Please debunk this?

[narwhalParticipant]

Russky2 wrote:

That was done a long time ago, but weird s~~~ was happening when I tried it. It really is the forbidden fruit….

What we perceive as reality, is more about our ability to perceive than what reality is. Humans will assume that are senses are 100% accurate, but in reality they are far from it. Color doesn’t even really exist, it’s just how are eyes and brains. perceive changes in the wavelength of light. There are wavelengths of light that exist that we cannot see. There are situations where our brains perceive color that isn’t actually there. Our memories are far from perfect. Sound is how we interpret mechanical vibrations. So on and so on.

As humans we will believe that our senses are perceiving reality perfectly, because to question what we perceive is not real causes great distress in the body. It’s why modern science refuses to believe that we might not be able to know everything.

On top of this, there is nothing that confirms reality is the 4 dimensional existence that we believe it is. We only believe that because we’re unable to perceive of anything more than this. We’ve only recently begun to understand the relationship between time and space. If a 5th, 6th, or more dimensions exist that we are not able to comprehend, then it stands to reason that ‘miracles’ can exist that don’t fit within our understanding of the reality, because it involves the parts of reality we can’t perceive. It’s like moving sideways in a 2-D ant farm, or how almost all animals have no perception of music.

I guess that’s all to say that I trust must senses up to a point, and trust my sense of logic and knowledge up to a point, but I leave room for what I don’t understand.

Ok. Then do it.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

This guy has more of a plausible explanation for Magicians, than Christians saying “demons!” or “spirits” … get objective people

[Gravel PitParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

there is nothing that confirms reality is the 4 dimensional existence

You make a great point about the dull senses we humans have. There are greater senses to behold and we could have much sharper senses than we do. All of the is possible in an objective, rational universe. Extra sensory perception is fine and possible. There is nothing supernatural about it.

Ghosts and other dimensions however are bulls~~~. We inhabit SPACETIME, that is all. There are not limitless other parallel realities or whatever… there are no dimensions. Its only SPACETIME.

People who talk about dimensions dont understand what Spacetime IS or they wouldnt be talking about it.

Once they confirmed Timedilation with atomic clocks and jet airplanes, and once they showed how gravity bent light and confirmed Einsteins work… then Spacetime was sealed into reality.

Its infinitely interesting. You can’t move backward in time, but you can move fast enough to end up farther in the future than you would have lived to be. The faster you move, the longer you live… literally.

I only know a little. This s~~~ is way too complicated. But for sure, there is no spirit realm. Magic is not real.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

HERE IT IS! This video is a badass explanation of Spacetime. It gives a wonderful visual example however its not perfect.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5066]

Gravel Pit wrote:

This guy has more of a plausible explanation for Magicians, than Christians saying “demons!” or “spirits” … get objective people

See that specimen pushing a trolley mumbling to himself in the parking lot?, he had a demon inside

See that tattooed breasted single mom with the pushchair full of drugs?, she has a demon inside

See that Dianabol Dickhead?, he has a demon inside

See that old f~~~ that lives next door curtain twitching?, he has a demon inside

Belzebub is amongst us. Whispering, coaxing, tempting……be watchful Brad, they are building an army.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Monk wrote:

Quite a few water companies employ dowsers, although they don’t talk about it. Many police forces consult psychics, but again, would rather not admit it.

They even say that there was a U.S. President who believed in astrology! And so the beat goes on… 🙁

https://timeline.com/ronald-reagan-astrology-quigley-aa81632662d9

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

he has a demon inside

Belzebub is amongst us.

the brain has 150 trillion synapses. It’s firing on all circuits constantly, deluding and exasperating their owners. The brain is so complex, even quantum computers can’t match the output and calculations.

You say Neurotic people have a demon inside. I say they’re mentally deranged…. same difference.

I have yet to see a portal open up and a winged angel with a trumpet emerge with instructions for me… It’s far more likely that Biblical descriptions of the supernatural, were actually quite natural… Just saying, I will believe in Ancient Aliens WAY BEFORE I ever accept metaphysical claims. Science works, miracles don’t…

[AutoliteParticipant]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Belzebub is amongst us. Whispering, coaxing, tempting

And He knows no bounds…

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5066]

Autolite wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Belzebub is amongst us. Whispering, coaxing, tempting

And He knows no bounds…
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Just a cat in heat.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5066]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

he has a demon inside
Belzebub is amongst us.

the brain has 150 trillion synapses. It’s firing on all circuits constantly, deluding and exasperating their owners. The brain is so complex, even quantum computers can’t match the output and calculations.
You say Neurotic people have a demon inside. I say they’re mentally deranged…. same difference.
I have yet to see a portal open up and a winged angel with a trumpet emerge with instructions for me… It’s far more likely that Biblical descriptions of the supernatural, were actually quite natural… Just saying, I will believe in Ancient Aliens WAY BEFORE I ever accept metaphysical claims. Science works, miracles don’t…

Patience Brad. The trumpets will trump soon enough.

The instructions for us all are to worship God. Yes I know, we are a stiff necked people who only want to adore the reflection in the mirror. It is our fallible nature to rebel against the creator. He is a jealous God. Repent!

[AutoliteParticipant]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Just a cat in heat.

Then check out the movie “Fallen”. It’s got a real ‘demon’ cat in it played by Denzel Washington…

“SPOILER ALERT”

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

believed in astrology!

Astrology is intensely interesting. I studied it and wanted to believe for years, however I could not find anything but circumstantial evidence… however…

The claim in Astrology is essentially this; that gravity from celestial bodies influences development in creatures like us, specifically our personality and behavior. That is an interesting claim that could be experimented with.

Forget about the constellations, there is no gravitational effect from say, the constellation Pisces or Ophiuchus (the 13th Zodiac sign that weeding out Scorpio). Gravity from constellations is too far away to influence when fish migrate or when horse are fertile.

The gravity you want to research is primarily Lunar, Solar and jovial (combined from the 4 gas giants).

The difficulty is that these gravitational influences are not cut-n-dry like a convenient little 12 sign Zodiac in the weekly Newspaper.

The nodal cycle for the Earth’s moon alone, is a 18.6 year cycle. The nodal cycle for the jovial planets is like 860 years or something. 90% of the gravity we’re feeling (besides Earth’s) is our Moon which rocks, rolls and wobbles in orbit like a crying baby. Its not very uniform in affection. And it’s influence would be varying according to your latitude on Earth, aside from the 18 year long cycle of its influence.

Find me correlations of biological life to the Moons nodal cycle and BINGO, you have an actual science of Astrology and can now go about breeding some more Einsteins and Beethovens. Easy right? We only need to do a 100 year long, unethical double-blind study involving thousands of pregnant women all over the world. LOL.

[narwhalParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Ghosts and other dimensions however are bulls~~~. We inhabit SPACETIME, that is all. There are not limitless other parallel realities or whatever… there are no dimensions. Its only SPACETIME.

I wasn’t referring to some sort of fantasy dimensions, like a Quantum Realm or Mirror Dimension (to steal from Marvel), and I’m not denying what spacetime is. I’m just saying that we only conclude there is no 5th dimension to describe matter in existence in addition to length, width, height, and time is that we don’t see it or describe what is, if it even exists. We assume we are capable of perceiving everything, when we actually know from experience that we are not. As an example, or inability to see light beyond the visible wave lengths without equipment. We cannot say with 100% certain that a 5th (or more dimensions) don’t exist just because we can’t perceive them, the same way a man from 200 years ago could say with 100% certainty that infra-red or x-rays do not exist. We do not know what we do not know.

Ok. Then do it.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5066]

Autolite wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Just a cat in heat.

Then check out the movie “Fallen”. It’s got a real ‘demon’ cat in it played by Denzel Washington…
“SPOILER ALERT”
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Don’t know about the Cat, but we all know Hollywood actors/actresses have pledged their allegiance to the fallen one. Repent!

[narwhalParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

The claim in Astrology is essentially this; that gravity from celestial bodies influences development in creatures like us, specifically our personality and behavior. That is an interesting claim that could be experimented with.

There are other more logical reasons to why people born of a certain time of year tend to have similar or certain characteristics. For example, when it comes to athletics we tend to make competitive leagues grouped by age growing up, setting an arbitrary cutoff date. There was study (I forget where I read this and probably off on the details a bit) that showed that 80% of the Canadian Junior hockey team had birthdays in January and February. The reason why was that the cut off date in youth leagues was always March. So the kids with Jan/Feb were always the most physically developed on their teams. They were always asked to do more, and given more attention and development time by coaches. They were given more opportunities to succeed.

The same result would have happened if they set the cut off date in June. Astrology had nothing to do with it, it had to do with how humans organized themselves and treated people differently.

Ok. Then do it.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

But for sure, there is no spirit realm

But there is a Shadow Realm and it’s time to duel!

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Gravel PitParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

We cannot say with 100% certain that a 5th (or more dimensions) don’t exist just because we can’t perceive them, …..We do not know what we do not know.

I agree that we dont know what we dont know. There is PLENTY beyond the scope of our senses, and beyond the scope of our ability to measure with our technology.

But there is no dimensions. There is only Spacetime. That’s it. Furthermore, there is no evidence of a multiverse yet. We live in our universe, a nice asymetrical universe which is very well understood at this point. Granted, we’re still figuring out dark energy. But all this woo woo about other dimensions and spirit realms (I understand you Narwhal are not claiming there are any) that stuff cant be mapped onto our current understanding of physics… infact its simply not possible.

I get agitated when people start blending sci-fi stuff like that show Sliders into real science. lol

[Gravel PitParticipant]

But to each his own. If you wanna subscribe to Raiden universe with dueling realms, so be it. Cheers! lol

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Demons are residing in human form.

You’ve met my ex’s? Did you f~~~ them, too, like everyone else?

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Gravel Pit wrote:

This guy has more of a plausible explanation for Magicians, than Christians saying “demons!” or “spirits” … get objective people

See that specimen pushing a trolley mumbling to himself in the parking lot?, he had a demon inside
See that tattooed breasted single mom with the pushchair full of drugs?, she has a demon inside
See that Dianabol Dickhead?, he has a demon inside
See that old f~~~ that lives next door curtain twitching?, he has a demon inside
Belzebub is amongst us. Whispering, coaxing, tempting……be watchful Brad, they are building an army.

My girlfriend had a demon inside her recently. (my nickname for my dick is “Demon”)

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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