Rollo Tomassi : MGTOW is a pragmatic response

[OldBillParticipant]

Veritech Ace wrote:

But…what if you have blinds, and not curtains.

Use her sheets, pillow cases, or blankets. The result is the same.

All kidding aside, I’ve always made a point of immediately washing my genitals, abdomen, and thighs after throwing a hump into some woman. I do that because I want to strongly imply through my actions that I’ve washed her “stain” from my body and that I’m done with her.

When asked, I usually say something about wanting to “clean myself” while emphasizing the word “clean”. In a few case, I’ve flatly said I wanted to remove the “odor” and “residue”. The phrase “residue” really drives the point home.

Ever the gentlemen, I make it a point to bring a warm, wet wash cloth back to the bed and offer it the women so she can clean herself too. I asked one woman who declined if she planned on “laying in that all night”. She stomped off to the bathroom giving me a chance to dress. When she came out, I was saying goodnight!

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[narwhalParticipant]

AFT wrote:

And thus, we have men who’ve bought into the feminine-primary conditioning that their highest sense of reward ought to be found in fulfilling the ideals of Fempowerment who instead find that women’s solipsism and their own, life-long approach to appeasing it has instead driven them to find that something else more intrinsically and/or extrinsically rewarding.

I find this to be the most interesting. Basically, we’ve been told that looking out for women’s interest is our duty. But what the heck is a ‘duty’? An obligation yes, but are there intrinsic obligations that a man is simply born with? I suppose there is an obligation to parents, but if it exists, it certainly doesn’t exist for parents who did not fulfill any duties towards the son or daughter. Even then duties are done to fulfill an inner need. If there is no inner need, and no payoff for the effort it simply isn’t done.

Take a fireman for example. The pay is less, there is no doubt that I fireman gets a strong sense of self worth for his efforts. He is usually appreciated by his efforts. If the fireman got no sense of worth out of saving someone from a fire, and no appreciation for his efforts…would he do it? Would it be just as stupid as running into burning building with no one and nothing of value worth saving?

That’s what I think of when I hear these ‘duty’ arguments. They like to define duty as something you must do for no reason whatsoever, or just to maintain your current sense of self worth. But the truth is, no man wants to run into an empty burning building. There must be a return of some fashion, whether monetarily or emotional satisfaction.

To be fair, I do see much value returned in being a father and even being a husband, but not as husband is defined today. Leading a family can be a very rewarding lifestyle. Sharing that lead with the modern wife is not.

Aside: I’m not sure why I find this related exactly, but I’m reminded of a conversation I had with a coworker years ago. He was about to leave on a mission trip to Haiti to build water wells. Being that I just heard that unemployment was a big problem, I asked him why he didn’t simply send money so that local workers could build the wells themselves, solving the water problem and stimulating the economy. His response was that the whole point of going down there. I knew evangelism was part of his mission for sure, but I couldn’t help he believe he got a lot of satisfaction out of the mission over just sending money.

Ok. Then do it.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

narwhal wrote:

Aside: I’m not sure why I find this related exactly, but I’m reminded of a conversation I had with a coworker years ago. He was about to leave on a mission trip to Haiti to build water wells. Being that I just heard that unemployment was a big problem, I asked him why he didn’t simply send money so that local workers could build the wells themselves, solving the water problem and stimulating the economy. His response was that the whole point of going down there. I knew evangelism was part of his mission for sure, but I couldn’t help he believe he got a lot of satisfaction out of the mission over just sending money.

Sounds like emotional vampirism to me (ref: vampirism = to extract something from somebody else, physically or emotionally). It’s the same mechanism described by Ayn Rand in “Atlas Shrugged” were the average working man is supposed to enjoy being emotionally/financially blackmailed to support so-called “needy” people (which includes family members like a wife and so on). He could indeed send the money to Haiti, but that isn’t the point. He has a need to point towards himself and proclaim himself defined as acting “good”.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[RhettParticipant 637]

Oz-Bloke wrote:

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed.
Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.

This sums it up. Thank you for this inspirational quote.

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

I’ve been told that I’m a sell out for reading books not assigned by teachers , uncool for liking country and skateboarding, yet happier for doing what I wanted inspite of how “wrong” it is.

Now the same people forget and ask me “Kimmuriel how are you so happy?”

MGTOW since birth, bitch!

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

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