Quitting drinking

[RedPillBonerParticipant 541]

Going down the red pill road has been positive and eye opening. I have had some rage as well and I now find myself noticing everything and anything about female nature that bothers me. I hope this will fade with some time.

Not dating or chasing women around has saved me money, but the booze still seems to be a snag. I like drinking when I am drinking. I binge and make stupid decisions. This past weekend I was so proud of myself for working my ass off and avoiding women that I treated myself to a trip to the casino. I met a couple buddies and the drinks started flowing. Next thing I know I’m buzzed up good and can’t take any more out of the ATM. Now I’m getting good and p~~~ed off. Then out comes the credit card that I have not used in over 3 months. I’ve been paying it down nicely. Yep a 500 dollar cash advance was next on the agenda. Headed over to 3 card poker where I proceeded to drink more and lose the 500 in the next 30 minutes. I berated the dealer and acted like a douche.

I then left and didn’t even tell my buddies I was leaving. I was p~~~ed off and felt ashamed of myself for turning what was supposed to be a nice day with friends into a disaster.

Then I drove home like a dumb f~~~. Once I got home I drank more and passed out.

Anyone else relate?

[Jim01Participant 6678]

I have spent loads on all sorts of crap and spent £100s on a night out or weekends away….how I look at it is “did you have a great time?” If I did then in 6 months time the money outlay will be forgotten but the great memory of the trip/night will remain so it was worth it. Sometimes they aren’t but those big nights are usually great I find

I am guessing in this instance it wasn’t but for the future try to look at it that way and make the most of it

[Anonymous 42]

Alcohol compromises logic and causes your mind to function as if it were on estrogen.

Alcohol is a class A narcotic, same effects of numbing the central nervous system, long term exposure causes nerve endings to sprout new shoots, when the alcohol is removed these new endings along with the old endings sprout to life causing what is known as the shakes, it also immediately shuts down 500 liver processes as the liver goes solely to work metabolizing the alcohol and creating CO2, the primary gas for measuring blood alcohol content. The yellow you see in an abusers eyes is all the toxins backed up in the blood as the liver is in essence shut down, eventually the liver dies.

Wonder why I quit drinking? These facts are only the tip of the iceberg, I haven’t even gone into the negative psychological effects.

[Anonymous 54]

You didn’t say anything about quiting.Berating the dealer,driving home drunk.I have been sober for 35 years. Its greatly improved the quality of my life.

[HitmanParticipant]

I like a drink at the end of the day.
No bars
No casinos
Must have food and plenty of water.
Sometimes stopping completely is the best thing to do as it gives your body a chance to get healthy and detoxify.
Listening to what mgtower said is good reason to stop.
Alcohol is a disinhibiter…allowing all sorts of behavior to occur that normally wouldn’t. .
Also, don’t beat yourself up too much over what happened. .all sincere apology to your friends might be a good idea. .
Good luck brother!

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Howdy Gents, I have been away from forum participation for a bit as many things in my life are changing rapidly. Until the McMurray evacuation, I had been sober for almost a year and a half. On the second day of evac, I went to a bar for “a” beer. This is almost two months later and I have drank everyday since. I am once again faced with this decision. RedPillBoner, quitting drinking cleared my mind and dramatically improved my sense of self respect. I am starting over soon, never quit quitting. Best of luck Bro.

[Anonymous 42]

BlacqueJacque Shellacque, I’m sorry to hear that, enough with the bad news, pick yourself up and brush yourself off, don’t let traumatic episodes return you to drinking. Drinking is the single stand alone object just as destructive as any modern woman.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

I only have a question for you that I posed to myself also after some negative alcohol effects.
Why do I want to drink?

Ask yourself that, and try to answer it truthfully and completely and you will be in control after that guaranteed.

It is the same question as “Why would I want to be involved with women?”

The answer for both, in my case is: Minimal quantity and superior quality, with 100% attention to danger.

EDIT: The actual answer for me is: Bodily pleasure. What I choose to do about it is “Minimal quantity and superior quality, with 100% attention to danger.”

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 3]

I quit drinking for health reasons a long time ago. I wish I’d never been tricked into drinking at all by society. This society praises every stupid thing and hates every good thing. You should almost always just do the opposite of what you’re pressured into doing.

[Anonymous 11]

I think of all the beautiful days I threw away as a young man being hung over. Lost forever they are. That is one of the few things I truly regret as I look back over my life. I’m very lucky that I never paid a vastly bigger price for my fun.

The thing that really irritates me most about drunk people is that they are always shoving alcohol in my face. My mother taught me an old trick she used to use at parties. She would pour the drink into potted plants or down the drain whenever the drunks were distracted. I get really fierce hangovers always have as my alcohol metabolism genes were inherited from my mother’s side of the family. I last used mom’s old advice last weekend watering my friend’s plants as he kept plying me with drinks. The sleazy bastard puts Windsor Canadian in a Crown Royal bottle so I harbored no guilt.

Since I went to MGTOW level 3, I have noticeably more money at the end of each month just from staying away from the bars.

Good luck, RPB.

[narwhalParticipant]

Drinking is definitely something a lot of people should avoid. I’ve never really had a problem with it myself, as I have absolutely know desire to get drunk. I usually have a beer or two after work, but it always stops there. It’s been years since I’ve had enough to even get a buzz.

All that said, I do have family members who have essentially killed themselves with alcohol (and/or smoking), so I’m definitely aware of the dangers.

Ok. Then do it.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Anonymous wrote:

Alcohol compromises logic and causes your mind to function as if it were on estrogen.

And I hate that feeling a lot.

I went on a small drinking binge one day while I was out in town. I didn’t realize how much I drank (I usually don’t drink that much at all) and I felt f~~~ing horrible.

I’m not sure if I was drunk that night, but I was more calm and my head felt extremely weird. I also lost my balance.

I still drink, but only on the weekends and I only ever drink 2 or 3 bottles of vodka mixes (such as Mike’s Hard Lemonade). Otherwise, I avoid drinking because I never wanna feel as s~~~ faced as I did that day I was out in town.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[RedPillBonerParticipant 541]

Thanks guys for the responses and encouragement. I have been on the fence about this for a while now. The problem is that everybody I know to include my family drinks. I love to sit around with my dad and bulls~~~ over beers. I think I am definitely going to stop drinking for a month and see how it goes.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Anonymous wrote:

The thing that really irritates me most about drunk people is that they are always shoving alcohol in my face.

Doesn’t that sound exactly like miserable married blue pill manginas trying to convince men of the “benefits” of getting married?
Drug addicts promoting getting high, drunks promoting drinking and manginas promoting marriage are all trying to justify their mistakes by convincing others to join them in their misery.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

It just occurred to me how nice this sounds if stated in a plain sentence:

Life feels great if you keep all your vices in check!

I think I’ll start telling myself this every morning when I wake up from now on.
RPB, thanks for the post! I believe you made many of us use some introspection.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

Here’s my take on alcoholism:

It is not a disease. It is just like the sex addiction, in the reptile brain. Alcoholism and other drug addictions, however, are in the MIDBRAIN– Same brain we share with dogs and horses.
The only thing that we can override the midbrain with, is our neocortex, the new brain that makes us human. (We use our neocortex when training dogs or horses).

For me, Alcoholics Anonymous is more like a religion. Perhaps that is why, by their own admission, they have about a 10% success rate in getting people permanently off alcohol.

Myself and others have had a much more quick and successful experience with rationalrecovery.com (It is a fantastic website.)

Their cure can be done privately. It is neutral on the issue of religion. And their success rate is 80% to 90% … There are no meetings or prayers. And there is a small book for minimal price which is quite helpful.
The title of this book is: “The Art of AVERT (addictive voice recognition technique)”.
And the author and creator of Rational Recovery is a licensed drug counselor, who’s available by telephone or video conference. The members of AA, Are not licensed drug counselors, they are just other drunks.

The AVERT technique is to recognize the first impulse or thought about drinking and then use a variety of behaviors, described in the book, to not follow through and drink or buy booze.
This will be helpful to anyone who wants to deal with this addiction, and increase their happiness and liberty!

To your freedom!

HOMBRE LIBRE.

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

MEN:

I do apologize for not initially THANKING all of you for the above contributions and information that you put into this forum.

HOMBRE

[KillmandrillParticipant 497]

Was raised with the help of alcohol, my silesian grandmother used to put me to sleep several times, when at her place and my mom was´nt around, she presented it as matter out of the ordinary. Yes that was some good Advocaat for me when I was too lively after lunch, age 4 and on.
Kept it with alcohol that way, had 2 bottles of local brewed beer (Odenwald) in my fridge for six months, just recently, I had to drink them up before they turn bad.
Had some bad examples of excessive alcohol abuse in the family, my Uncle, guess he liked my grandmothers after-lunch sleep magic too much.
Seen too much drunken people on parties, events, it´s just not my drug.

A story from a party I´ve been on about 27 yrs. ago,
a friend of mine and I went to this place, a cellar of an old farm building, stone walls and floor, lots of people there in a 40m² (~430 sq/ft) room, outside (on the yard) and inside some sofas to hang out on, drinks for free.
One guy we met there went up the really steep stairs of the cellar, he had too much, he tripped on the wet stairs half way (1.5m/5ft), he fell backwards, his head hit the wall first, a girl that was next to him started laughing just to freeze and stare at the guy. I looked at the wall where his head touched the wall and saw blood. All that may be took 2 secs. Jumped up from the sofa walked over, walked towards the guy and pushed the girl next to him away she started calling for help when I walked towards him, too late.
Talked to the guy checked his head and I saw that he had at least a laceration, my friend meanwhile went to call the ambulance. The guy felt alright, he said and he wanted no ambulance, we could convince him to get at least checked after him, he agreed luckily, his skull was broken as later figured.
What got stuck in my brain was the drunken laughing girl down at the stairs…….

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[RedPillBonerParticipant 541]

Hombre Libre wrote:

Here’s my take on alcoholism:

It is not a disease. It is just like the sex addiction, in the reptile brain. Alcoholism and other drug addictions, however, are in the MIDBRAIN– Same brain we share with dogs and horses.
The only thing that we can override the midbrain with, is our neocortex, the new brain that makes us human. (We use our neocortex when training dogs or horses).

For me, Alcoholics Anonymous is more like a religion. Perhaps that is why, by their own admission, they have about a 10% success rate in getting people permanently off alcohol.

Myself and others have had a much more quick and successful experience with rationalrecovery.com (It is a fantastic website.)

Their cure can be done privately. It is neutral on the issue of religion. And their success rate is 80% to 90% … There are no meetings or prayers. And there is a small book for minimal price which is quite helpful.
The title of this book is: “The Art of AVERT (addictive voice recognition technique)”.
And the author and creator of Rational Recovery is a licensed drug counselor, who’s available by telephone or video conference. The members of AA, Are not licensed drug counselors, they are just other drunks.

The AVERT technique is to recognize the first impulse or thought about drinking and then use a variety of behaviors, described in the book, to not follow through and drink or buy booze.
This will be helpful to anyone who wants to deal with this addiction, and increase their happiness and liberty!

To your freedom!

HOMBRE LIBRE.

Thank you so much for this. I am checking out the website and it looks good. My thing is I do not want to like drinking anymore. I have a friend that does not like the way it makes him feel. I think I have seen him drink once. He is level headed and makes good decisions in his life. He often asks when I am hungover “why do you do this to yourself?” “you are poisoning your body”. I know it to be true but drinking feels good. I don’t want it to feel good anymore.

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

RED P BONER…

The site: rational.org is even more detailed than others. The book about AVRT, is condensed on that site, and it is FREE!

I also use meditation, which I substitute for the booze-buzz…. Do a search for: Sam Harris guided meditations. I usually use the nine minute one.

Hombre

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