Relationships are a stress source

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  • #744755
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    Freedom
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    I’m thinking about my past relationships and aside from having sex every once in a while, they caused me a great deal of stress.

    On the first month, the inconsistency, the games, don’t come too close and stay close, the confusion – hell for every girl I dated, the initial steps were nerve-wracking, there were times I nearly got back to smoking because of that inconsistent crap.

    then when I was “entitled” to some sex and things got serious, they annoyed the hell out of me and criticized me for everything, really how can a guy manage that? I was always the good guy, hell if I had a daughter, I would love it if she married a guy like me before I became an MGTOW and I never understand why I was always treated like some kind of piece of s~~~, no matter what I did for them.
    You know what’s worse? unlike with your friends, where the more you do for them, the more caring and friendship you get , with women I dated it was always the opposite, then they p~~~ed me off and I pushed them away cause I couldn’t stand being taken for granted again and again and again.

    I had so much stress due to a relationship, that I even booked a 1 month trip to the other side of the world a few years ago because I had to get my s~~~ together. really not even once could I really feel happy with any of them, only for short times, and I always hoped for that unicorn who never came, instead, I got stress.

    Unlike you guys, I don’t think that I ever had few months of happiness with any of my ex-girlfriends, for every happy day with them, I had few crap days, and I always thought it’s my fault.

    #744761
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    Boar
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    When you recognize that another person’s happiness is not your responsibility, your stress levels go way down. When your peace does not rely on another’s mood, your happiness and contentment can only grow.

    Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

    #744787
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    Ogre
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    I had to break it down early in my marriage that it was not my job to entertain or make her happy.

    Only much later did she try to blame me for her inability to get beyond “content”. Dumb ass thought that I’d be okay with somebody just getting by. She didn’t work or even keep the house up. She should have worshipped me as a god since everything in life came from me.

    They are unable to love or sacrifice like we do. They are petulant, perpetually unhappy angsty tweens. The worst thing you can ever do is seek approval because the finish line moves.

    When you stop caring and do what is right for yourself you see actual approachable goals… and you exceed them. Finishing something for yourself gives true achievement.

    I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

    #744811
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    Dark Kenshi
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    When you recognize that another person’s happiness is not your responsibility, your stress levels go way down. When your peace does not rely on another’s mood, your happiness and contentment can only grow.

    This… This is gold, right here.

    You are only responsible for your own happiness, and for your own life. You can lead her into a life that is better for her, but it is her who need to cross the door that you showed.

    More often than not, women won’t do that, because it takes a lot of effort to go beyond “content”, and it is an effor that they have to put for themselves. You cannot do it for them.

    So, why would you even bother? Do your thing, if she is happy, fine. If she is not, the door is right there, she can leave at any time.

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

    #744829
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    I’m thinking about my past relationships and aside from having sex every once in a while, they caused me a great deal of stress.

    On the first month, the inconsistency, the games, don’t come too close and stay close, the confusion – hell for every girl I dated, the initial steps were nerve-wracking, there were times I nearly got back to smoking because of that inconsistent crap.

    then when I was “entitled” to some sex and things got serious, they annoyed the hell out of me and criticized me for everything, really how can a guy manage that? I was always the good guy, hell if I had a daughter, I would love it if she married a guy like me before I became an MGTOW and I never understand why I was always treated like some kind of piece of s~~~, no matter what I did for them.
    You know what’s worse? unlike with your friends, where the more you do for them, the more caring and friendship you get , with women I dated it was always the opposite, then they p~~~ed me off and I pushed them away cause I couldn’t stand being taken for granted again and again and again.

    I had so much stress due to a relationship, that I even booked a 1 month trip to the other side of the world a few years ago because I had to get my s~~~ together. really not even once could I really feel happy with any of them, only for short times, and I always hoped for that unicorn who never came, instead, I got stress.

    Unlike you guys, I don’t think that I ever had few months of happiness with any of my ex-girlfriends, for every happy day with them, I had few crap days, and I always thought it’s my fault.

    Yes, you can’t be nice and happy around them, that makes them unhappy and p~~~y at you, the s~~~ tests start coming then. They know THEY have not done anything to make you happy so something else must be making you happy (which is not logically a truth), and that is a problem to them.

    So you have to give off a fairly decent p~~~ed off/angry vibe to keep them happy and giving you the fear smile. It sucks you have to do that in order for you to have peace with them. Most guys do not figure this out and the ones that do, sit there and think is it really worth it, I can’t just be my normal happy self without her s~~~ting on me. What kind of life is that to never be able to be yourself without the person who is supposed to love you the most, without them getting angry at you for being a nice, happy guy? Not one I want.

    That is super stressful and in no way appealing.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #744837
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    Ranger One
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    Getting rid of emotions has eliminated most if not all stress from my life.

    The gf says she loves me, and I might feel guilt for saying that I do to when in actually I feel nothing, but then I don’t have the emotion of guilt either.

    No emotions = ZFG = freedom from slavery.

    I can’t be enslaved, I can’t be defeated, I can only be killed and I am not afraid of death, because fear is an emotion I don’t have either.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #744844
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    Anonymous
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    They intentionaly cause you stress.
    It breaks you down.
    Kills your Spirit.
    Makes you easy to control.
    Unapealing to other women.

    Thats all marrage is.

    Stress and a killed Spirit

    #744864
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    Bigboy83
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    The reason why they confuse men is because….

    If you understand them you cant love them.

    And if you love them you cant understand them.

    Otherwards if you understand them its game over for them.

    Speaking about relationships i always was stress from them. Sex wasnt even worth it, anymore.

    Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

    #744872
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    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    Freedom-

    I think you are right.
    Relationships have always been a source of stress for me also.
    Women somehow convince men that it’s their job to keep them happy. And women complain constantly that they are not happy. It’s not our responsibility to make women happy. I didn’t really learn this until I became MGTOW. Now, if a woman wants something, she had better be prepared to give something of commensurate value.

    #744878
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    Freedom
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    Freedom-

    I think you are right.
    Relationships have always been a source of stress for me also.
    Women somehow convince men that it’s their job to keep them happy. And women complain constantly that they are not happy. It’s not our responsibility to make women happy. I didn’t really learn this until I became MGTOW. Now, if a woman wants something, she had better be prepared to give something of commensurate value.

    They never get that simply by calming down and not being so uptight, they can be in heaven emotionally.
    A man will adore a woman who has his back and always smile, it’s so easy to be such a person, why for them it’s so hard? It’s like they are hard wired to be obnoxious, or simply modern times made them this way

    #744897
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    Boar
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    They are unable to love or sacrifice like we do. They are petulant, perpetually unhappy angsty tweens. The worst thing you can ever do is seek approval because the finish line moves.

    ^Pure brilliance. Ogre, you have captured the pitfalls and shortcomings of any relationship with whimyn in three simple sentences.

    Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

    #744913
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    KevinStyles
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    Ya i agree relationships are the source of a lot of stress. Work stress during the day, relationship stress outside of work. It’s better for your health to remove as much stress from your life as possible and since most people need to work, relationships become the optional stress source that can easily be rid of.

    #744960
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    Noname
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    Yes, you can’t be nice and happy around them, that makes them unhappy and p~~~y at you, the s~~~ tests start coming then. They know THEY have not done anything to make you happy so something else must be making you happy (which is not logically a truth), and that is a problem to them.

    So you have to give off a fairly decent p~~~ed off/angry vibe to keep them happy and giving you the fear smile. It sucks you have to do that in order for you to have peace with them. Most guys do not figure this out and the ones that do, sit there and think is it really worth it, I can’t just be my normal happy self without her s~~~ting on me. What kind of life is that to never be able to be yourself without the person who is supposed to love you the most, without them getting angry at you for being a nice, happy guy? Not one I want.

    That is super stressful and in no way appealing.

    Lived trough it, doing everything to please unpleasable slut, that is no way to live.
    My stress levels are almost at optimum right now, memories can be a bitch though.

    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. - Aristotle
    Warrior asked Fear, “How can I defeat you?” Fear replied, “If you don’t do what I say, I have no power.”

    #744973
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    Twist
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    A man will adore a woman who has his back and always smile, it’s so easy to be such a person, why for them it’s so hard? It’s like they are hard wired to be obnoxious, or simply modern times made them this way

    Right – you’d think it would be so much easier to be happy. But not sure they are hard wired to be obnoxious, more like hard-wired to be f~~~ing miserable.

    Decades (go ahead, I deserve it) of pleading “can’t you just be nice?”. And the response always the same – spooled-up, dysphoric rage, and “YOU be nice TOO!”

    They can’t. Just can’t.

    No wonder they are called c~~~s.

    #744976
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    Stealth
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    Same story here. Except I was always aware I was not at fault for their actions, but was only responsible for my own. Asserting this is a powerful way to get that hamster sprinting.

    After divorce, I viewed the unnecessary stress and drama from relationships as field training, or powerlifting: How much could I take and still choose to go on? Perhaps a bit sadistic, but the goal was self-improvement, kind of like s~~~-testing yourself to build NFG muscles. It worked in the sense that peoples’ basic problems no longer phase me, and when I hear people crying over pretty basic stuff, I can offer a REAL story for them . . . But in time and with nothing further to prove I became aware it was tiring, so why do it?

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

    #744979
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    Red Knight
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    I find that a certain level of stress is good for you. Without stress, there is no progress. Without progress, there is no satisfaction.

    But I look at tte enduring of stress as an investment. And, as with money and time, there are good and bad investments of stress. Does the rate of return justify your investment? With marriage, the answer is a flat NO. With any blue pill relationships, it’s a big fat NO.

    And like money, if you invest more stress than you can afford, i.e. to the point of breaking down, then you will only hurt yourself.

    Choose very wisely what you stress over.

    Formerly MoneyOverBitches

    #744985
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    A man will adore a woman who has his back and always smile, it’s so easy to be such a person, why for them it’s so hard? It’s like they are hard wired to be obnoxious, or simply modern times made them this way

    Right – you’d think it would be so much easier to be happy. But not sure they are hard wired to be obnoxious, more like hard-wired to be f~~~ing miserable.

    Decades (go ahead, I deserve it) of pleading “can’t you just be nice?”. And the response always the same – spooled-up, dysphoric rage, and “YOU be nice TOO!”

    They can’t. Just can’t.

    No wonder they are called c~~~s.

    They dont think they need to work for anything. Who are you to criticize them? You are f~~~ing lucky to have them just be around you.

    Thats why. Thats the problem of modern women. Everywhere they are told they are perfect and awesome and deserve the best and you go gurl and f~~~ him if he doesnt appreciate you.

    Modern women are just highly refined poison.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #744999
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    Beer
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    Its amazing how blue pill guys never figure this out. They’ll chase and chase and chase so hard until they get a relations~~~, said relations~~~ makes them miserable, if they’re stupid enough to get married/divorced they get financially f~~~ed…and then they go out and do it all over again.

    After a while for me it was just like hey ya know what…dating sucks and once you get a girlfriend, that sucks even more. I’m done playing this game…

    #745003
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    Its amazing how blue pill guys never figure this out. They’ll chase and chase and chase so hard until they get a relations~~~, said relations~~~ makes them miserable, if they’re stupid enough to get married/divorced they get financially f~~~ed…and then they go out and do it all over again.

    After a while for me it was just like hey ya know what…dating sucks and once you get a girlfriend, that sucks even more. I’m done playing this game…

    Pussy Blindness. That’s what the unawake simps/betas/cucks have.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #745010
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    ForeverDone
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    Seriously, and I do not like saying this, but it is the truth. Aside from sex, I really do not know what women are good for these days.

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