Personality disorders

[Anonymous 11]

Yeah, my notorious Chad friend has serious narcissistic traits though he’s not at the PD level IMHO.

For those of you not in the know, he ended up swooping in taking over this wench that I was about to marry many, many years ago. The f~~~er really did me a favor as she really is a true Nagacorn and a certified alpha widow. I wouldn’t touch her with a 10 foot pole as far as relations~~~ material. She is my #1 source of intel on what the Wall really does to a former HB8 pushing 50.

He’s like the ultimate control freak with her just like your Tomato friend. He’s basically mentally ruined her via gaslighting and is a total alcoholic sponge. I’ve zero sympathy for her though as she chose that path. I only take pleasure in knowing that exactly what I told her would happen to her happened after she told me she was seeing him nearly 20 years ago.

Associating with sociopaths of any form will hurt you. I’ve a male friend that I suspect has Anti Social PD whom I allowed to steal a year of my life as a roommate. My gross revenue is up 30% YOY since getting rid of him. It took 14 months to get the odor out of the room he stayed in. It smelled like I kept a barn animal in there.

Mr. Man wrote:

I’ve often thought I should write in the forums about my experiences with my BPD relationship,

You should. Like I said earlier, I see men come here that I know have been involved with BPDs. I really worry about them. A BPD will rock your world hard.

In my experience, my BPD first got me by:

1) White Knighting via a false rape claim against her ex husband
2) Mirroring which is where they appear to be your perfect match. They basically just parrot everything you say back to you
3) F~~~ing insane sex
4) The relationship move WAY too quickly
5) She was extremely attractive and intelligent

Idealize, devalue, and discard is the procession of the relationship.

There is a lot of overlap between NPD and BPD too.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

You’re exactly right Keymaster, the covert ones are the most dangerous ones.

They are dangerous because they are the fiercely intelligent ones, and they’ve had a lifetime of practice learning how to hide their true nature from their marks. And you simply can’t see it coming until you’re deep in the trap.

Have you ever seen a bug caught in an ant lion’s cone? It’s terrifying to watch as the poor bug frantically claws ineffectually at the sandy slope, only to be met with snapping mandibles as it slides to the bottom.

That’s what happens to a man smitten by a BPD woman — slowly, the world he knows slips from his view and is replaced by her substituted reality. The way out is not always clear. This is a man in trouble.

[HitmanParticipant]

My signature says it all for me. .

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

He’s like the ultimate control freak with her just like your Tomato friend. He’s basically mentally ruined her via gaslighting. Associating with sociopaths of any form will hurt you.

So glad you know what I’m talking about. No matter how I try to describe it, it comes off silly, petty and foolish…. but it’s truly a form of terrorism. I’m more adept at spotting it now.

Mr. Man wrote:

They are dangerous because they are the fiercely intelligent ones,

You have to wonder. ARE they really “intelligent”??? Because they appear to be (at least semi-) oblivious to their own tactics. They need their own behavior pointed out to them.

Calling them (and manipulators) out make them extremely angry and hostile. If they were intelligent, you’d think they would try and cover it up somehow or attempt to dismiss with a “i was only joking”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

Duplicated below!!!

The Pig.

[Anonymous 11]

High functioning BPDs tend to be both very intelligent and physically attractive. They know something is wrong with them, but they cannot stop it. They have no empathy, very impulsive, drug/alcohol issues, raging issues, very poor financial management skills and no sense of self-identity. They are true shape shifters. They are also very prone to our favorite mgtow.com topics of false rape and DV claims too. They are very dangerous. I was very lucky to have escaped. BPDs are very strange.

I watched my BPD go from horny nympho to frigid and vice versa for no reason. They are total control freaks too. Like Hominid said, they are experts at slowly drawing the victim into the trap and then assuming control. The only thing that saved me was that I’ve always been able to walk away from pussy. As soon as mine thought she’d achieved c~~~ lock on me, she took it to the next level. I was to be her cuck.

It took feigning beta to get her to dump me as my normal John Wayne way of handling things totally failed yet she still repeatedly tried to get me to cheat with her on my replacement whom she is still controlling.

The one thing that really attracted me to that normal one that Chad got from me outside of her being HB8 was her financial responsibility which she still possesses. She is the only woman I’ve ever known outside of my mother who eschews debt and is not materialistic. That’s why I call her a Nagacorn. Good God, can she nag.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Once again CPig, you nailed it. I keep trying to write some kind of coherent explanation for what I saw and experienced, but then I just delete it and say to myself, no, I just can’t go back there. So thank you for articulating the experience so well.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

You have to wonder. ARE they really “intelligent”??? Because they appear to be (at least semi-) oblivious to their own tactics. They need their own behavior pointed out to them.
Calling them (and manipulators) out make them extremely angry and hostile. If they were intelligent, you’d think they would try and cover it up somehow or attempt to dismiss with a “i was only joking”.

They are intelligent, but with a huge blind spot. My ex’s whole family are narcissists. Her mom and both brothers. They can see it in all the others, but can’t see it in themselves. My ex is a very intelligent person when she wants to be, and a huge victim when she wants to be. They aren’t “intelligent” in the sense that you mean it, but trust me they are very good at what they do. Intelligent with a lack of self awareness. It’s pretty amazing to witness. It took me 20 years to really understand it, and now I know her better than she knows herself. Because I can see her blind spot.

Although it is an interesting study, I don’t recommend getting too close. Keymaster, I just wish I had the awareness that you had with your friend at the time. But then you weren’t trying to bang your friend!!

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 11]

Damn Hominid and thanks too!

BPDs are very similar. It’s been so many years plus I’ve had so much red pill I don’t triggered anymore. Mine was a Queen BPD.

Let’s see Queen, Hermit, Waif, and there is a forth sub-type that I cannot remember anymore. I want to say Witch.

After reading TaxGuy and Key’s Narcissistic experiences, I can say I do see it on occasions from my Chad friend though nothing like what they get. I don’t see much of him these days as he parks his ass on a bar stool at 11AM every day. This ex financially supports him, excuse me, enables him. She is f~~~ed up in the head herself just in a different way. Even though she and I are close, I’d never get in a relationship with her again due to her alpha widow issues. She had it when we were dating. I was just too blue pill at the time.

No contact is the recommendation for any of the Cluster B disorders. Though in some situations, one has to go to low contact like if one has kids. I do low contact with my ASPD friend as he has arson issues. He threatened it against my property when he tried to move back into my house last Fall. My Chad ex was very helpful to me during that period.

[Anonymous 22]

Keymaster wrote:

This guy is the REASON I looked up the words “sociopath”, “narcissist” and “gas-lighting”. It took me +4 years to see it. Just being around him is a test of my patience.

I’m not sure if this is considered gas lighting but I remember many years ago when, one night, I had been drinking a little bit and did quite a stupid thing.. at a bar I asked a woman ‘why is it that the beautiful women seem to be smiling and in a good mood but the ugly women have some kind of a strange problem with everyone’

She got angry, took it personally (although I didn’t even consider her ugly) and her friend overheard it and joined the conversation later on and they started to ask me questions like ‘is everything okay?’, ‘what happened?’, ‘who broke your heart?’ in a way that there would be something wrong with me.

They were trying to make me question my sanity because I thought ugly women in general are bitter and angry; that it’s all in my imagination and something must be wrong with me for saying a comment like that.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

I will admit it i am a narcissistic asshole who mostly just cares for himself that is part of a reason i am an asshole.

But when i think about it i find it funny how i am viewed as the bad asshole (my way or the highway pig f~~~ers) while women get away with their free pass.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

ChauvinistPig wrote:

They comprise about 2% of all women and WILL destroy you.

I have to argue that.

Histrionic/Narcisstic personality disorder is visible in just about every western woman born in the last 50 years. Even generally observed in other women by their own admission!

Even women who swear they are “not like that” are some of the worst examples around.

ChauvinistPig wrote:

The high functioning ones cannot be made beforehand.

THat’s exactly my point. The “higher functioning ones” aren’t even aware of it themselves.

That’s the pandemic known as “Narcisstic personality disorder” which the medical profession estimates only 3% of American women suffer from. But there are MANY who believe as many as 66% (2/3) american women suffer from this disorder – and they are completely unaware of it…… .which is actually one of the SYMPTOMS.

— I got this from the no marriage website back in 2009 —-

Narcissistic disorder: self-centered, seek attention and praise, take advantage of people, fantasize about success and power, expect favorable treatment, exaggerate achievements, have difficulty maintaining long-lasting relationships, expect others to recognize them as being superior.

The only reality which exists for the narcissist is their own, and even when they are repeatedly shown to be wrong or misinformed about something, they will maintain their original stance, despite all contradictory evidence, no matter how compelling.

Think about the women you dated and see how many of them had the combination of: mental/biological/genetic problems (defects), tried to kill herself, depressed, mood-swings, arthritic, psychotic breakdowns, unhappy, nutcase, every condition known to man, deranged attention whore. They have no interest in understanding reality, or others. Instead, they project themselves onto the other: – in lieu of internalising the other, they externalise and generalise themselves.

And the madness is real. The narcissist will twist and distort reality to infinity in order to place themselves at the earth’s center. No amount of objectivity shall be allowed to intefere with this. This is their prime objective, and they will talk any amount of nonsense to achieve it. They don’t care. There is only them, and their prison is a familiar, comfortable zone. It has walls padded with velvety self-deception.

As I said (above) the medical community generally says that only 2-3% of American women have Histrionic or Narcissistic disorders. That is obviously an outright lie that flies in the face of common sense.

https://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Devastation-American-Women-Frightening/dp/1424133904
– Book by former feminist Nancy Levant

“The Cultural Devastation of American Women is a factual investigation into the American woman’s abuse of liberation. Levant burrows into the psyches and habits of American women. She exposes over-spending, over-decorating, obsessions with beauty, weight, social climbing, and the hiring out of traditional female functions. All of these demonstrate a rejection of biological instincts and behaviors. Levant exposes demanding, unreasonable, and incompetent mothers. She delves with brutal frankness into women and marriage, child rearing, divorce, hypochondria, self-absorption, and vanity, challenging the assumption that Westernized society freed women from social bondage. Levant calls for a critical evaluation of womanhood in 21st Century America. The Cultural Devastation of American Women is reckoning day for American women as readers of all ages and political persuasions find complete agreement with the proof of the voices of suffering children. By including the commentary of daycare children to create premise and purpose, Levant allows our children to report on the current state of parenthood, home life, and themselves.”

Thanks for the heads up on book KM … just ordered it.

I need a bookcase that flips over on a switch.

Normally history, aviation, travel … then whoosh ..

The Manipulated Man, Fraud of the Rings, Female Chauvinist Pigs, Stand by Your Manhood etc.

You get tea or coffee one way and 25yo Sour Mash when it’s the other way.

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