REALLY need help and GOOD advice here.

[jambearParticipant 282]

Glad to see you did not take offense to my words. I was worried I was being to much of a dick. Sometimes we all lose our judgment a bit when we get access to some hot young poon. I myself would be susceptible to the same feels you had, but that is one of the burdens of our biology and all we can do is throw cold hard logic against it till it shuts up.

I am not surprised at her home life, and it makes her moving into your place super fast easy to understand.

As for her being ‘super cool’ about being dumped is funny as hell. The way I see it is you are definitely not the first guy she has brought home, or the first to dump her after meeting her ‘family’. This is why she has so many orbiters and proves she was letting them all take a ride on her. How do I know? Easy, she has repeated this scenario several times and has it down to a science.

1) Find a good lucking guy who is reasonably well off. Enough disposable income for her to leech off of. Since you displayed these characteristics she found you an acceptable mark.

2) Come on hot and heavy and give up the pussy fast to get you hooked. Since most guys do not get approached it is harder to keep a clear mind. Plus she seems to be going for efficiency and would rather not waste much time playing the game. If nothing else at least she does not waste your time.

3) Her first s~~~ test. Get him to buy me s~~~. She does not hit you with the stereotypical s~~~ though (flowers, chocolate). Instead she requests toiletries instead so as to throw you further off balance. In your mind your thinking OK we just got done breaking my bed with a great f~~~ session and she is tired and not wanting to go home so she needs some necessities and asks you to buy some. SOUNDS reasonable enough, plus if she sticks around longer I might get to f~~~ her some more, awesome.

4) Second s~~~ test. Leave s~~~ at your place. While it is the most obvious I have observed it to be even more effective then sex in manipulating a guy. Consciously you know it is her marking her territory but what it does to you subconsciously, that is where the real manipulation occurs. First like I said it is her marking your territory, most guys like this it makes them feel good knowing a girl is willing to say OIE f~~~ off my guy. Second it tells the guy I want to come back and I feel comfortable leaving things here, a subtle clue that she did not regret the evening and is willing to repeat it. Third the really experienced ones will leave clothes but not just any clothes, if you are f~~~ing a girl and she leaves on a article of clothing and the morning after she leaves said clothing at your place THIS IS NOT A MISTAKE. The most powerful memory triggers in humans is not sight, sound, or touch, but smell and taste. She leave something that is just saturated in her f~~~ pheromones for you to smell until the next time you guys meet up, it basically does the job of several f~~~ing sessions over the course of one day and with little effort spent on her part.

5) Not make a public commitment but drop subtle hints to her orbiters that she is on the verge of being taken and if they do not throw it in high gear they will lose their chance with her. Multitasking, like I said girls who have been at this for awhile have it down to a science.

6) Final s~~~ test. Take them home and make them feel sorry for her and want to rescue her from a bad situation. If the guy is a sufficiently pussy whipped he will immediately scoop her up and take her away to live with him.

This is why she was so cool with your rejection and gave little f~~~s. She has more men in various stages and only needs one to save her so one bailing is nothing to her.

Glad to see you where able to escape unscathed. Now that you know how they function and what to look for, these woman are the best type to extract a steady supply of sex from. See her traps for what they are and fully fall into them but always stay at the cusp of committing to them. In their desperation they will attempt to throw Hail Marys in the form of sex at you till you completely commit to them and become their slave but since you will never tip over the edge you get to enjoy the ride till she finally gives up on you. 😀

I await the conclusion to this story with great anticipation.

 

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

I’m going to meet her for coffee on my day off, in public. Going to wear a backpack that contains a wonderful box… that contains all of her f~~~ing s~~~ she left here.

 

Was gonna put in my two cents, however Jambear pretty much summed it up pretty f~~~ing nicely, and took the words right outta my mouth!. Send this C~~~ packin, she’s nothing but trouble!, and say ADIOS!.

 

 

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

I would like to add to the valuable advise already given above…

DO NOT GIVE (ANY) WOMAN A KEY TO YOUR PLACE!!!

They will say/do everything to guilt/shame/embarrass you into doing so.

Eventually, they will give you an ultimatum, “give me a key, or else.”

At this point, you can either:

A: End the relationship (NEVER tolerate ultimatums).

B: Give her a “decoy” key that DOESN’T WORK AT YOUR PLACE

Option B has worked for me for as long as 2 months with one girl, and a little as 6 hours with another.

Your results may vary…

 

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

You gave a female a key to your place and she tried to get in with it in less than six hours? That’s awesoome, did she just wait until you were headed off to work and then come over to make herself at home and snoop your s~~~ or what?

I left a female alone at my house once for less than an hour and when I got back she’d snooped around dug up and read an old journal in a bottom drawer under some other s~~~ in which I had written some crap about some other female I’d been with in the past and she was all moody and freaking out.

“I found this…”

Yeah, you ‘found’ that like Apollo 11 f~~~ing ‘found’ the moon. “Hey look, guys… It’s a f~~~ing moon! Well, so long as we’re here, we may as well get out and look around a bit, huh?”

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Today’s nomination for distinguished service award for valor in action to protect his fellow mgtows… goes to XSDBS for the decoy key idea…!

I’ve heard that with all the new home management technology (remote alarms, ac/heat, lawn sprinklers etc that can be controlled remotely with smart phone apps), there is now a door lock that can be operated remotely with a smart phone app. I suppose this is useful if you have a maid that is coming to your house to clean or someone to let your dog out etc., you can open the door for them with you cell phone from wherever you are. This might be a good deflection from some girl who wants a key to your house…

“I don’t have an extra key sweetie… but if you call me and let me know when you need to be here alone, (and tell me why the f~~~ you NEED to be here without me) I can open the door for you by remote control with my cell phone…”

Naturally, you can expect her to very shortly come up with a series of good reasons why she “needs” to get in your place while you’re not home… To which you can reply (if your inclined to play these games), “sure, I’ve been wanting someone to go to my house and get naked on my bed while I use my cell to watch through the security cameras I have in and around my house…”.

I’m thinking if I start breathing heavy and grunting and drooling a little at right about this point in the conversation, she might not want to bring it up again…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[…Spectator 1165]

you gave her a key? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good going genius. man o f~~~in’ man dude. sittin’ back in the chair head tilted back LMFAO.

i need a moment……………………….whew, damn. ok.. back.

for self defense here’s what you need: back up set of keys in a bank safety deposit box. back up set in the trunk of the car. locks on bedroom and office doors. highest grade possible  (don’t forget she’ll f~~~ a locksmith to get your office door opened) but most important if you don’t have the rest: a SAFE SHE CAN’T LIFT. in there are: passport, driver’s license copy, cash, copies of all porn she made with you, extra set of keys to your workplace…

short story then something RE BrainPilot: 2001 i was doing shows in hollywood and i met this one girl. tall blond german stunner with her ugly friend in tow. we ended up f~~~ing the first night at my place in a giant recliner where i made her drape herself facing away on the chair. stood up and f~~~ed her awhile and for the grand finale, pushed the chair over and she fell off and musta come right then hahahahaha. she never forgot that s~~~. anyway, within ONE week i was at her place and she was trying to get all free s~~~ for me that they expect….rides to work, grocery shopping (wtf), me being nearby at all times in her part of town for errand running, etc. so she gets this one look on her face and we all know that look don’t we guys? she’s emotional, loves us, going to do us a favor for “us” and she hands me a key to her place. “this will be great for us, here honey.”  so, i had already seen her snooping s~~~ at my place and i thought to myself…what if she’s got a dead monkey or cocaine or some s~~~ in her place and how soon is some other guy WITH THE SAME KEY going to accidentally show up when i’m here and we bump into each other while i’m taking a s~~~.

So, i handed her HER KEY back and said, “no thanks, i’m not going to be on this side of town much.” OFMG that look went from love to YOU HAVE F~~~ED WITH SATAN and YOU WILL DIE in about two seconds hahahahah.

damn, thought i was going to be brief, so much for that el oh f~~~in el. BRAINPILOT hereby seconded and agreed to for XSDBS for ingenuity!!! if you’ve already given away the key and want to have some fun ending the relations~~~, just change the lock and install an alarm system. sometimes its more fun if the police take them away than having to do it yourself…

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

ListenUp:

Your comment “all the porn she made with you” reminded me of advice given to me, that I would like to pass on.

NO RECORDINGS OF SEX OR TALK OF SEX

No videos, no pictures, no emails, no texts, no voice mail, no twitter, no facebook likes, no “record” of sex (or talk of sex) of any kind.

She CAN and WILL use them against you, with her playing the victim.

 

[…Spectator 1165]

XSDBS: my groupies from the 80’s-current day are all immortalized in my dvd collection. I’M NOT, but they ARE.

you can play this one a few ways. Mgtow Sandman over at you tube and others think they we should be recording everything and storing it for future self defense. where I live we now have a feminist law called Yes Means Yes where now young guys in college will have to get a -wait for it- CONTRACT signed just in order to tag a sorority girl. I dunno man, I think I gotta go with Sandman on this one. Plus, the home videos you make can keep you going! have the guys over! have a beer, watch and enjoy!

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

I agree that recording “what she says” is a good idea.  Recording her screaming, tantrums, threats, name calling, false accusations, lies, etc provides proof/protection for men.

The advice of not recording sex was from a friend/co-worker.  He had just gotten Motorola Razrs for him and his (live in) girlfriend, and they were texting sex messages and pictures of them having sex back and forth.  She’d send him a pic of her t~~~, and he’d send back a pic of his dick.

Anyway, after about a year, during an argument, he tried to kick her out of HIS apartment.  She called the cops, and claimed that he was abusing her and forcing her to have sex against her will.  She pulls out her phone and shows the cops the “i wanna f~~~” text messages he had sent, all the pics/videos of blowjobs/sex, and guess what, he spend the night in jail, and WAS NOT ALLOWED back into HIS apartment.

She eventually backed out of “officially” pressing charges/allegations, but the gossip rumor mill had already destroyed him.  He lost his job, lived on my couch for a month, and then moved out of state.  Bitch…

[…Spectator 1165]

XSDBS: your guy friend fuct it up. let them send you all that s~~~. never ever ever send anything back.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

Pack her s~~~ up in a duffel, change your locks, and tell her to leave.  Dude, seriously, what were you thinking?

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[TrueFreedomParticipant 4]

Now that is a f~~~ed up situation. Once again prime example of women using everything they can to make sure they come out on top.

 

[PROnounDENSEwomenParticipant 0]

I tend to use this phrase: ” I really appreciate the time we have and want to continue to see you. I just feel like exclusivity is a bit of a stretch for me right now. I have a-lot of things going on at work and want to start traveling a bit. For now let’s just keep it casual and maybe I could take you on a trip sometime….? BTW i have some friends coming in town and I’m trying to clean up a bit, is it possible for me to drop your things off? When is convenient for you? ”

TRANSLATION: I know that you have the structural integrity of a jellyfish and am not into your shenanigans, nor will ever be. Now go drive your narcissistic female self crazy picking up every shattered piece or your china shop ego as I am a bull and you just got the horns. You are a damaged little sex vehicle with a rebuilt title and even know i’m not responsible for the wreck, the damage remains.

IN SUMMARY:

Follow above steps. when she calls. answer but keep it short. tell her you’ll call her right back and don’t. You are actually an Alpha, you are just being tested by a pro. Don’t think that all these other guys aren’t in the same boat with her, you are just smarter and have more support……..GYOW.

 

new MGTOW HERE

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

I gotta say – you got lucky there Ph4ze.  Kinda reminds me of John Candy’s character falling asleep at the wheel of the car in Planes, Trains and Automobiles (classic movie by the way).

Please don’t allow yourself to fall asleep at the wheel in the future.  In my experience, when a girl likes me or is into me – you can bet it is because of either my money or she wants something else (material) from me.

Again – you dodged a bullet, thanks to the wise words of the worldly, experienced gents that frequent these haunts.   Don’t be the backstop for the next bullet.  I mean that figuratively, but….with her past – perhaps we should be thinking in LITERAL terms!!

Peace.

ps – Oh – and practice that MGTOW (or MGHOW) chant more – your immune system seams pretty weak for the charms of the pussied-kind.   Meant in the most friendliest of ways man!

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

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