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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/13/michael-flynn-resigns-national-security-adviser/
Yes the President has caved to the globalists/republican establishment and the howling left. General Flynn has done nothing wrong and yet his head is offered to the left as a sacrifice. It would appear Trump is going to make the same fatal mistake as Nixon…trying to appease the radical left in the vain hope of gaining their “cooperation”. This foolishness destroyed Nixon’s presidency and it will destroy Trump’s Flynn is only the first casualty.
Because he is one of them.
he is a Charlatan.
It was all a charade to keep you hooked on a rigged one party system.
You’ll see mroe of this.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Any president that aims to truly reform society will be taken care of by the various secret branches of the government.
A MGTOW should never look towards politics for an outlet of freedom; because politics is the exact opposite of that.
Yes the President has caved to the globalists/republican establishment and the howling left. General Flynn has done nothing wrong and yet his head is offered to the left as a sacrifice.
Flynn, resigned. Has there been anything implying that he was pushed out by Trump?
Besides, it does not fit Trump’s personality ask someone to resign for ticking off the media/left. Heck, most of his staff has done that already. But I bet Trump was not happy about not getting accurate information from his people. Whether intentional or not, the VP needs accurate information.
Personally, I would bet that Flynn resigned on his own, but that’s a complete guess.
Besides, Trump doesn’t ask for resignations, he fires people.
Ok. Then do it.
Has there been anything implying that he was pushed out by Trump?
Yes his resignation in under 60 days. Don’t give me that “he resigned and no one forced/encouraged him to leave” clap-trap. Such a theory would be based upon the absurd hypothesis that he took the job and only intended to hold the position for a couple of weeks? Of COURSE HE WAS ASKED TO FALL ON HIS SWORD—Things like this don’t happen contrary to the will of the President. Sorry I believe to argue the opposite is disingenuous. AND even if somehow this was solely Flynn’s idea Trump doesn’t have to accept his resignation—don’t you think if Trump said to him don’t tender this stick around…Flynn would do it? Com’on Trump just threw him under the bus driven by the radical left and this is a catastrophic mistake.
I am always a firm believer that the sheeple are told what the hierarchy WANTS to tell them. Sometimes, this may involve the “truth”, and other times “convenient” truths or lies are substituted.
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Any president that aims to truly reform society will be taken care of by the various secret branches of the government.
A MGTOW should never look towards politics for an outlet of freedom; because politics is the exact opposite of that.
Yep bit like JFk oh no wait that was Oswald with a magic bullett.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Trump has to be far more careful than the Obomination. Media and its leftist shills were convinced he was the messiah and could walk on water. There are two things to take away from this.
1) If there is even the hint of an impropriety with any of his staff Trump will ask them to resign.
2) The FBI and CIA were recording all conversations and leaked the information to the leftist media.
He will have a hard 4 to 8 years because the shadow government feels threatened.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
a bbc reporter was reporting this and it genuinely sounded like he had his hand down his trousers, he sounded so happy saying how “the first scandal after x days”
I say to Trump to just carry on and ignore the MSM – they are a busted flush and everyone knows it
Yes the President has caved to the globalists/republican establishment and the howling left. General Flynn has done nothing wrong and yet his head is offered to the left as a sacrifice. It would appear Trump is going to make the same fatal mistake as Nixon…trying to appease the radical left in the vain hope of gaining their “cooperation”. This foolishness destroyed Nixon’s presidency and it will destroy Trump’s Flynn is only the first casualty.
Do not jump the gun. The press is lying about everything Trump is doing, and the press is getting caught in their lies.
It is possible that Flynn willing resigned of his own volition to kill the scandal.
Trump is not Nixon. Roger Smith, a good friend to Nixon pointed out Nixon’s big mistake was that Nixon waited until his second term before trying to put in reforms. By then, the political fix was in to destroy him.
Meanwhile, Trump is running out the gate.
President Trump’s agenda is hell on wheels. The future for America or.
Also, President Trump is firing back at those that attack him. He is not quietly allowing the insults to sit. This is what really p~~~es off the press, someone who fights back against their lies.
In addition, President Trump has to deal with the GOP slow walking his cabinet appointments.
Once President Trump has his cabinet in place you are going to see his agenda speed up.
Such a theory would be based upon the absurd hypothesis that he took the job and only intended to hold the position for a couple of weeks?
No. The theory is that Trump is hiring people with integrity and honor, whom will take one for the team instead of try to save their own ass.
Given last week at a Congressional hearing the Homeland Security Director took responsibility for the immigration roll out mess, it is unheard of for a director to take responsibility, this leads to the theory that Trump is hiring honorable people.
I hear ya Chir, but the thing is there isn’t a hint of impropriety—it is manufactured in the imaginations of the radical left. If Trump is going to walk on egg-shells for 4-8 years he’s done–stick a fork in him. If he wants to fire somebody Priebus name comes to mind. I’d kick that slimy weasel to the curb in a heart-beat. And Kellyanne needs to close her trap and get to work.
I figured (you) Faust was going to take me to task—that OK I hope you’re right but I got a bad feeling in my gut. The left is militant and determined to destroy Trump and I think its a mistake to give an inch to those guys. They will have to be fought tooth and nail and no, repeat no ground should be yielded to them.
But I could be wrong—time will tell.
If he wants to fire somebody Priebus name comes to mind.
Priebus is there because Trump has to get his cabinet through the Senate and assigning Priebus to the Chief of Staff position was a peace offering for that. Once Trump has his cabinet in place he will likely replace Priebus.
I figured (you) Faust was going to take me to task—that OK I hope you’re right but I got a bad feeling in my gut. The left is militant and determined to destroy Trump and I think its a mistake to give an inch to those guys. They will have to be fought tooth and nail and no, repeat no ground should be yielded to them.
But I could be wrong—time will tell.
Pete, that bad feeling you have is not dealing with Trump White House. That bad feeling is what is how those behind the scenes are trying to set the country on fire to depose Trump, and what the response from Trump and his supporters will be.
I know because I have that same bad feeling too.
You might want to read this article: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/10/ninth-circuit-court-now-demands-it-be-protected-from-itself/
President Trump does not do things in half-measures. That immigration vetting executive order was a half-measure. Why? It was clearly political bait for the democrats and the courts, and they took the bait hook, line, and sinker.
Now if there is a terrorist attack in the U.S. the responsibility is on the democrats and the courts for tying President Trump’s hands. President Trump just removed the possibility of a false flag from being used as an excuse to remove him from office.
President Trump is playing chess. The democrats, press, and the courts are playing checkers.
There is a lot going on and we still don’t know the full story – perhaps we’ll never know.
Again we are being baited by the MSM and I would defer any thoughts on this event as it is possibly a distraction from the real issues at hand – and to me this incident is a non-sequitur.
This is a war of attrition. Flynn was a soldier – no more, no less. His political demise is of no strategic importance. Tactical maybe – but not strategic. There will be others to replace him.
And Trump will be wiser next time. It may be a cold way of looking at it but there is really no alternative in a war with the stakes as high as they are.
There is a lot going on and we still don’t know the full story – perhaps we’ll never know.
True–you are looking at this strategically—the long haul like a general planning the overall campaign. My problem is I was always a buck private in the military as such my focus is on the immediate enemy right in front of me—and sometimes I still react that way—BUT don’t miss lugging around an M60. HA HA. I’ll leave it to the generals!
I read somewhere that this is par for the political course. It didn’t specify the role, but someone (I’m sorry I didn’t keep the link) analyzed that one key person would be fired or “their resignation accepted” as a political move which is actually a HEALTHY sign.
( I read it about 3 days ago and thought it was very interesting that someone would call it head of time. “Any minute now” is how they put it. )
I didn’t quite understand it myself (as a political move), but perhaps our esteemed member @faust might. He has insights into this stuff I can’t even get my head around.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.True–you are looking at this strategically—the long haul like a general planning the overall campaign. My problem is I was always a buck private in the military as such my focus is on the immediate enemy right in front of me—and sometimes I still react that way—BUT don’t miss lugging around an M60. HA HA. I’ll leave it to the generals!
It is not hard to see the big picture if one just thinks of cause and effect while following the money.
For example, President Trump wants to make America great again.
But, the globalists and their SJW puppets dream of sparking a Bolshevik communist revolution where the populations of the large cities purge the rural populations of any resistance.
What the globalists and SJWs may spark is a Khmer Rouge style revolution where the rural populations rise up and purge the urban populations of any resistance.
Though, not by Trump. But, by the rural populations whom are tired of being oppressed by the urban Stalinist intellectuals and welfare parasites whom have spent the last fifty years abusing the rural classes with bigotry, stealing their wealth, outlawing their culture, driving their jobs overseas, and importing criminals to murder and rape their loved ones.
If the globalists and SJWs realized how much hatred they have created in the U.S. rural populations whom have armed themselves to the teeth they would get on their hands and knees, beg forgiveness, and offer to do anything the rural populations desired to avoid the rural populations’ wrath against them.
I read somewhere that this is par for the political course. It didn’t specify the role, but someone (I’m sorry I didn’t keep the link) analyzed that one key person would be fired or “their resignation accepted” as a political move which is actually a HEALTHY sign.
I didn’t quite understand it myself (as a political move), but perhaps our esteemed member @faust might. He has insights into this stuff I can’t even get my head around.
It is a healthy sign for such a resignation if three reasons are met.
1. To keep the scandal from growing and dragging on.
2. If the resignation was willingly as a way to take one for the team.
3. If the action of the resignation maintains morale within the administration where the resignation happened.
2. If the resignation was willingly as a way to take one for the team.
YES!! That’s exactly what the article implied “Taking one for the team”.
I read it about 3 days ago and thought it was very interesting that someone would call it head of time. “Any minute now” is how they put it. It was like they understood the game of political chess and called the move, enforcing that it would be a POSITIVE one.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.rue–you are looking at this strategically—the long haul like a general planning the overall campaign. My problem is I was always a buck private in the military as such my focus is on the immediate enemy right in front of me—and sometimes I still react that way—BUT don’t miss lugging around an M60. HA HA. I’ll leave it to the generals!
I was a 2nd Lieutenant in the army – sorry about that. I always had to look at the big picture. The small things can kill you if you aren’t paying enough attention. Habits like that are hard to break.
M60 man packed done that 🙂
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