Real reason women expect men to pay?

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

According to a study more women have credit card debt.

For instance, 63 percent of women ages 18 to 24 carried some credit card debt, but only 36 percent of men in that age category had any debt. Similarly, 66 percent of women ages 55 to 64 carried credit card debt, but only 33 percent of men in that age bracket had credit card debt.

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2015/06/26/the-debt-gender-gap-how-women-can-close-it

If you’re dating a woman and she wants commitment ask her for her credit report and credit rating. That will probably shows her true colors. I suspect most women have huge amount debt. Men do too but not as much as women do.

Another reason for women to pay their own way if they can’t afford to date then they should not date, it would be sexists to say that to men and not women.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

How about living within your means.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

According to a study more women have credit card debt.

Well then a little more credit card debt shouldn’t be a problem for them, should it?

If she can afford the interest on making the minimum monthly payments for a $500 pair of shoes then she can afford the interest on her own $30 dinner.

Is anyone surprised women have more debt than men? I’m not. I have no debts whatsoever. None. I’ve never even had a credit card. And that’s not by accident.

So if she thinks it’s up to me to cover for her own poor financial choices then she is sadly f~~~ing mistaken. Does that mean I’m cheap? Of course not. It means I’m not a chump.

[BONEParticipant 448]

Not surprised at all, these are the type of people who spends hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on s~~~ty clothes then be like “I have nothing to wear!!!”

[experiencedParticipant]

They are greedy.
They want men to pay.
So they “act” like it’s “expected” by them.

Check your bitches, premise! 🙂

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[experiencedParticipant]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

According to a study more women have credit card debt.

For instance, 63 percent of women ages 18 to 24 carried some credit card debt, but only 36 percent of men in that age category had any debt. Similarly, 66 percent of women ages 55 to 64 carried credit card debt, but only 33 percent of men in that age bracket had credit card debt.

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2015/06/26/the-debt-gender-gap-how-women-can-close-it

If you’re dating a woman and she wants commitment ask her for her credit report and credit rating. That will probably shows her true colors. I suspect most women have huge amount debt. Men do too but not as much as women do.

Another reason for women to pay their own way if they can’t afford to date then they should not date, it would be sexists to say that to men and not women.

Or hire a “mole” to seek out every single piece of financial data that exists regarding them. Women do this to men all the time in divorces, hence the caveat “start stashing cash now” “Start the cash stash.”

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 3]

This site cracks me up sometimes.

Half the time a bunch of you whine like this that women expect you to pay. The other half complain about women going after “broke losers” that obviously don’t pay a dime.

So much contradiction. So much dissonance. And it all sources from the desperate need for female validation that some on here obsess over but can’t get. It’s blue pill, and you should work through it, but instead of realizing that and making improvements you’ll deny it and lash out defensively. The truth hurts.

I never had to pay for a thing as a young man. Now maybe I would have to, but I don’t date, so I don’t care. Those of you that are older should know better. Those of you that are younger I don’t know what to say, just admit you suck with women and stop making excuses. Get better if you want to, if not just GYOW and don’t whine about it.

I weep at how pathetic so many young men are these days. Not all, fortunately, but it does seem like the majority. Whiny losers that can’t look introspectively and fix their own issues, but instead want to complain when somebody points it out, and have a “safe space” where they can rage like little brats.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

I know a c~~~ who had a $9,000.00 tax return, because of two kids out of wedlock. And has nothing to show for it. The same c~~~ buys $3,000 purses. Note: She’s one of those eye candy c~~~s.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

Half the time a bunch of you

Come on Phoenix, that blanket of yours needs to be trimmed down to quoting individuals and attacking their quotes. It’s not nice to throw and oily gasoline soaked blanket over everybody then light it on fire, now is it?

I know, you’re just making more friends as usual…

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

The fact that women have a lot of debt comes as no surprise to me. Women are as a rule are very irresponsible when it comes to money. As a couple of guys pointed out a $3000 purse is much more desirable than a $75 or $100 purse that is just as practical as the more expensive purse. From what I have learned on this site and Youtube is women like the getting something much more than continue use of that item. The $3000 purse is more about social status among other women than being money wise. Money to women has no real importance except what it can get them to increase their status among other women.

Phoenix, The main reason (I think) is because as men are different with what hobbies they like or motorcycles or cars and what video games they like, women are different as well. Each man on this site has had different experiences with women because the women were different from each other. Each story on this site is different because each man has had different experiences with different women. Instead of being so critical try to read the stories and threads with an open mind and learn. In the meantime, Welcome to the site.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Umm because they’re cheap, lol

As for CC debt I have to laugh every time a business show has a
female analyst on.
They seem to understand how capital markets work yet I bet they can’t grasp the simple concept of interest on their cards.

Anonymous wrote:

This site cracks me up sometimes.

Half the time a bunch of you whine like this that women expect you to pay. The other half complain about women going after “broke losers” that obviously don’t pay a dime.

So much contradiction. So much dissonance. And it all sources from the desperate need for female validation that some on here obsess over but can’t get. It’s blue pill, and you should work through it, but instead of realizing that and making improvements you’ll deny it and lash out defensively. The truth hurts.

I never had to pay for a thing as a young man. Now maybe I would have to, but I don’t date, so I don’t care. Those of you that are older should know better. Those of you that are younger I don’t know what to say, just admit you suck with women and stop making excuses. Get better if you want to, if not just GYOW and don’t whine about it.

I weep at how pathetic so many young men are these days. Not all, fortunately, but it does seem like the majority. Whiny losers that can’t look introspectively and fix their own issues, but instead want to complain when somebody points it out, and have a “safe space” where they can rage like little brats.

I’m hoping no guy here is looking for female validation,
this is after all MGTOW,not a PUA site, lol
That being said I think members here are at different stages of their Red Pill indoctrination and are seeking guidance from others on how best to proceed.
One of the ways to help guide the newcomers is by telling of past experiences.
At least they have a safe space to get over the first phase of Red Pill Rage because I wouldn’t recommend trying that on FB or Twitter! lol

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[HitmanParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

This site cracks me up sometimes.

Half the time a bunch of you whine like this that women expect you to pay. The other half complain about women going after “broke losers” that obviously don’t pay a dime.

So much contradiction. So much dissonance. And it all sources from the desperate need for female validation that some on here obsess over but can’t get. It’s blue pill, and you should work through it, but instead of realizing that and making improvements you’ll deny it and lash out defensively. The truth hurts.

I never had to pay for a thing as a young man. Now maybe I would have to, but I don’t date, so I don’t care. Those of you that are older should know better. Those of you that are younger I don’t know what to say, just admit you suck with women and stop making excuses. Get better if you want to, if not just GYOW and don’t whine about it.

I weep at how pathetic so many young men are these days. Not all, fortunately, but it does seem like the majority. Whiny losers that can’t look introspectively and fix their own issues, but instead want to complain when somebody points it out, and have a “safe space” where they can rage like little brats.

i don’t think this is a ‘safe space ”
or i would feel bad about telling you how f~~~ed up you sound spouting that garbage.
re-read what you wrote and stick it up your ass.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

If you are trying to explain something using a scientific method, avoid using debunked theories based on false hypothesis….you know, like the wage gap.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[LurchParticipant 3866]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

If you’re dating a woman and she wants commitment ask her for her credit report and credit rating.

FICO before you f~~~ her!

Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

sidecar wrote:

I have no debts whatsoever. None. I’ve never even had a credit card. And that’s not by accident.

Same here. Always pay cash. That helps inhibit impulsive purchases.

Jan Sobieski wrote:

How about living within your means

Great advice! Again, if you do that and invest your extra money into assets like stocks, bonds, or real estate, it can reap benefits later.

Anonymous wrote:

And it all sources from the desperate need for female validation that some on here obsess over but can’t get.

Yes, phoenix goes to the core of the problem. When you need validation from others, you become their slave and prisoner. Give up need for female validation and GO YOUR OWN WAY. That thought of being free of the opinion and validation from others goes back thousands of years to the Chinese Tao The Jing. Tao generally refers to “way, or path.”

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Men used to have to pay for everything way back when they were the only one’s who worked and had all the money. Women now earn just as much money as men but still want to hold on to their advantage and have men pay for everything as if they were still poor economically disadvantaged creatures. You can’t have it both ways.
As for women abusing credit, the best illustration is the bulls~~~ TV series “Sex in the City”, where the annoying women are always buying $3,000 Manolo shoes and $5,ooo purses along with all the latest stupid expensive fashions on salaries that only the super rich can afford. Sometimes they have some rich sucker like Mr. Big pick up he tab and otherwise must go deeply into debt. Of course, women loved this show.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

It’s all about money. You’ve got it. They want it.

I could be wrong, but I also think it’s about power and position in a relationship. Let’s see, you pay and she doesn’t pay. Who has the dominant position in the relationship? Always paying sends a message. The message is that you’re a lap dog.

Let them pay their own way. I’m still amazed that women demand money from me. A few weeks ago, some bitch wanted me to buy her a damned car battery because she didn’t want to pay for it. As soon as I declined, she disappeared. God, women are shameless. Vile creatures all of them

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

Haha I make them pay me or work it off in trade.

[narwhalParticipant]

I agree with those who are saying it’s about power/validation. Men generally pay because it gives the impression that they ‘have what it takes’. Women want the man to pay because it shows ‘she’s worth it’. It also helps establish the power structure between the two.

Kind of related, but I’ll be getting a dog in a week or so and have read up on training. Dogs are pack animals and there is general understanding about how the alpha dog is to behave. The alpha does not allow the others to touch him without his consent. He always goes first and decides what behavior is allowed and isn’t. To properly train a dog, you should establish yourself as the alpha to keep the dog in line.

Back to dating, I think the same principles apply. She decides when/if touching will occur. She always goes first and decides what behavior is allowed. She wants you to pay because she’s establishing herself as the alpha in the relationship.

Ok. Then do it.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

Half the time a bunch of you whine like this that women expect you to pay. The other half complain about women going after “broke losers” that obviously don’t pay a dime.

There’s no contradiction there. In the first case the women are being whores trying to get free meals. In the second case they are being sluts who simply want to get some thunderc~~~ in them.

There’s nothing necessarily wrong with sluts, per se, or even honest whores. But when a slut turns around and tries to be a whore, demanding free s~~~ from some men while giving free pussy to others, well then she’s made a dishonest, hypocritical whore of herself. That’s where men have a problem with her, and she should be called out for that crap.

Oh, and we’re not whining about women expecting men to pay. We’re laughing at them. Or at least I do.

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