Question about "Protecting" women

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  • #29776
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    Keymaster
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    Twenty eight years ago, my buddy’s “ex” told him she’d been raped.  He shot the guy’s dick off and did two years in prison.  Turned out she’d lied.

    That’s why “protecting women” is a f~~~ing JOKE.
    Thanks for an excellent example.

    Woman cheats.
    Her husband freaks out on her.
    Her lover says: “DONT YOU TOUCH HER!!! I’M ALPHA BRO AND WILL F~~~ YOU UP!!!”….
    Husband shoots lover.

    ….even though no sex would have taken place unless SHE wanted it to.

    what is it with you and jumping to conclusions based on absolutely nothing in my statement?

    I don’t. You will notice I didn’t make an assumption. I ASKED A QUESTION. Twice. See the question marks?

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #29778
    Tonyc4444
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    Twenty eight years ago, my buddy’s “ex” told him she’d been raped. He shot the guy’s dick off and did two years in prison. Turned out she’d lied.

    That’s why “protecting women” is a f~~~ing JOKE. Thanks for an excellent example. Woman cheats. Her husband freaks out on her. Her lover says: “DONT YOU TOUCH HER!!! I’M ALPHA BRO AND WILL F~~~ YOU UP!!!”…. Husband shoots lover. ….even though no sex would have taken place unless SHE wanted it to.

    Except again the two situations are completely different. Hell a cheating woman is way different than what I’m talking about, in that situation she made the choice to cheat just kick her ass to the curb, no need to fight the other dude.
    #29814
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    Albert
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    there’s a good chance that will backfire on you, big time. You could end up seriously injured, dead, or charged with assault.

    Rennie is spot on with his comment.

    A couple of years ago I saw a white knight step in to protect a woman who was been yelled at by her boyfriend outside a bar.

    Without concerning himself with the backstory the white knight walked up to the woman and asked if she needed any assistance. The couple stopped arguing with each other and both attacked the white knight.

    The ‘hero’ received half a dozen punches in the face from the boyfriend and a flurry of kicks to the b~~~~ from the girlfriend. The couple then walked away together arm in arm leaving the ‘hero’ on his knees, bleeding and wondering what the f~~~ just happened.

    There were a group of about five women standing together inside the bar – they’d been demanding that a ‘real man’ go outside and do something about the aggressive boyfriend but afterwards not one of them went and checked on the white knight to see if he was okay after getting beaten up.

    A woman’s life is not worth more than a man’s and it’s not our job to risk prison or the morgue just because some obsolete idea of chivalry says we should.

    E=MC² Bitch

    #29834
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    BrainPilot
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    Tony,
    I haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m going to go out on a limb here and tell you what I would do based on what I’ve done with situations like this in the past. When I see a dog stumbling down the street foaming at the mouth, I do not get out of my car and try to ‘tame’ that rabid dog. I have called animal control. When I see an unattended fire burning up tree on the side of the road, I don’t get out and go all smokey-bear. I have called the fire department, though and given them a description of where the fire is. And I have seen a guy and a girl fighting in a parking lot outside their car. I did not go white knight and step in. I told the mall security and the local cop who was with him (who already knew about and were already searching the parking lot for them) exactly the number on the plate of the light pole they were fighting near… and they probably took care of the situation.

    And then I continued on my way… (continued on MY OWN WAY). I don’t know what happened to the burning tree or the fighting couple or the strangely acting dog. I don’t think I even need to know.

    I’m a medical doctor and I’m really good at it. When someone arrests in a hospital, I get all involved in that wether I’m invited or not… wether it’s even my patient or not. I’ll volunteer all over that. But I’m not a fireman, or a dog catcher, or a cop… so I don’t go around acting like, or pretending to be one. That would be reckless, and dangerous. I would highly discourage any medically untrained person from pretending to be a doctor in a code blue event either… for the exact same reasons…

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #29848
    Tonyc4444
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    Tony, I haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m going to go out on a limb here and tell you what I would do based on what I’ve done with situations like this in the past. When I see a dog stumbling down the street foaming at the mouth, I do not get out of my car and try to ‘tame’ that rabid dog. I have called animal control. When I see an unattended fire burning up tree on the side of the road, I don’t get out and go all smokey-bear. I have called the fire department, though and given them a description of where the fire is. And I have seen a guy and a girl fighting in a parking lot outside their car. I did not go white knight and step in. I told the mall security and the local cop who was with him (who already knew about and were already searching the parking lot for them) exactly the number on the plate of the light pole they were fighting near… and they probably took care of the situation. And then I continued on my way… (continued on MY OWN WAY). I don’t know what happened to the burning tree or the fighting couple or the strangely acting dog. I don’t think I even need to know. I’m a medical doctor and I’m really good at it. When someone arrests in a hospital, I get all involved in that wether I’m invited or not… wether it’s even my patient or not. I’ll volunteer all over that. But I’m not a fireman, or a dog catcher, or a cop… so I don’t go around acting like, or pretending to be one. That would be reckless, and dangerous. I would highly discourage any medically untrained person from pretending to be a doctor in a code blue event either… for the exact same reasons…

    I see your point.

    #29871
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    Stargazer
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    But when think about it carefully, who gives a s~~~ how much you WEIGH or how strong you are? A woman can dial 911 and make sure you’re sleeping in jail TONIGHT – on a f~~~ing WHIM.

    I’m a bit late to this party but I wanted to add in the fact that not only can a female bring down the force of the law on any man without any provocation or reason at all, but she can also claim the strength and violence of any civilian men nearby. I told this to a female recently and she just gaped at me…

    “If you were to start some s~~~ in here right now, throw a drink in my face for example, and start screaming and tearing the joint up, someone would come over here pretty damn quickly to find out what I had done wrong. ME. Not you. A bouncer might come try to calm you down or, worst case, restrain you until you could be calmed down, but that’s about it. Everyone else in the room would look at me and assume that I had done something to upset you and deserved whatever violent fury you had chosen to unleash on me. And then the police would come and I would go to jail.”

    “Now let’s try that the other way. Let’s say I stood up and tossed a drink in your face. How many seconds do you think it would take for that bouncer to come over here and mash my face into the ground and kick the living s~~~ out of me. How many other men do you think would hold me down while he did it? Do you think there is a single individual in this bar who would come to my aid or even ask them to stop and consider what they were doing before I was a bloody pulp on the floor? And then the police would come and I would go to jail… maybe a hospital first if I was lucky.”

    “So which of us is actually more powerful and which of us really needs protection?”

    #29883
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    Dav
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    Last time I helped a girl being bullied was in 8th grade. I was 13. She verbally abused me when I saw the guy off and I asked if she was ok. I guess it was some weird female empowerment thing. Confusing. I didn’t know it at the time but I guess it was my first taste of the red pill.

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    Constraints_theory
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    You know i used to think like that having the courage to do the “right” thing but you see the problem with that is what is right? and that is different for everyone. often times we act on a whim emotional bias that makes us act in certain ways when we see certain things. you said you don’t like physical harm being done to a weak person by a large person. well i would challenge you what constitutes a person being weak? would it be based on your perception of the person in question? in this case from my understandings of what i read in all your posts it very much would be. So in this case seeing a woman being smacked around constitutes as being “weak”  this is based off of your perception that took only a matter of a few seconds to gather? so in a sense you are saying women are “weak” but more than that you are also saying that anyone smaller than a bigger person is “weak” as well which is kind of silly. a lot of your examples you gave are only one case in one instance you said you would do nothing in the act of a woman beating up on a man person. i would challenge you and ask why this is? after all i thought you didn’t like to see weak people get beat up on? one could argue that in this case the man is weak because he knows what will happen if he tries to defend himself people like you will jump in.

     

    after all you said this yourself “The point is if physical harm is being done to a weaker person by a bigger person, then it’s someone’s duty to step in and stop that.”

    because you have already based your idea of weak off the perception of someone being physically smaller in stature. Therefore if you disagree with bullying and physical harm committed by a by a bigger person onto a smaller person it would also make sense for it to go the other way but it does not obviously… simply put if you’re willing to put yourself in harms way for a weak person that is smaller why wont you put yourself in harms way for a weak person that is bigger?

     

    me personally i dont go looking for fights, nor do i try to get in the middle of them. simply because i dont know the situation and the threat assessment to my life just inst worth the risk the exception to that MIGHT be family/ close friends. if i find myself involved in a fight then i seek to eliminate the threat as quickly as possible and get the f~~~ out of there.

     

    I've killed worse than you on my way to real problems.

    #29925
    Smitty the Great One
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    Hi Tony, it seems this subject has gone round and round. Well now, here you are at me, a proper villain.I’m not saving anyone from an ass whipping but me. I’ve been around long to know ass whippings don’t generally just fall out of the sky, they happen for a reason. Women, lie, cheat, steal, and do all manner of underhanded low down s~~~. Sometimes a female ends up on the bad end of a beating. It is not for me to say one way or the other who has what coming, therefore it is not my business. I’ve gotten beat down a couple times over something a woman said about me that was untrue. Nobody stepped in for me, lesson learned. I have a sister, she provoked a guy to knock her out one day. She followed him for hours cussing him up and down til her dropped her like a bad habit. Do you think someone should have stepped in and defended her? I knew what was going on from all the calls I got about her acting a fool. She wailed and cried like she had no idea why he’d do such a thing. I laughed in her face and told her she got what she deserved.

    Minding your own business is a full time job, stay dedicated to that notion, it will serve you well.

    Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

    #29939
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    So THAT’S what a feminist looks like!

    #29947
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    Albert
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    sexist pigs misogyny patriarchy blah blah blah

    Heard it all before cupcake, we’re not interested in your complaints, we don’t want anything to do with you and we don’t care what you think. Now go away and live your life and stop interfering with ours.

    E=MC² Bitch

    #29953
    Ned Trent
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    Wake me up once you’re gone gone…   … yawn!

    I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

    #30109
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    Smitty the Great One
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    poor little split tail, she has her feelers hurt, and that a shame. I realize you lack logical thought and have never been held accountable for anything… your entire life, so you understand as a child does.

    so I chose I forum at random. just a lil message from a resident feminist to let you know that you’re sexist pigs and reading these forums makes me feel sick to my stomach

    You say the sweetest things, I hope to God you stocked up on Pepto Bismol, because you’re gonna need it. Not one single f~~~, flying or otherwise will be given about what you like, don’t like, want, need, desire, your opinion, your feelings, what you think you’re entitled to, or even you as a person. You came to the wrong place to use shaming language and show disapproval, it won’t work on us. You can blah blah blah about whatever is current and topical on the feminist forums and we simply won’t care.

    Now because you came back multiple times, you are clearly spoiling for a fight, and I’m your huckleberry. It’s clear you have no idea who you’re dealing with, I’m the bad man feminist warned you about. I am a hulking son of a bitch, a proper villain, and a damn sight smarter than you. I can see that you’re getting emotional, perhaps you could suck my dick, I swear you’ll feel better. When you know your role and shut your mouth around here even YOU’LL be happy. Of course with a dick in your mouth when you do speak you are pretty much stuck with vowel sounds. Clearly you didn’t read the rules of this place. You are not allowed to speak, or offer an opinion. When I want something from you , I’ll rattle my zipper. Now because you’re a woman, I’ll have to repeat myself…. SHUT THE F~~~ UP BITCH!

    You see I could go on all day, and never get mad at you because I understand women. You might mistake my harsh treatment of you as misogynistic, it’s not, consider it “tough love”. In the end, trying to teach a woman about things like truth, honor, loyalty and respect are a waste of time. Women as a whole… that means every single one of you, lack the character traits of compunction and integrity. Women “create” truth via consensus, so that’s  why they never really know what the truth is. It is also why women are exceptional liars, because they can re-make the truth to fit their agenda.

    Are you tired yet honey, how about mad? I’m not even warming up yet, I’m still on my first cup of coffee. Get you answer in quick before you lose entertainment value and I have Key drop kick you off the planet….

    Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

    #30761
    Darkover
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    Tony, I think the rules are kind of reversed now. In most first world countries, the man is the more vulnerable one in many if not most cases. They did an experiment… can’t recall who. It’s that show “What would you do?” or something. Assuming the bystanders are not all paid actors, what happened is that when a woman gets shouted at and pushed around by a man, every passer by would help the woman and aggressively attack the man or at least stop him. When the actor and actress reversed roles, no one helped the man. The women *and* men passing by all assumed “he had it coming”. One woman even cheered and applauded the beating as “girl power”.

    So no, it’s actually the man who’s the more vulnerable and since you don’t know the story, you cannot assume. She could be manipulating the situation for all you know or it could be a genuine case. You really have no idea because they’re strangers. If the woman is the one in trouble, she’ll easily get all the help she needs from female support groups and the law. If the man was the one in trouble, then you’ve just made the situation worse. So at best, you’ll risk your neck to possibly escalate a situation or help a little bit since she’ll already get legal help. At worst…

     

    #30843
    Stargazer
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    Tony, I think the rules are kind of reversed now. In most first world countries, the man is the more vulnerable one in many if not most cases.

    This is why whenever I smell some crazy or trouble about to go down, whether it’s from a man or a female, I pack up my s~~~ and walk away. I don’t need to watch two strangers fight, I am not interested in being part of a mob or egging someone on or hooting like a f~~~ing chimpanzee while another chimp tries to bite the face off a third one. No, thank you. I maintain as high a level of situational awareness as possible and when I see s~~~ about to pop off, I just get out of its way.

    Wading into the center of someone else’s self-induced trouble is a sure way to get yourself f~~~ed. I’ll render aid to people who are true victims of misfortune through no fault, action or inaction of their own, but everyone else can pound sand.

    #30958
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    King Solomon,   “He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.”

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #31040
    FIDK
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    There was a lot of good advice in this thread. Thanks.

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