I know this topic is about satanism and devil worship which is a subject I know little about so I will refrain from speaking about that at all…. I guess you can accuse me of avoiding the topic at hand and your all correct in that regard. But is this not sly subtle way of making a stab at Christians?

propaganda:

1.

derogatory

information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

who is most people?

most Christians?

is everything people hear/talk about  in church considered propaganda?

putting the two words together “Christian” and “propaganda” says something about the views a person has…And they are not open  minded views…

who runs the christian propaganda machine?

is any christian who expresses his belief part of the evil propaganda machine?

or just those who are expressing there belief in public?

propaganda has been defined as spreading false or misleading biased information. So labeling Christians as  propagandist is not an unbiased and open minded viewpoint to start any religious discussion…

If you want to discuss views about satanism or any belief other than Christianity then why say anything bad at all about Christians…That just sullies  your topic from the start…

To sully:  damage the purity or integrity of; defile

The term “most people” should be rarely used in a mgtow setting.. why?  Do we care about the views of the blue pill public?

Religious beliefs good or bad, right or wrong, can and will be used, as a tool to divide, separate and destroy  any group looked at as a threat…..MGTOW are above being manipulated through these means…We can have strength and unity but still agree to disagree….

I have faith, There I said it.   What if the battle was for real and I was exposed to danger? Would one of you non-believers assist me?  If the scenario was flipped and the only thing giving me the strength and courage to assist you was my faith…We must agree to disagree about religious matters but do so with an agreement that no man is lesser of importance or value because of his lack of belief or his faith…

 

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Anonymous 2]

Satanism never created problems for me. I just read a few books, nodded in agreement on many subjects, and laughted at the shock value of it’s imagery. I never took it deadly serious, as all -isms and religions will cause problems when taken to their extremes.

I fail to see the link between ego and female abuse though. Perhaps a weak-willed mangina will allow himself to be abused, but a strong-willed MGTOW will turn around and walk away. It’s all about the quality of ego, not it’s size. Inflated egos won’t help men indeed! Perhaps you meant something different with that statement, that I missed?

 

[John DoeParticipant 743]

J.D Silvernail wrote:

John Doe you’re not a christian are you? If you are you should see the blog that I posted about the so called non-denominational church of christ.

I will look it up.  I am guessing you are going to say it has a lot of similiarities with what we are talking about.  If that is what you are going to say, I will have to agree even before I read your blog. I really don’t like that faith because it is subjective and has no philosophical or theological authority for its interpretations.  It is like the used car salesman of the faiths.

Anonymous wrote:

I fail to see the link between ego and female abuse though.

My fault, I was not clear enough.  Women worshipping themselves, promoted through feminism, has cause a lot of the societal problems we deal with.  This is a very similar philosophy to Satanism.  In a nutshell, narcissism causes more problems than it solves.

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

I read the Satanic Bible, by Anton LaVey, quite a few years ago, and read it once more a couple of months back. I found it to be a similar experience to the one I had by discovering MGTOW, or reading buddhist literature: most of what was in there, I knew and practiced already, because it just made sense.

Much like buddhism, I started snickering and closed the book as soon as imagery and rituals started making an appearance. I agree with most aspects of satanism, and some of buddhism, but only in terms of philosophy. As soon as it turns into a pseudoreligion, I’m out of there.

[Smacktalk73Participant 296]

Michael Crow wrote:

As soon as it turns into a pseudoreligion, I’m out of there.

I have been toying with the idea of a “church of selfishness.”   It would be different from the Ayn Rand stuff, because that pretended to be objective.  But the truth is, people get selfish benefits out of religion.  The problem is the logical objection is that we are “worshiping” something that is bulls~~~.

So why not worship selfishness?  Recognize that selfishness built everything — we wouldn’t have civilization, language, science, art, or anything human without selfishness.

Everyone goes into the church open and honest “I’m here for my own selfish reasons, and they are just as good as everyone else’s selfish reasons.”  There is no bulls~~~ about “unselfishness,” which is always manipulative double-speak.

That way, we’d have the community, support, networking and even charitable safety net, of a church, without all the bulls~~~ “religion” we all know in our hearts is fake.  Even the Buddhist and Satanist bulls~~~ would be stripped out.

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

Hmmm… I recall reading about a form of moderate or controlled selfishness somewhere, maybe it was the Satanic Bible itself, but I’m unsure. It was something along the lines of doing whatever you please, so long as you don’t harm anyone who doesn’t deserve it. I agree with you if that’s what you’re saying.

[ArjunParticipant 11]

I’ve read about Satanism also, that upside down star represents the triumph of our “lower” nature over the spirit. Meaning personal emotion and sensuality overriding the spirit (which is the basis of our corporate, hollywood, societal ) slavery. When the star is upright, that means that the spirit and noble virtues are in control. From what I understand the Satanic part of man are his basic instincts, which in relation to MGTOW would me that we think with our dick….which got us into this trouble in the first place. Allowing the emotional/sexual allure of women to TAKE OVER OUR HIGHER MINDS and then manipulate and use us.

The Machine wants us to follow our emotional whims and be attracted to their carrots and cars and models, so that we LOOSE OUR INTERNAL MASTERY. Some of the tenets of Satanism seem cool on the surface, but the are HALF of the story.

I have read the whole Satanic Bible years ago, I am FAR from an expert. But many selfish, materialistic and hedonistic principles have gotten us to the state we are today: how do men loose their integrity? We give it away for all that gitters and that is wet and warm. Why are women gold digging and using men? Because they too are lured in by all that glitters, STATUS, SEX, MONEY, MATERIALISM, MATERIAL/SENSUAL EEGOISM it rips men and womens hearts out and turns them into slaves.

[ArjunParticipant 11]

SELFISHNESS: i agree you have to look out for yourself, and being a doormat is definitely NOT the road to travel. But if Satanism is Selfish, I’snt that what the f*** up women who use and abuse are all about? Then Satanism=Femenism….and we’re going to follow that crap?

[John DoeParticipant 743]

+2 Arjun.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

If we are selfish and follow the rules of Laveyan Satanism,then we will succussfully use women to our advantage and they will evntually regret treating us like dog s~~~ and one day come to respect us as equals. Trying to be better than the feminists is only out of hate from what I’ve noticed and it isnt a very good solution. I dont know about you guys,but i dont hate women or feminists in general, i just have a bitter resentment towards them and furthermore i accept that im human(just like they are) which is why i use their tactics against them. It works for me because all the feminists at school respect me as an equal(even though the prudes still treat me like s~~~). They know that im a MGHOW.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

J.D Silvernail wrote:

J.D SilvernailParticipant 45 Topics 26Replies 129Total 155 If we are selfish and follow the rules of Laveyan Satanism,then we will succussfully use women to our advantage and they will evntually regret treating us like dog s~~~ and one day come to respect us as equals.

And they are not doing the same?  Look out that turned out.

And a second question?  Why do you need their respect?

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

I dont need their respect. I just got it and its nice not being treated like dogs~~~ all the time.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

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