Personality disorders

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

The conditions that are called “borderline personality disorder” and “histrionic personality disorder” just seem like typical female traits to an extreme. Don’t all women technically fit on the bpd and hpd spectrum then?

[Anonymous 11]

Actually, no.

I dated a diagnosed borderline once. I did not know what was wrong with her at the time though her sister eventually told me a couple of years after she branch swung on me(Discarded in BPD speak) though I had figured it out after googling “Hit on bartender in front of me”. The BPD rabbit hole goes WAY, WAY, WAY deeper than with normal women. BPDs are totally different from normal women too.

She’s the one who finally sent me down the red pill path so I thank her. Stay the f~~~ away from borderlines. They comprise about 2% of all women and WILL destroy you. There’s like 4 different sub-types of borderlines. BPD is a PD that is easily hidden as it only is manifested in intimate relationships. The high functioning ones cannot be made beforehand. The low functioning ones are easily made. I got a high functioning one.

I can see guys pop in and out of here who are obvious BPD victims. HPD is a Cluster B disorder too. I’d hate to have one too.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

The high functioning ones cannot be made beforehand.

Bingo, CPig. They’re not just wolves in sheep’s clothing, they’re rabid wolves in sheep’s clothing, and they will f~~~ your head up one side and down the other.

How do I know this? Had me one. And now I’m here. Ahh, the blessed peace that MGTOW brings.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

They comprise about 2% of all women and WILL destroy you.

I have to argue that.

Histrionic/Narcisstic personality disorder is visible in just about every western woman born in the last 50 years. Even generally observed in other women by their own admission!

Even women who swear they are “not like that” are some of the worst examples around.

Anonymous wrote:

The high functioning ones cannot be made beforehand.

THat’s exactly my point. The “higher functioning ones” aren’t even aware of it themselves.

That’s the pandemic known as “Narcisstic personality disorder” which the medical profession estimates only 3% of American women suffer from. But there are MANY who believe as many as 66% (2/3) american women suffer from this disorder – and they are completely unaware of it…… .which is actually one of the SYMPTOMS.

— I got this from the no marriage website back in 2009 —-

Narcissistic disorder: self-centered, seek attention and praise, take advantage of people, fantasize about success and power, expect favorable treatment, exaggerate achievements, have difficulty maintaining long-lasting relationships, expect others to recognize them as being superior.

The only reality which exists for the narcissist is their own, and even when they are repeatedly shown to be wrong or misinformed about something, they will maintain their original stance, despite all contradictory evidence, no matter how compelling.

Think about the women you dated and see how many of them had the combination of: mental/biological/genetic problems (defects), tried to kill herself, depressed, mood-swings, arthritic, psychotic breakdowns, unhappy, nutcase, every condition known to man, deranged attention whore. They have no interest in understanding reality, or others. Instead, they project themselves onto the other: – in lieu of internalising the other, they externalise and generalise themselves.

And the madness is real. The narcissist will twist and distort reality to infinity in order to place themselves at the earth’s center. No amount of objectivity shall be allowed to intefere with this. This is their prime objective, and they will talk any amount of nonsense to achieve it. They don’t care. There is only them, and their prison is a familiar, comfortable zone. It has walls padded with velvety self-deception.

As I said (above) the medical community generally says that only 2-3% of American women have Histrionic or Narcissistic disorders. That is obviously an outright lie that flies in the face of common sense.

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– Book by former feminist Nancy Levant

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If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

I hear you loud and clear Brother Hominid. Congratulations on your escape from your BPD madness.

There are male borderlines(Ted Bundy, the notorious American serial killer was a diagnosed one), but about 80% are female. Histrionic is predominately female too. Narcissistic PD is an example of a male dominated PD.

I remember learning that mine had six abortions. She had zero remorse for it. I have more remorse for the thousand odd squirrels that I’ve slain than she has for the multiple acts of feticide she committed. That was one of the early clues that I ignored. All normal women I know who have ever had abortions harbor some guilt for the act.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

There are male borderlines(Ted Bundy, the notorious American serial killer was a diagnosed one), but about 80% are female. Histrionic is predominately female too. Narcissistic PD is an example of a male dominated PD.

Concur. Sociopathic behavior & narcissism used to be predominantly male trait, but it isn’t anymore.

(apolz my replies appeared to come from another user at first. Just testing out other areas of the site logged in as another user. I forgot to switch back.)

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

@Key: There is a difference between a trait and a full blown PD. I agree nearly all women are narcissistic/histrionic. Experiencing a borderline is kind of like seeing a UFO, you really can’t describe it to those who have not experienced it. That’s cool. I know the power of root.

An NPD male and a BPD female are capable of creating an incredibly dysfunctional relationship. They feed off of each others’ disorders.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

@Key: There is a difference between a trait and a full blown PD. I agree nearly all women are narcissistic. Experiencing a borderline is kind of like seeing a UFO, you really can’t describe it to those who have not experienced it.

Yes, was not really disagreeing there.

And in all of my travels, I have only encountered ONE whom I would qualify as “full blown” — and this is my opinion only — but I would put the undiagnosed % at +75% (3 out of 4) which I would call virtually intolerable and danger zone. Certainly impossible to live and deal with on a daily basis. Including female “friends”.

Maybe not out of the gate, but the same sweethearts can get ugly to a point I would never want to see the limits of.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

I knew mine for 8 f~~~ing years before getting involved.

The first weird thing that ever happened was the first time we had sex. I flipped her over after she was riding me on top, and she says the name of a large Southeastern US city.

All normal women are challenging and f~~~ed up in the head though.

FYI: I never get offended when people disagree with me. Hell, I learn new things.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

I agree. Pretty much all women in my generation are narcissistic c~~~s. I even remember watching this video and reacting the same way the interview reacted:

All of the women in my family behave this way. They think they’re “perfect little snowflakes” with no flaws what so ever.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[Anonymous 11]

Narcissistic is the norm for women.

Women never have to worry about me going out of my way opening doors for them. I treat them exactly like I would a man in that department.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Experiencing a borderline is kind of like seeing a UFO, you really can’t describe it to those who have not experienced it.

Holy s~~~ CPig, that’s the perfect way to describe what it’s like living with one of these creatures.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Narcissistic is the norm for women.

I ask myself….

How many women do I know who I have a “normal” conversation with – like a man – where she will not feel some need to be ALWAYS RIGHT about everything …. even in the face of other blatant evidence no matter how compelling. How many women do I know who ask a question to learn something before making up and believing some imagined s~~~ in her head? How many women do I know who don’t place themselves at the earth’s center in all situations.

1 in 4. Tops. And I’m being generous.

No, they are not going to “destroy” you or go full postal, but on a daily basis, your serenity is through.

Anthony’s video is a hilarious example.
Just throw one random dart and you’ll hit 2 of them.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

I got that comparison from my actual life experience. I had multiple UFO experiences right before I got involved with my borderline. People thought I was crazy in both cases. She’s not like that they would say. My main doubters on the UFO thing had experiences of their own.

I’ve actual video from one of my UFO experiences so I know I’m not crazy. That was one insane year for me is all I can say. Seeing real UFOs and dating borderlines will seriously make you question yourself.

Keymaster wrote:

How many women do I know who I have a “normal” conversation with – like a man – where she will not feel some need to be ALWAYS RIGHT about everything

Man, you’re doing better than me in that department. They do think they are ALWAYS RIGHT. TaxGuy’s ex was arguing with him about a picture being not level after a laser proved it was.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I hear you CPig. There’s a big difference between a typical girl with a princess syndrome and a full blow narcissist. I’ve dated plenty of princesses, but unfortunately married the full blown narcissist. Go back to our earlier conversation where she KNEW that she could see what was level better than a laser level. Narcissism is a spectrum, so I can see where most women have some form of narcissistic disorder but only a few percent are full blown. My ex is the worst I have ever seen, by far.

What I find funny about my ex is her boyfriend. He sat there and watched her threaten to lie in court about me to get her “fair share”. What makes him think she wouldn’t do the same to him is beyond me. You’ve seen your future dips~~~, and it isn’t pretty.

I had to read several books on how to deal with a narcissist to figure out how to handle her. I’m currently living for the day when our youngest goes off to college and I don’t have to deal with her on a daily basis. I plan on moving to a different city at that time if she doesn’t move first.

My current strategy is to keep things just about the kids and as light as possible. Kill her with kindness and throw in a few jokes here and there. And anytime she makes a lame monkey branching attempt back to me I just remind her how bad we were together. She hasn’t tried that in months, so hopefully she’s figured that one out.

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 11]

@taxguy: Funny you pop in right as I was editing my reply entering something we discussed in another thread.

It took me 2.5 years to shake my borderline. She kept wanting to cheat on my replacement with me. I’m better off not knowing her c~~~ count.

I often wonder how many men go MGTOW after experiencing PD women.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

will seriously make you question yourself.

I can even speak of a male example. He is a MASTER of this s~~~, but that’s giving him too much credit, because he doesn’t even know he’s doing it. He Gaslights like nobody I ever met. I can no longer stand to spend ANY time with him (especially since he got married). He will conjure up ANY REALITY – no matter how untrue – before he asks a question.

EXAMPLE:

“I thought you would……” ( he says it all the time )

• “I thought you would like more tomatoes on your hamburger”.
• “I thought you would be interest in that…. “.
• “What do you mean you don’t like that…. I thought you would.”.
• “I thought you would like to go eat here…. “.
• “I thought you were free tonight….. “.

ME: “You THOUGHT? You can ASK if you have question.”

He’s a control freaking MONSTER right down to the cheeseburger he ordered for me with double tomatoes. I don’t even like tomatoes on a burger.

Seems like a really small thing, but it it’s a major problem, and I don’t care what kind of diagnosis a professional would give him because he appears to be outwardly sane. I consider him DANGEROUS to spend any time with. And then when you point it out to him, he gaslights like it’s all in your imagination.

This guy is the REASON I looked up the words “sociopath”, “narcissist” and “gas-lighting”. It took me +4 years to see it. Just being around him is a test of my patience.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I was editing too and you beat me to the punch.

The worst thing about the borderlines is they hate that you don’t want them. It only makes them want you worse. By the way, it has nothing to do with you, it’s just the fact that someone, anyone, doesn’t want them.

I’ve told this story before, but one time I bought two shirts. I was trying them on for my daughters because I really didn’t care what the ex thought of them. But she came in anyway. The first shirt she says “That shirt looks good on you”. the second shirt she says “You look like s~~~ in that shirt”. When I told her it was rude to compliment the shirt but say that I looked like s~~~, she tried to tell me that there was no difference and I was being too sensitive. But tell a woman “Those pants are amazing! Your fat ass doesn’t look fat in those” and “Your fat ass looks even more fat in those pants” and see what kind of hell you land in.

Order the good wine

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

I’ve often thought I should write in the forums about my experiences with my BPD relationship, in the hopes that it might save a man or two from the same fate that fell on me. But it’s been three years since I escaped, and dammit, that’s not enough time passed to want to revisit all that s~~~ again.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Mr. Man wrote:

I’ve often thought I should write in the forums about my experiences with my BPD relationship, in the hopes that it might save a man or two from the same fate that fell on me.

I would be very interested in reading that, because I wasn’t even AWARE there’s a name for it or what to look for. I actually watched the old Ingrid Bergman movie to study “gas lighting” as a manipulation technique which is more common than I even imagined.

Mr. Man wrote:

But it’s been three years since I escaped, and dammit, that’s not enough time passed to want to revisit all that s~~~ again.

Don’t blame you. Since I aggressively looked into it I actually “saved myself” from getting into an association that didn’t feel right from the start. I knew what was going on.

OVERT personality disorders I can handle.

But you can’t be too prepared for COVERT cases because they look innocent themselves.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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