Rape by… lying?

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Cipher Highwind wrote:

Doc, you are within your right to argue in favour of the present regime’s dictats, just as I am within my rights to defy them when I deem it prudent for both are illegitimate.

Clearly I am not arguing in favor of anything except understanding and acceptance of the world as we find it. Where some may see an undesirable confluence of forces that deny them their needs and desires, I see an inevitable reality that will only change when it is crushed by its own unsustainability.

If we as MGTOW are to survive in this world, I believe we must cease expending our energies attempting to fight those forces which we feel produce undesirable results and simply remove ourselves from the equation. We can not win this “gender war” by fighting it and certainly not by confronting it, complaining about it or attempting to engage it with either logic or wishful thinking. The only way to win is to stop playing.

Thank you “War Games” for that invaluable gem of wisdom.

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sidecar wrote:

Since when does might make right?

Since the dawn of time.

And let’s be clear, when I say they have the right, I do not mean that what they are doing is, in the common moral or ethical sense, “right”. In fact, I do not believe in “right” or “wrong” at all, only in what is desirable or undesirable to me personally and to each individual according to their own desires.

What they do have, and what I was referring to, is the LEGAL RIGHT to attempt to create and pass legislation to shape society to their benefit. WE have that right too but they and their proxies use it far more effectively than we do and many of us (myself included) do not even believe in trying. I say let them pass whatever laws they want… I believe their system will collapse upon itself long before any of their laws make my life too dangerous to bear and I intend to help that collapse along by refusing to be a part of their system to the greatest extent possible.

For me, to hear someone say “that’s not right” is pretty much the same as them saying “I wish”. I do not believe this is a forum for people dependent on wishful thinking nor for those who would blame someone else for their own undesirable outcomes… but I may be wrong in that thinking.

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Stargazer wrote:

Whatever.

We are done here.

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