Relationships are a stress source

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

freedom wrote:

I’m thinking about my past relationships and aside from having sex every once in a while, they caused me a great deal of stress.

On the first month, the inconsistency, the games, don’t come too close and stay close, the confusion – hell for every girl I dated, the initial steps were nerve-wracking, there were times I nearly got back to smoking because of that inconsistent crap.

then when I was “entitled” to some sex and things got serious, they annoyed the hell out of me and criticized me for everything, really how can a guy manage that? I was always the good guy, hell if I had a daughter, I would love it if she married a guy like me before I became an MGTOW and I never understand why I was always treated like some kind of piece of s~~~, no matter what I did for them.
You know what’s worse? unlike with your friends, where the more you do for them, the more caring and friendship you get , with women I dated it was always the opposite, then they p~~~ed me off and I pushed them away cause I couldn’t stand being taken for granted again and again and again.

I had so much stress due to a relationship, that I even booked a 1 month trip to the other side of the world a few years ago because I had to get my s~~~ together. really not even once could I really feel happy with any of them, only for short times, and I always hoped for that unicorn who never came, instead, I got stress.

Unlike you guys, I don’t think that I ever had few months of happiness with any of my ex-girlfriends, for every happy day with them, I had few crap days, and I always thought it’s my fault.

Good post Freedom.

The amount of crap you deal with, far outweighs the initial couple months of sex. Once you go through all that, you realize the meathole wasn’t even worth it.

You are spot on regarding the more time / less care, with women. They cannot keep up the charade forever. You start to see how they REALLY are.

Unicorns are just that. They don’t exist, and the women/blue-pillers who maintain they do exist… who cares? We don’t need them, not should we rely on happiness from them.

Live longer, be happier, without cuunts.

[Sky-OParticipant 18934]

For a man, the source of the stress in relationships stems from:

01: An inherent sense while in the relationship that she is only in it and with you because you were just the best subjective option at that point that she could secure with the minimal amount of effort & energy that was /is required of her to maintain it.

02: Her constant (even at the beginning) innate desire to keep all of her potential future options open if/when a better deal comes along. Essentially, being ready to bail whenever she wants and basing the logic behind her extracting from the current relationship on whether or not she has a viable and better guy lined up. And she will leave you with ease and no remorse because she never had anything invested in you or the relationship with you to begin with.

03: Indirectly and at all times, being in a state of constant competition with every other guy she meets, looks at or that pays attention to her. Your love for her is based on loyalty and trust. Her feigned an illusionary based interest in you is derived from there not yet being another guy that she perceives to be better in the perimeter yet. Her transition is always inevitable and her discarding of you, ultimately predetermined.

04: The lack of any real intimacy or trust (see above 01 – 03) along with her not reciprocating in the relationship as well as keeping her options in a continual state of being open – Causes the man she is with, even if he does not know the root cause, to be anxious, confused and psychologically & emotionally insecure. She is the source but he stays, blames himself and tries to do the impossible. And that is to satisfy an entity that is unable to know who or what she really wants.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Sky-O wrote:

For a man, the source of the stress in relationships stems from:

01: An inherent sense while in the relationship that she is only in it and with you because you were just the best subjective option at that point that she could secure with the minimal amount of effort & energy that was /is required of her to maintain it.

02: Her constant (even at the beginning) innate desire to keep all of her potential future options open if/when a better deal comes along. Essentially, being ready to bail whenever she wants and basing the logic behind her extracting from the current relationship on whether or not she has a viable and better guy lined up. And she will leave you with ease and no remorse because she never had anything invested in you or the relationship with you to begin with.

03: Indirectly and at all times, being in a state of constant competition with every other guy she meets, looks at or that pays attention to her. Your love for her is based on loyalty and trust. Her feigned an illusionary based interest in you is derived from there not yet being another guy that she perceives to be better in the perimeter yet. Her transition is always inevitable and her discarding of you, ultimately predetermined.

04: The lack of any real intimacy or trust (see above 01 – 03) along with her not reciprocating in the relationship as well as keeping her options in a continual state of being open – Causes the man she is with, even if he does not know the root cause, to be anxious, confused and psychologically & emotionally insecure. She is the source but he stays, blames himself and tries to do the impossible. And that is to satisfy an entity that is unable to know who or what she really wants.

F~~~ing home run.

04 describes my experiences exactly.

The answer, is no.

[Sky-OParticipant 18934]

Billy & The Cloneasaurus,

Thx.

I’ve been hitting a few home runs in the last week.

And when I go back and read them the next day, I laugh and feel guilty.

Because Im conscious of what spawns my sometimes clear and focused thoughts and should probably confess to all right now.

90% of the theories and thoughts I unleash here are posted late at night, after more than a few beers, some shots of Jagermeister and a bong hit.

Like, nothing relevant or even worth reading gets posted during the day by me. And I’m willing to admit that.

But, it’s undeniable that I nail it all and hit these home runs when my mind is clear and thoughts are fluid.

And that’s just due to alcohol and weed.

I’m tempted to run an experiment this weekend and start with mushrooms, then take some acid, followed by a line of cocaine then start posting. S~~~ could get real on a whole new level quickly.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

They also treat you far better if it is something casual ie. Friend with Benefits or a casual setup. The “I love you” move means nothing – she either wants you thinking emotionally about you, you are her best option or she wants something I.e. a commitment. A woman who is not no. 1 girlfriend will be far more honest with you and even help you in relation to other women’s behavior and dealing with it. Presumably because she can see your other options you run into less games. These are the women I’ve found it easiest to interact with. A “girlfriend” or wife will exhibit all the behaviours SkyO talks about. They are still women obviously but their more obnoxious behaviours are kept in check and reserved for their relations~~~s.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[Anonymous 38]

Ranger One wrote:

Getting rid of emotions has eliminated most if not all stress from my life.

The gf says she loves me, and I might feel guilt for saying that I do to when in actually I feel nothing, but then I don’t have the emotion of guilt either.

No emotions = ZFG = freedom from slavery.

Ranger, I’m really interested in how you did this. Do you have any tips or strategies, books to recommend etc? As I would like to aim for the same.

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