Please STOP charging my credit card!!

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

What happened to this site? Sorry to see things are messed up.

[MACHOParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I used to support this site because KM did a good job. He turned down offers to sell this site.

Now, I’m paying for bugs and glitches. Features that don’t work.

AI is running the show, fully automated therefore doesn’t need any supervision!… What An Improvement Wouldn’t You Say!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

The latest conspiracy theory is that MGTOW.com was sold to a company called:

I used to think that was bulls~~~. I think KM would have told us before, during or after the sell, but after seeing you post hundreds of Cat Pics with no response from Admin!!!
Where the hell is the Admin? Is KM dead, dying, or in a coma in the Hospital somewhere?
I am concerned…

I just wrote down some final “deep thoughts” on this before I saw this thread.

Of course my real thoughts went to the real MGTOW forum and the cat version ended up on the cat channel.

I’m still waiting for the tuna troll gang to come here. It’s getting boring…

And you are totally right: Me posting around 1000 cat pics might even bring positive visitors from search engines and they are not illegal.

But the troll gang blowing up threads with huge municipal garbage bags full of swearwords can get the site into legal trouble (flagging) and make it look very bad.

The original KM was very concerned about that and on the spot to remove the n-word someone posted and I had pointed him to it. With a big “thank you” to me for being his “extended eye”.

That was around the Spring of 2017.

I once made a little joke about gold diggers letting you spank them with a cooking spoon (which is true)… He PM’ed me seconds later to “reword it”.

I had a sense that any cursing and swearword clouds thrown at people would never be tolerated by him.

And I saw his point. I helped in “bringing in” = alerting him to s~~~ words and fights I found in the forums. So our opponents would NEVER find anything to make us look bad.

I remember the KM in “thank you” mode.

“Thank you” for bringing him tuna, trolls, swearwords to edit out…
“Thank you” for looking after such things.
“Thank you” for NOT starting tuna hunts…

I still have some direct mails archived by default (I always save the entire datebase)

He knew that I would never do anything to break or backstab this place.

He often had no time to post but would react to e-mails alerting him of troublemakers.

Which is why he was “on the spot” ever so often. He knew it was necessary to keep the forum “legal” and attractive to new quality posters. Those who do write better articles than the feminist haters. LOL.

Then came the phase without any reaction for weeks or months… Well, we all accepted his excuses and apologies. The main posters – almost all of us – offered our help with limited admin rights to keep the place quiet and put “offenders” on hold.

Only “on hold” and give KM the final verdict on anything and everything. (I was bashed around by the loser troll gang as being power obsessed)

So, the absence phases prolonged and a special “rough climate” of newly arrived and “intro-approved” social losers attacking other members here, bossing and smart-assing them around has begun to prevail.

No KM reacted anymore and made is disappear. So we fought on our own and the threads blew up to 14 pages or more.

No one took sides to protect the place. All only whined like a broken record “oh the drama” making the one who defends himself even look foolish on top.

These fights would have ended if 15 people would have iced out the troll and gave him hell. But the guy from here, who had to defend himself was labeled “a drama queen” on top of being insulted by some troll. That’s not what “brotherhood” is about.

Well, eventually all quality posters who had enough of hearing “There is no saving it, dumbass” (Troll nr 4)… Eventually posting stopped being rewarding as these trolls ever so often made it ending up in a fight.

That’s when the content quality went downhill. People from outside of here who posted on other forums said that.

Then came the lockout and all of it’s strange artifacts…

The “new” KM came back and talked down to me as if I were the problem trolls existed in the first place…

I went WTF? – and made a detailed definition on and of my findings… I received no answer. (The “get your kitty” thread)

Then being called “part of the drama queens” (the KM is a liar thread) sealed my intention to leave and stop posting content.

Countless occasions more on which the “new” KM gave me the rap he should have given to the real offenders.

Up to that point:

– I never started fights
– I never used bad language or swearwords.
– I never intentionally provoked a member… (Exposing OldBill’s hypocrisy was the first “incident” and I reported this to KM receiving a “thank you” – email proof on request)

The new KM gave me so many WTF? moments…

That’s when the “conspiracy theories” started to fall on fertile ground.

– KM had made 15700 posts – I had made 10700 (at that time) and he didn’t know what to make of my cat pic comedy. He acted like he had seen it for the first time… I went “WTF?” again.

– KM did not intervene when someone who hardly ever posted here called my posts “drivel” while KM was there. KM once called me a top contributor and making such statements would have resulted in KM setting it straight. But nothing happened. The “new KM” ignored me. And kept conversing with the casual poster who called my work “s~~~”…

That flicked the switch, not “The lockout” an NOT “Pistol Pete”… No it was the new KM who flicked my switch to leave. And to leave the cat s~~~ here. It’s like getting thrown out of the house you helped build and you leave your ex-wife bags of garbage as a final statement.

“A legend in his own mind…” I just said above: KM has 15000 and I have 10000 posts. And that was WAY before I started “Spamming”.

A true audacity by someone who only made 1-liners and can’t spell right. KM let it fly.

I saw that the NEW KM wants me gone.

I asked questions WHY.. And 20 threads of s~~~, swearwords and insults were thrown at me. But no debate and no answer why I was treated this way. There is obvious gaslighting and the troll gang is here for a reason.

Now, I am “gone” way past the point of no return. If the NEW KM deletes me, I don’t care.

My decision to leave was totally independent from guys like Pistol Pete or others. I kept posting for 2 weeks but talked to the walls.

I left because of the new KM’s actions and twisted statements. And for endorsing loudmouthed fools with hardly any quality posts who step on his top contributors.

KM made no effort to acknowledge the quality guys like May 5th have brought here…

THAT P~~~ED ME OFF.

WE WERE CALLED “GOOD RIDDANCE” by the s~~~ posters – and KM endorsed them on top.

I made 2/3 of what KM has written here so far and erasing me would give his forum a big blow. (LOL at volume 10)

S~~~ posters with questionable intros and dumb street tone “asking me to leave the forums”… Well it is their safe space now.

Now it is obvious what tone rules here and that lying “trollettes” like Gravel Pit get plenty of upvotes for bashing someone around who saved 5 TB of MGTOW content on his own dime and plenty of time… (And 600 Euros in electric bill)

… and reputation murders someone who has written 2/3 of what KM has ever done here. (!)

Gravel Pit works for the other side. 7 stalking threads badmouthing and ridiculing me. I shut her up now. Wherever she starts to f~~~ with people, I come in and nuke her threads.

That’s one last greeting from the dumb, insane lunatic loser Kraut bastard.

(I am not p~~~ed about these words being said but about a whole forum letting it fly and even endorsing it)

Keep the place closed forever. If I get deleted, any newcomer can do what I do to shut the troll gang down.

Their time is up.

Messing with unsuspecting men here is now officially over.

I will publish my “instruction manual” so everyone being stalked by Gravel Pit can shut him down without KM Kindergarten Cop picking the wrong side.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[firstblood85Participant 111]

Holy s~~~ did you guys just learn about trolling or something? It’s so lame that people, old people, think that posting cat memes and being a dick is amusing. That s~~~ is like 2003 era internet s~~~posting. This site is bloated, glitchy and full of unfunny losers spamming the boards with attention seeking pseudo humor.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

firstblood85 wrote:

Holy s~~~ did you guys just learn about trolling or something? It’s so lame that people, old people, think that posting cat memes and being a dick is amusing. That s~~~ is like 2003 era internet s~~~posting. This site is bloated, glitchy and full of unfunny losers spamming the boards with attention seeking pseudo humor.

Cat memes in a humoristic context were once welcomed and endorsed here. I hardly ever used “fixed memes”, I used carefully chosen and well taken pics. And I mostly made my own comments on them. Not 2003 “dumb” style. But the women here – as in real life – can’t take jokes.

KM had a whole women’s shelter full of 273 kitten pics to make fun of cat ladies who are wounded by our posts and must leave the forums. (This has been eliminated too, if anyone noticed)

Then came the rule from members without humor who established their “new” rules. (While KM was gone)

Well – to us, the problem is over, we created a new forum and we actually want the one-liners, the “no f~~~s given” guys and fight starters to stay here.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

firstblood85 wrote:

Holy s~~~ did you guys just learn about trolling or something? It’s so lame that people, old people, think that posting cat memes and being a dick is amusing. That s~~~ is like 2003 era internet s~~~posting. This site is bloated, glitchy and full of unfunny losers spamming the boards with attention seeking pseudo humor.

As I stated above: My creative phase was forcefully ended by the “site policy” which preferred bossing over debating.

I ended quality posts around April of 2018.

That’s the era I got my first 26000 +1s from.

Now, they only deserve cat pics and meow files. A loud Meow mp3 file in text format…

My quality posts are now elsewhere. Somewhere where admins toss out the trash the moment it opens it’s mouth.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Where is the troll gang?

The “Kitty” is waiting.

This time I leave this page perfectly accessible. LOL.

But page 3 will be gone.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

The latest conspiracy theory is that MGTOW.com was sold to a company called:

I used to think that was bulls~~~. I think KM would have told us before, during or after the sell, but after seeing you post hundreds of Cat Pics with no response from Admin!!!
Where the hell is the Admin? Is KM dead, dying, or in a coma in the Hospital somewhere?
I am concerned…

Well, we now have a way of force admin-ing the troll gang.

Hope KM’s hosting plan has enough space for a slightly growing WordPress data base.

No it would be time to come in and take care of things.

“Autopilot” is no solution for a politically incorrect forum under public scrutiny.

This is not some “how to remove weeds in the garden” forum.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[MonkParticipant 17056]

When a business (a concern that takes money in return for goods or services), suddenly cuts off communication with it’s customers, it’s a very bad sign.

[MorpheusParticipant 2177]

I blocked my card during the no login fiasco.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Monk wrote:

When a business (a concern that takes money in return for goods or services), suddenly cuts off communication with it’s customers, it’s a very bad sign.

And customers have to take things into their own hands.

I made the quarter of my revenue from fixing electronics that were abandoned young by “arrogant” manufacturers or ones that went out of business.

Like private freaks writing Win 7 and 10 drivers to support old but fantastic sounding expensive sound cards.

I now have my personal “patch” to stop my personal reputation murder. That makes me very calm.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, please stop charging my card as well.
I used to support this site because KM did a good job. He turned down offers to sell this site.
Now, I’m paying for bugs and glitches. Features that don’t work.
PLEASE CANCEL MY GHOST MEMBERSHIP AND STOP CHARGING MY CARD

Please doesn’t work, reporting your card lost or stolen is the fast track to relief!

I know, it sucks having a c~~~ in your ass, but sometimes in life it cums from the most unsuspecting places!

There’s other sites out there where all the features work and moderators wait on you hand and foot! Just not here…

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

BlacqueJacqueShellacque wrote:

What happened to this site? Sorry to see things are messed up.

There are more cute cats here now than there ever were.

Google “Meows Going Their Own Way” and you end up here. This site now has edu”cat”ional value.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Random cute cat pic:

aka Thread bouncing material.

Something for the women here.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

“Meows Going Their Own Way”…

… A hilarious search term.

It even finds this:

And this:

Soon, all the cat ladies will be here to watch my educational content on feline matters.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[perpedes66Participant 259]

Hi all, mgtow.com is a scamm site! Mgtow.com has only one purpose, charging the ghost members credit cards. I am not a troll! Only the scammers are trolling the truth about mgtow.com. This kind of scamm is a federal offense!.

A crime in which the criminal conduct crosses state lines. Similar to the above; however, the focus is instead on the actual conduct. An internet fraud scheme is a good example since this conduct can originate in one state and cause harm in another.

Understanding What Constitutes Wire Fraud

Wire fraud involves an individual who intentionally and voluntarily uses any type of communication device to transmit information across state lines in an effort to fraudulently obtain something of value from another person. These devices can include cell phones, computers, tablets, or any other type of digital device.

The fraudulent act that is involved can include several different types of activity. Some of these examples include the following:

Creating a fake website to obtain donations from others.
Obtaining financial account information so that money can be transferred from a person’s bank account.
Utilizing a mass email with a fictional tragic story to obtain money.

There are four elements that federal prosecution must satisfy to establish a wire fraud conviction. These requirements include the following:

A person had the intent to defraud an individual.
A person intentionally or voluntarily participated in a scheme to defraud others of something of value.
Interstate wire communications were reasonably foreseen as a use in the fraud.
Interstate wire communications were used.

Fines up to a maximum of $250,000.
A prison sentence up to 20 years.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

perpedes66 wrote:

Fines up to a maximum of $250,000.
A prison sentence up to 20 years.

You are giving it to them straight.

That’s what is is.

Thank you!

I am still too humoristic about it:

My sentence is: A volume 2000 cat pics per month for as long as the billing continues.

During the last 2 months I only used up about 1000 cat pics. That means I have some room to do 4 times the volume.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[perpedes66Participant 259]

Hi Gargamel, and they will get the 20 year + X. Every single case brings a conviction, let’s say 2.000 US -Ghost Members beeing screwed …..each brings at least 1 year in prison.

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