Really Old School MGTOW

[OldBillParticipant]

The holiday has given me time to dip into my collection of literature from the Classical Era and I’ve come across a few pearls of wisdom from men who lived millennia ago.

In the 5th Century BC, Herodotus gathered all the information he could about the known world and put it in down in a single work he called The Histories. He mixed together historical data with myth and travelers’ tales to create a which still fascinates the reader. Everyone who reads it finds endless fascination in trying to sift fact from myth.

Herodotus recounts a story from 13th Century BC Egypt concerning a son of Ramesses II. That man, Pheros, had been afflicted with blindness for 10 years when an oracle told him he would be cured if he washed his eye with the menses of a woman who had never f~~~ed anyone other than her husband. Apart from being incredibly disgusting, we can all guess the rest, right? Pheros first tried his own wife’s menses which failed naturally. He then worked his way through hundreds of married women first in the palace and then in the surrounding city only to fail again and again. Pheros eventually found a faithful unicorn whose menses cured his blindness, but the best part of the story is what happened after he was cured.

Pheros collected all the women who menses had failed to cure him, put them in a town, and then burned the town down around them.

Sadly, Pheros didn’t learn from all of this because he married the woman whose menses has cured him!

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[OldBillParticipant]

The Instruction of Ankhsheshonq is an equally ancient papyrus held in the British Museum which lists advice from a priest to his sons. A few of the priest’s suggestions follow:

Let your wife see your wealth – do not trust her with it.
Do not open your heart to your wife – what you have said to her goes to the street.
Instructing a woman is like having a sack of sand whose side is split open.

That old dude knew his stuff.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[OldBillParticipant]

An 8th Century Greek poet, Hesiod, routinely described women as a necessity for reproduction while also being vice ridden, economic liabilities. He once wrote:

“Do not let a woman with a sexy rump deceive you with wheedling and coaxing words; she is after your barn. A man who trusts woman trusts deceivers.”

That’s a nearly 3,000 year old warning about gold diggers.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[OldBillParticipant]

Another Greek poet from around the time of Hesiod, Semonides, wrote a poem in which he likened women to various animals. It’s long, but I think you’ll enjoy it.

From the beginning the gods made the mind of woman
A thing apart. One he made from the long haired sow;
While she wallows in the mud and rolls around on the ground,
Everything at home lies in a mess.
Another doesn’t take baths but sits about
In the s~~~ in dirty clothes and gets fatter and fatter…
The next one was made from a dog, nimble, a bitch like it’s mother,
And she wants to be in on everything that’s said or done.
Scampering about and nosing into everything,
She yaps it out even if there’s no one to listen.
Her husband can’t stop her with threats,
Not if he flies into rage and knocks her teeth out with a rock…
Another women is from the stumbling and obstinate donkey,
Who only with difficulty and with the use of threats,
Is compelled to agree to the perfectly acceptable thing
She had resisted. Otherwise in a corner of the house,
She sits munching away all night long and all day long she sits munching at the hearth.
Even so she’ll welcome any male friend,
Who comes around with sex on his mind.
Another kind of woman is the wretched, miserable tribe that comes from the weasel.
As far as she is concerned, there is nothing lovely or pleasant
Or delightful or desirable in her.
She’s wild over love-making in bed,
But her husband wants to vomit when he comes near her…
Another one is from the monkey. In this case Zeus has outdone himself
in giving husbands the worst kind of evil.
She has the ugliest face imaginable; and such a woman,
Is the laughingstock throughout the town for everyone.
Her body moves awkwardly all the way up to it’s short neck;
She hardly has an ass and her legs are skinny. What a poor wretch is her husband
Who has to put his arm around such a mess!

Sows, dogs, donkeys, weasels, and monkeys. It’s sad that things haven’t changed in all these years!

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Wow. That mean AWALT for thousands of years.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Ban TV from your life young mgtow to block the feminudt shaming and programming designed to depress you and beat you down.

I agree!

Good stuff oldBill.

They are classics for a very good reason. The ancient Greek and Roman philosophers are worth a look too.

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Wow. That mean AWALT for thousands of years.

Yep, all the way back to the earliest written works in ancient Sumer.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

OldBill wrote:

“Do not let a woman with a sexy rump deceive you with wheedling and coaxing words; she is after your barn.

Thank you OldBill. Excellent work. You put a lot of time into this.
I particularly liked the above quote. (woman with sexy rump is after your barn). I guess hypergamy has been hard wired into the minds of women for a long time. Thanks again.

[Anonymous 18]

Thanks @oldbill for sharing the wisdom of men before us. I tell you MGTOW mentality was around a long long time ago.

MGTOW is the natural herb.

OldBill wrote:

Another kind of woman is the wretched, miserable tribe that comes from the weasel.
As far as she is concerned, there is nothing lovely or pleasant
Or delightful or desirable in her.
She’s wild over love-making in bed,
But her husband wants to vomit when he comes near her…

Oh man, that flashed an image my ex.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh man, that flashed an image my ex.

You and me, brother, you and me. shudder….

I’ve plenty of exes who fit into one or more of Semonides categories.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[HimeoParticipant 471]

That Semonides poem ends in an interesting way:

Zeus made this to be the greatest evil 115
and put round us unbreakable fetters
from which Hades receives men
who have quarreled over a woman.

Bros before hoes. – Semonides

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

The bible and other religious text.

Imagine the uproar if the feminist wanted to edit these great works.

Essentially, they are. Mainstream Protestantism has decided they don’t like the bits of the Bible that deal with women (such as no female clerics), or sexuality, or much of anything, so they’ve decided these bits no longer count.

And . . . Mainstream Protestantism is currently in its death throes. Funny how that happened. Most Lutheran churches in the States have less than 40 attendees, which is barely enough to keep the lights on. The denomination has imploded. Episcopalianism is in worse shape. Both denominations are selling property left and right to keep “priests” (women priests – ha, ha) employed, but that can’t go on forever. Their seminaries are empty, and selling bits and pieces of their campuses. At one point during my recovery over the past three years, I debated becoming a priest. An old friend commented “not really a growth field, that”.

Pentecostals aren’t a lot better. They talk a good game about being Bible-centric, but most of them pussyfoot around the bits that discuss what women are like and how women should be treated. They’ve reached a plateau, and probably aren’t going to increase any time soon.

Third world Christianity, which cheerfully punts c~~~s, so to speak, is doing just fine. Increasing, even. Imagine that.

We are dealing with biology here. We have not changed genetically since history began – women are, exactly, what they were then. Technology has made putting up with their malarkey economically feasible. That is the only difference between then and now.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

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