President Trump's first F~~~ UP and it took less than a month in office

Topic by PistolPete

PistolPete

Home Forums Political Corner President Trump's first F~~~ UP and it took less than a month in office

This topic contains 58 replies, has 16 voices, and was last updated by Samsquanch  Samsquanch 2 years, 11 months ago.

Viewing 19 posts - 41 through 59 (of 59 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #413638
    +2
    Trader1913
    trader1913
    Participant
    1577

    In life, logic usually prevails. Not always, but, usually. Does it make sense that a whole global elite, supposedly hell bent in creating a one world government utopia who have sinister agendas and want to dictate the direction of humans, would allow ONE MAN, to just come to power, so easily, not utilize the million resources available to them to take him down in a thousands of different ways, and risks their own power, wealth and security?

    Logic, says, no.

    Do I f~~~ing care? Yes, but…I agree, we live our own life and try to get the most out of it, before it’s all over. Trying to decipher the “code” of politics is futile. None of us are in the game, we’re not players, we’re not even in the JV team.

    I agree, the more I saw of Trump the more I realized that he is just an opportunist. Nothing indicates that Trump is actually concerned about men’s well being.

    The more i think about Trump the more I think that he is a NAWALT projected into politics. All the politicians are evil except Trump because he’s the person I support. It’s like your friend that thinks his girl friend is a NAWALT yet everyone on the outside can see she is a c~~~.

    #413645
    +1
    Rockmaninoff
    Rockmaninoff
    Participant
    1641

    It took a whole month before he started f~~~ing up? Wow, not bad.

    ". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

    #413659
    +1
    Tic
    Tic
    Participant
    4329

    If he can’t protect his own NSA 1 month into his presidency, how the f~~~ is he going to protect the American people? It doesn’t even make any sense. He was supposed to be the tough guy who didn’t take any s~~~.

    Now compare that with Obama’s presidency? Hillary Clinton was involved in the Bengahzi affair? She didn’t resign.

    Eric Holder involved in “fast and Furious.” He didn’t resign.

    Loretta Lynch came before senate hearings and basically told them to f~~~ off regards to how she was running the show. She didn’t resign.

    See the difference. So is Obama tougher f~~~er than trump? Does that makes sense with how trump presented himself?

    God bless peace and freedom.

    #413668
    +2
    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
    Participant
    22531

    Now compare that with Obama’s presidency? Hillary Clinton was involved in the Bengahzi affair? She didn’t resign.

    You say that as if it was a good thing.

    The press is trying to turn this whole bulls~~~ situation with Flynn into Trump’s Watergate.

    This is not a political win for the democrats because Flynn was just an advisor. He was directly hired by President Trump. If this had been one of the members of cabinet, whom had to be confirmed by the Senate, that would be another matter. But, this is not the case.

    Flynn was shaky to begin with and President Trump tried to use him. It did not work out.

    Eric Holder involved in “fast and Furious.” He didn’t resign.

    Loretta Lynch came before senate hearings and basically told them to f~~~ off regards to how she was running the show. She didn’t resign.

    See the difference. So is Obama tougher f~~~er than trump? Does that makes sense with how trump presented himself?

    What you see as toughness others see as a lack of accountability and responsibly.

    #413689
    +1
    Trader1913
    trader1913
    Participant
    1577

    This is not a political win for the democrats because Flynn was just an advisor. He was directly hired by President Trump. If this had been one of the members of cabinet, whom had to be confirmed by the Senate, that would be another matter. But, this is not the case.

    I want to ask why the above even crosses your mind?

    Why are you concerned with whether something looks like a ‘win for the democrats’. Aren’t MGTOW supposed to be enlightened about the way the world works; and part of that enlightenment is that the two party system is designed to create an illusion of choice. Democrat or republican, men are getting f~~~ed over.

    #413711
    +3
    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
    Participant
    22531

    Aren’t MGTOW supposed to be enlightened about the way the world works; and part of that enlightenment is that the two party system is designed to create an illusion of choice. Democrat or republican, men are getting f~~~ed over.

    And when a true independent emerges, the best way to discredit that person is to declare that person to be a part of the two party establishment.

    In the last four weeks President Trump has been working to keep a number of his campaign promises. Those are the actions of someone whom is not part of the “establishment”.

    #413798
    +1
    Tic
    Tic
    Participant
    4329

    You say that as if it was a good thing.
    The press is trying to turn this whole bulls~~~ situation with Flynn into Trump’s Watergate.
    This is not a political win for the democrats because Flynn was just an advisor. He was directly hired by President Trump. If this had been one of the members of cabinet, whom had to be confirmed by the Senate, that would be another matter. But, this is not the case.
    Flynn was shaky to begin with and President Trump tried to use him. It did not work out.

    What you see as toughness others see as a lack of accountability and responsibly

    This is why I f~~~ing hate arguing about politics. People ALWAYS take what you say, twist around, to win the argument.

    I’m not changing anybody’s mind here. So, God speed with your “true independent” MR trump

    God bless peace and freedom.

    #413826
    +1
    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
    Participant
    22531

    This is why I f~~~ing hate arguing about politics. People ALWAYS take what you say, twist around, to win the argument.

    No. I am pointing out that different people look at the same thing in different ways. This is not twisting, this is clarification.

    I’m not changing anybody’s mind here. So, God speed with your “true independent” MR trump

    I do not mean to mock you by saying this. But, I was hoping to change you mind. Or, at least try to figure out why you have such a point of view on various topics.

    To understand myself. When I look at politics. I mentally strip away all appearances. Such as race, gender, identity, wealth. I strip this down to the basics of who is saying what? Who is doing what? Who benefits from these words and actions? Follow the money for these words and actions? What will these words and actions lead too? Who benefits from the end result of these words and actions?

    Once these questions are answered I begin to have an idea of what is going on concerning a various topic.

    When I applied their reasoning to President Trump, most of the answers were far more good than bad.

    #413840
    +1
    Tic
    Tic
    Participant
    4329

    This is why I f~~~ing hate arguing about politics. People ALWAYS take what you say, twist around, to win the argument.

    No. I am pointing out that different people look at the same thing in different ways. This is not twisting, this is clarification.

    I’m not changing anybody’s mind here. So, God speed with your “true independent” MR trump

    I do not mean to mock you by saying this. But, I was hoping to change you mind. Or, at least try to figure out why you have such a point of view on various topics.

    To understand myself. When I look at politics. I mentally strip away all appearances. Such as race, gender, identity, wealth. I strip this down to the basics of who is saying what? Who is doing what? Who benefits from these words and actions? Follow the money for these words and actions? What will these words and actions lead too? Who benefits from the end result of these words and actions?

    Once these questions are answered I begin to have an idea of what is going on concerning a various topic.

    When I applied their reasoning to President Trump, most of the answers were far more good than bad.

    Look, the reason I think this way is because time after time, politicians have shown me to be crooks, to not uphold their promises, to carry on with the agenda of the elite. Look back to the last few president. Don’t you see a common denominator? They acted in ways to create more wars, more blood shed, more instability and they were liars. Trump said all the right things, acted the right way to win many hearts and minds. But didn’t Obama? Obama was one of the biggest lying scum bags I’ve seen in politics. But, people bought his bulls~~~ because he was sold to the public as a “hope and change.” Trump seems to me the exact same product, just selling a set of different ideas marketed at a time where a lot of americans were fed up with Obama’s divisive policies and agenda. Trump has very securely tied himself up with Israel. And, just for that, he gave himself away, even if this Flynn fiasco or the travel ban had not happened.

    The game is rigged.

    Here’s a nice paragraph from “the saker”

    The anti-Flynn ‘deep state’ coup – spelling it out in the clearest way possible

    “Trump himself was always, of course, the candidate of one part of the ‘US deep state’.  Trump did not appear ex nihilo, and neither did Flynn.  It is taking place is one faction of the deep state fighting against another faction of the deep state.  The US elites have been split for a while now.  But since Trump now has legal authority and those trying to color revolution him do not,  I speak of the deep state vs the Presidency.”

    God bless peace and freedom.

    #413875
    +1
    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
    Participant
    22531

    Trump said all the right things, acted the right way to win many hearts and minds.

    Actions speak louder than words. And President Trump’s actions has spoken very highly for him. From his executive orders to memorandums to ideas he has been pushing in congress. He is trying to do what he promised on the campaign trail.

    I agree with most of what President Trump done.

    The one sticking point that I do not agree with on President Trump is his executive order to reascend the regulation that foreign energy companies have to publicly disclose their fiscal holdings and political donations.

    But, you are never going to agree with someone 100% of the time. That is a fact.

    Trump has very securely tied himself up with Israel.

    Over a week ago President Trump told Israel to quit with the new settlements. At least until President Trump and his team can figure out how to cool things with the rest of the middle east. Obama left the middle east a large mess.

    #413899
    +1
    PistolPete
    PistolPete
    Participant
    27143

    Great discussion guys but I just heard the poop on the radio. IT was Prebius that was behind this–he is the one who urged Trump to throw Flynn under the BUS.

    Prebius is a f~~~ing weasel.

    #414207
    +1
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    I see Trump as the last hope for anything approaching stability or renaissance in the West.

    I agree. Throughout all this one question that has not been answered concerns me most.

    During the Obama Administration, the democrats were not concerned with losing over a 1000 politically elected seats at state and federal levels?

    The best I can come up with they were not worried because they planned to elect Hillary and have her start World War III as a pretext for dictatorship which would be used to cripple the military and purge the population.

    Trump being elected has thrown a monkey-wrench into their plans.

    As Rothschild said:
    “Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!”

    From what I understand that quote was stated around a century ago. And the person who said it is not current running the show.

    Leadership by succession usually works in this cycle. The conqueror, the caretaker, and the fool.

    The conqueror does not always gain success from war, but the conqueror is the one to create the organization for their successors to control. The conqueror is the brains and genius of said organization. The one whom sets the future plans in motion.

    There is usually only one conqueror per cycle.

    The next person in the chain of secession is the caretaker. These are intelligent people who keep the lights running, the game going, they have enough know how to fix any immediate problems, while keeping things going smoothly. Caretaker care enough about the organization to want to keep the origination going.

    There can be a chain of caretakers until there is a fool.

    A caretaker can appear in the cycle after one fool, or a few fools. But, this is rare and even then usually the damage is to fair gone to save the organization.

    The next is the succession cycle is the fool. This person does not care about the origination, but the person only cares for himself or herself. The fool can be anything from really foolish with money and influence to being a self-absorbed hedonist. The fool is the one that loots the treasury. The fool is the one whose foolish actions lead to revolts by those the organization controls.

    The worst part of the fool is that even if the organization survives the fool, the next person of the secession is almost always a fool. And a organization cannot survive long when their leaders are fools.

    This is why most dynasties only last three generations. The conqueror creates, then the caretaker maintains, and fool wrecks.

    Sometimes a dynasty will only last for two generations. There is no caretaker and the person after the conqueror is the fool.

    From what I have read some of the richest people in the world claim to to have wealth equal to hundreds of trillions of U.S. dollars.

    The rub is that the total inherent wealth of all physical valuables on Earth is around $70 trillion U.S. dollars.

    Those at the top have literally leverage the the world banking system against itself.

    Their wealth is mostly from over-inflated currencies.

    And the interest is coming due. The way the system was designed those at the top cannot ignore the interest forever. This is why there are so many “bailouts” and “bail-ins” to the banks. The bankers are caught in their own debt trap. The only way to get out is to default on all the debts and doing so would destroy what power and influence the bankers have over the nations of the world.

    One can control nations by legally being able to print the legal currency. But, this only works as long as inflated value of the currency being printed is reigned in. When inflation spirals out of control eventually the currency becomes worthless, and one has nothing no matter how much legal money said person prints.

    To be blunt you are entirely missing the point. Of course they are still running the show.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #414210
    +1
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    Because he is one of them.

    he is a Charlatan.

    It was all a charade to keep you hooked on a rigged one party system.

    You’ll see mroe of this.

    exactly. How is it that people can’t see this. Ive been saying this all along. You can’t trust the man. The established elite is made up of several very rich and powerful families and they play the public like WWF story lines play the audience. Scripts change, characters change alliances, but, behind the scenes, somebody is making money.

    He came out with this travel ban which then got shot down by the court, and now he throws his hands up and says “look, you saw I tried, they won’t let me.” Are you f~~~ing kidding me? What happened to that tough guy on the screen in the elections? The man has a republican senate and house. What the f~~~ is holding him back? It’s all smoke and mirror, folks. Yes, Hillary was a complete and utter disaster. But, trump is not the savior people think he is.

    That is exactly what I am saying and trying to get people to see. It is what May and the UK government are doing with Brexit.

    It’s what your boss at work does.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #414214
    +1
    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
    Participant

    Because thry are hell bent on a war.
    Because it is exactly because of these aholes that so many are slaves to the system.
    I appreciate why you pointed out hipocrasy before but you are wrong.

    Most men even those of us on here can never be truly MGTOW because we all serve the system in some way large or small in order to survive.

    In my view mGTOW isn;t just about the women it is about the system and if you try to live outside it they try to detsroy you and usually win.

    so we ar eright to follow what is going on.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #414247
    +1
    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
    Participant
    22531

    To be blunt you are entirely missing the point. Of course they are still running the show.

    No. I am pointing out how things have gotten out of control.

    #414483
    +2
    Right Coast Canada
    Right Coast Canada
    Participant
    256

    Thanks, PistolPete, for starting this thread. It occupied my thoughts all evening and then stirred me at 4 am to research some more before work.
    This is how I understand what is going down so far:
    While the FBI were monitoring the Russian Ambassador, Obama threw out a strange Jan. 8th allegation that the Americans would sanction Russia for interfering with the election. Michael Flynn called his man and warned him. Appointed advisor to the NSA, he told Pence that he didn’t speak of sanctions with the ambassador, but the FBI had a probably illegal wire-tap on Flynn’s conversation.
    January 28th, FBI informed Trump of their facts. Media s~~~-storm ensued, on account of governmental leaks, while Trump watched Flynn for a few weeks. The NYT broke it, with a vague description of their sources, so Trump had the man resign. The NSA advisor wasn’t to be trusted.
    And today mainstream Republicans want the people responsible for the leaks to be tried. And the MSM painted themselves into a corner by ‘breaking’ secretive information. Only the Democrats didn’t tie a noose around their own necks, suspiciously.
    Lt-Gen Flynn was a 33-year member of the military intelligence community.
    And now I am suspecting that Trump played this game quite well. Let your enemies kill themselves.

    #414569
    +1
    PistolPete
    PistolPete
    Participant
    27143

    that is as good a summary as any RCC—thanks and I think you are right on point!

    #414830
    +2
    Jim01
    Jim01
    Participant
    6678

    To be completely honest I have zero idea what is going on at the moment. From a UK perspective – the media are coming out with a load of accusations that sound like complete bulls~~~ and are trying to say Trump is nearly finished which is laughable

    I am getting pretty sick of the MSM and if I ever had the misfortune of coming across some t~~~ who works for one of the big news outlets like the bbc or sky news – I would spit in their face

    #415053
    +1
    Samsquanch
    Samsquanch
    Participant
    4226

    From what I’ve heard it seems that Trump gave this guy an opportunity, he (Flynn) was caught in a lie and Trump is distancing himself from the issue.

    No surprise the democrats are calling for blood over this, and blowing it out of proportion.

Viewing 19 posts - 41 through 59 (of 59 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.