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It’s weird, I’m about to enter my thirties, I know my sex drive is nowhere near dried up, and yet I already think even paying for sex is too much of a hassle and not worth the money. Funny thing is, I know eventually I’ll get bored of jacking off, nevermind what kind of porn I watch. Maybe I’m just too lazy, maybe too many red pills, who knows for sure, but I already decided I’m done with prostitutes. The problem is, what do I do when I get tired of jacking off? My current financial situation prevents me from “just getting a doll”, which now that I think about it, annoys me a bit, as if every guy either has the financial means or is in the right situation or place in his life to just up and buy one no problems. I KNOW it’s better than a woman, obviously, but it’s still not as simple as just “getting” one.
I think some companies have financing plans for dolls. They may also offer you future deals on parts you can interchange, like the faces/heads, and hairstyles. I am a few years further away from you and the sex drive hasnt weakened that much for me, but i exercise and take supplements that keep my glands producing hormones and whatnot. There are also inbetweener things that may work for you, silicone helpers that arent full body dolls, and such. Male masturbator aids that can work pretty well when combined with the type of porn that is appealing to you. Just search amazon to get an idea of other stuff out there.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
You know what happens when you legalize prostitution? Less men are going to want to do it. Here is my reasoning.
If there is one thing a man gets from sex it is the thrill of it. Make it like getting and oil change, and your not going to care if you start change that oil every 15,000 miles or 6 months. Whatever comes last.
It becomes a cheap novelty when what men are and have been always looking for is a companion. Sex is strong motivator yea. But it’s the urning for completion that makes men hunger for it to the point of putting up with the crap that men deal with today.
It almost becomes a clinical thing. No fun involved or want. That is the problem when men never find the spark they are looking for.
It also drives the Red Pills home.
Seriously, prostitution is actually the thing that leads more women into marriage. (at least in countries without drugs problems) For some women it just clicks how stupid the life is. And when they see their sisters, their freinds in marriages where the man takes care of them, the kids, the holidays, all that jazz. They sort of find out the life of a prostitute is an empty one.
Men on the other hand go through some different stages. Why bother with a woman who is going to treat you like s~~~ when married when you can just keep getting treated like a hot hatch at all times. These women notice your clothes, the way you keep yourself, the little things you do to stay fit etc. And there is no pressure to satisfy. It almost becomes just like some of you said. A healthy massage.
THe problem is, if the Society does not value marriage, or she is not constantly reminded about how lucky she is looking at others who are doing without? Then all of it goes down hill.
Honestly, prostitution is a beneficial positive for society. Its one of the reasons why Pimps make so much good money, they keep the business profitable. Mentor the women, and help them understand why they are doing what they are doing. Its sounds dirty when you look at it from our point of view. But the truth is, we see it that way since women took over the profesion. When drugs become the prime motive. And when it stopped being a service for good times. But the desperate and lonely image put on it by Married women.
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I support the idea of men investing their money in things that give back to them with out costing them the stability that they enjoy in life, But if you want to go as far as to get a sex doll or pocket pussy, why not just travel abroad?, i mean you already are signaling that you have more than 2k in spendable income.
It pays to know people abroad that can hook you up with local girls in another country, its far cheaper and less expensive for your wallet and your mind, also never give a girl you are f~~~ing with your address, social security number or your real name, you never want to let these bitches even those in other countries to have that kind of personal information about you.
Far easier to go GHOST in a country that is not yours where nobody knows you, than a regulated country like the U.S. where they know when and where you took your last s~~~.2 grand on one temporary vacation versus 2 grand on a doll that will last you decades. Apples and oranges.
Now the stds you pick up over there, they may be in fact, permanent.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
You know what happens when you legalize prostitution? Less men are going to want to do it. Here is my reasoning.
If there is one thing a man gets from sex it is the thrill of it. Make it like getting and oil change, and your not going to care if you start change that oil every 15,000 miles or 6 months. Whatever comes last.
It becomes a cheap novelty when what men are and have been always looking for is a companion. Sex is strong motivator yea. But it’s the urning for completion that makes men hunger for it to the point of putting up with the crap that men deal with today.
It almost becomes a clinical thing. No fun involved or want. That is the problem when men never find the spark they are looking for.
It also drives the Red Pills home.
Seriously, prostitution is actually the thing that leads more women into marriage. (at least in countries without drugs problems) For some women it just clicks how stupid the life is. And when they see their sisters, their freinds in marriages where the man takes care of them, the kids, the holidays, all that jazz. They sort of find out the life of a prostitute is an empty one.
Men on the other hand go through some different stages. Why bother with a woman who is going to treat you like s~~~ when married when you can just keep getting treated like a hot hatch at all times. These women notice your clothes, the way you keep yourself, the little things you do to stay fit etc. And there is no pressure to satisfy. It almost becomes just like some of you said. A healthy massage.
THe problem is, if the Society does not value marriage, or she is not constantly reminded about how lucky she is looking at others who are doing without? Then all of it goes down hill.
Honestly, prostitution is a beneficial positive for society. Its one of the reasons why Pimps make so much good money, they keep the business profitable. Mentor the women, and help them understand why they are doing what they are doing. Its sounds dirty when you look at it from our point of view. But the truth is, we see it that way since women took over the profesion. When drugs become the prime motive. And when it stopped being a service for good times. But the desperate and lonely image put on it by Married women.I kind of disagree. If this were true no man would get married. Marriage is for exclusive access to one vagina, presumably when you want it , as no man gets married to not have sex. He can somehow get a thrill for having sex with the same pussy as much as he wants for decades. When its done wilingly the behavior doesnt lessen.
No, a better argument would be if society forced men to visit prostitutes regularly and spend money on them, then more men would want to visit them less and do what they could to avoid them.. When people are forced to do things, even things they would have done voluntarily, the natural objection to doing something regardless of your wishes, causes an appropriate f~~~ you response to be generated.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
A whore is safe where brothels are legalized. The expensive ones do regular checkups. Anywhere else, you are aiming blindly to get a disease.
A whore is safe where brothels are legalized. The expensive ones do regular checkups. Anywhere else, you are aiming blindly to get a disease.
And women are pathological liars, why trust one who says what you want to hear? Yup, clean bill of health down there, 500 bucks, please.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
A whore is safe where brothels are legalized. The expensive ones do regular checkups. Anywhere else, you are aiming blindly to get a disease.
And women are pathological liars, why trust one who says what you want to hear? Yup, clean bill of health down there, 500 bucks, please.
I forgot to add that it is still risky but less risky than illegal joints. And haven’t given much thought about it.
Men are biologically wired to be gratified by sex because if we were not the species would struggle to reproduce -we would run away from women’s grasping nature. Sex makes us feel better about everything. A whore is going to be a better way of tricking your biological drive than a sex doll ever could be because a whore is a real woman who smells real and talks to you and does things spontaniously without you having to move her limbs. You have an interaction with a whore.
I could never see myself getting a sex doll because the physical sensation is only one part of sex. Remember when you first started having sex how different it was from masturbation because it involved another person letting you get right inside her and (you hoped) wanting you to? A doll cannot give you this.
I always tell myself that sex with a whore is not real sex because you are just emptying yourself into a rubber sheath and she is only there because you paid her. It is the palest shadow of sex with a woman who loves you and wants to bear your children. This has successfully kept me away from whores for over a decade now. I would not however criticise any man who enjoyed whores so long as he could afford it without weakening his resources substantially. There are risks to anything in life and if whores are making you feel good in yourself then they are going to be worth paying.
The one true hold women have over us is our great desire -almost need- for sex and the way it makes us feel better men inside. I don’t think we can avoid this with dolls. It is just a fact of life. Society is just f~~~ed because women are more equal than men and are unaccountable and can treat men like s~~~. Its a bummer to have to generally avoid them but I don’t see sex dolls changing this.
I totally agree that paying whores perpetuates the female hold over men and gives some of the most worthless and vain females a luxury life. It is better not to pay them because you will leaved with your resources weakened and they will leave strengthened. But if you must then you must.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
Jack Reacher: You’re old enough to drive?
Sandy: I’m old enough to do a lot of things.
Jack Reacher: I’m on a budget, Sandy.
Sandy: [perplexed] What?
Jack Reacher: I can’t afford you.
Sandy: I’m not a hooker.
Jack Reacher: Oh, then I *really* can’t afford you… what I mean is, the cheapest woman tends to be the one you pay for.
Sandy: [stands up, angrily] I am *not* a hooker!
Jack Reacher: Well, a hooker would get the joke.
Men are biologically wired to be gratified by sex because if we were not the species would struggle to reproduce -we would run away from women’s grasping nature. Sex makes us feel better about everything. A whore is going to be a better way of tricking your biological drive than a sex doll ever could be because a whore is a real woman who smells real and talks to you and does things spontaniously without you having to move her limbs. You have an interaction with a whore.
I could never see myself getting a sex doll because the physical sensation is only one part of sex. Remember when you first started having sex how different it was from masturbation because it involved another person letting you get right inside her and (you hoped) wanting you to? A doll cannot give you this.
I always tell myself that sex with a whore is not real sex because you are just emptying yourself into a rubber sheath and she is only there because you paid her. It is the palest shadow of sex with a woman who loves you and wants to bear your children. This has successfully kept me away from whores for over a decade now. I would not however criticise any man who enjoyed whores so long as he could afford it without weakening his resources substantially. There are risks to anything in life and if whores are making you feel good in yourself then they are going to be worth paying.
The one true hold women have over us is our great desire -almost need- for sex and the way it makes us feel better men inside. I don’t think we can avoid this with dolls. It is just a fact of life. Society is just f~~~ed because women are more equal than men and are unaccountable and can treat men like s~~~. Its a bummer to have to generally avoid them but I don’t see sex dolls changing this.
I totally agree that paying whores perpetuates the female hold over men and gives some of the most worthless and vain females a luxury life. It is better not to pay them because you will leaved with your resources weakened and they will leave strengthened. But if you must then you must.I have never ever said sex dolls alone. I say sex dolls, with your favorite porn, that does work.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Anonymous12As I become more and more Red Pill the idea of paying for sex is also becoming less appealing. I have paid for sex since I was 17, even lost my virginity to a whore. After spending time on a Prostitution forum, I can see that the majority of these women hate men and also have power complex among other things.
I agree that paying them is appeasing their egos. It is still better than trying to get it for free if you need sex though.
I’m not sure if being “allowed” to bang the pussy of an attractive woman is really a good thing.
I know I enjoy it when I do, but it does seem to bring me down afterward because I feel I’ve had to do something to “earn” the privilege one way or another.
I’m not sure if it would be any better to be a typical Chad and have lots of women throwing themselves at me, either.
Each “getting lucky” scenario leads to potential entrapment and other social pressures.
Masturbation very rarely leaves me feeling guilty of anything but being selfish.
I’ve noticed since I stopped seeking validation from women and others, I’ve been seen as more desirable to them, and that doesn’t bother me at all.
I think picking up women in non-western countries is more fulfilling and far less costly.
You get the satisfaction of the conquest and none of the pussy-begging bulls~~~ that goes with western women.
Well…it is. I don’t have a problem with this. Is paying a woman to blow me or spread her legs for me any different than paying someone to give me a massage, mow my lawn, or detail my car? She’s just providing a service for compensation, the amount of which is agreed upon up front. I’m far more ok with that than the scam of marriage.
It’s about as SIMPLE as that. As far as validating her, or putting her on a pedestal, or whatever; I think that ALL of THAT may mean something within the confines of a relationship, but doesn’t hold much water in an interaction that probably takes no more than 30 – 60 MINUTES.
As far as dolls being better. Well, they are cheaper in the long run, and jerking off is free. So, it seems to me to be more of a PERSONAL PREFERENCE as compared to anything else.
If ya want to “date” in it’s many varied forms then do that. I f you want a doll, buy one. IF YOU WANT TO DO WHATEVER, short of marriage/cohabitation/relationships, to satisfy YOUR BIOLOGICAL DRIVES then that’s UP TO YOU !!
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Sex IS a Biological Drive of EVERY animal species.
EVERYONE pays for Sex with a Woman either directly through a prostitute, or indirectly through purchasing and providing for some form of girlfriend or wife. There are NO Free Rides. Everyone pays one way or the other, sooner or later.
Even the Chads still pay for it with THEIR time, energy, effort in various forms such as: dates, dinners, drinks,texts, calls, emails, etc. etc. etc.You are not safe from lies is she chooses to lie about you. You are not safe from blackmail. You are not safe from bipolar psycho drama possibly occurring. You are not safe from her getting pregnant and coming after you for child support for 19 years. You are not safe from STDs.
Maybe not 100% Safe, but I would say a hell of a lot safer from ANY of the above as compared to a non-professional.
Most pro’s want to just make their cash, and be on their way. It’s an exchange of services for a payment. Really NOTHING more.
It’s your average woman that may get all emotional, and try to trap you, talk s~~~ about you, Sperm Jack You, attempt to get revenge on you if you leave her, etc. etc. etc.If mgtow is about reclaiming sovereignty, dont risk it on sexual encounters with any women.
MGTOW is also about “going your own way”. Some Men will date. Some Men will hire HO’s. Some Men will go Monk. EACH Man should do whatever HE CHOOSES to do.
CHEERS !!Agreed but a ho is incentivised by payment , so will try to please to get a return gig… compared with a wife who already owns 70% of the house car etc…
It’s a risk with any women but less with a hooker.
Prostitution should be totally legal, regulated and SAFE. They should have locations everywhere in America. The only reason we dont have this is because RELIGION DELUSIONS and FEMINISM <– two seemingly opposing institutions yet they both keep MEN down.
All women have to offer is their pussy. It has tremendous value and should be sold on the open market. It would make their lives better and ours. It would alleviate so much suffering. But we all know why it’s not allowed….
We are still living in medieval times, I’m telling you this. All these dips~~~s that buy Tesla and shout ‘hooray’ at SpaceX, thinking we’re going to be living like the Jetsons in five years are f~~~ing idiots. We still live in a sexually repressed, violent, religitard, nightmare. Apart from the internet and cars, we may as well be living in the 800’s….. Maladaptive reproduction and idiotic practices… if there were aliens observing us they would be aghast at the disorganization and complete insanity of our species.
What will the future look like? Read a Brave New World. We will permanently separate sex from reproduction. That will catapult this species to new heights of accomplishment. We will not be able to shake superstitious memeplexes but the religions of the past will be purged or tailored for the new era. The faith and delusions of people like Harpomason, that s~~~ will die with his generation. And the charade that is the ‘family unit’ will die with our generation.
Further you are validating a woman by paying her for sex, that using her crotch for awhile is worth whatever shes demanding from you for access to it.
Well…it is. I don’t have a problem with this. Is paying a woman to blow me or spread her legs for me any different than paying someone to give me a massage, mow my lawn, or detail my car? She’s just providing a service for compensation, the amount of which is agreed upon up front. I’m far more ok with that than the scam of marriage.
Yes it is different, I believe. You know about sexual market value, perceived worth as a woman, the wall, ability to be desireable and wanted by men, the hamster, shes so good and wanted men pay her and she makes a living with sex,…yes, it is far different than a mere massage or mowing your lawn. You are not feeding the tationalization hamster paying for a massage. You are when you hire a woman for sex. You validate her and confirm to her hamster shes hot and worth paying money to wiggle your dick in her for a little bit.
If I pay for lawn services, I pay a fair price since there is lots of competition. I can do the transaction openly without any concern for legal ramifications or being looked down upon by neighbors. If I’m not happy with the service, I can easily find another law service. For all these reasons, the lawn guy is going to show me a lot of respect in order to keep my business.
Prostitution is entirely different in many aspects. It likely won’t get a fair price as there are not a lot of readily available options. I can’t do the transaction in the open. If I don’t like the service rendered, I may not really have many other available options, since clearly not all women are built the same. For all these reasons, the prostitute is likely not going to show me much respect to keep my business. She doesn’t need to.
The same thing happens in other business transactions where the seller has a product that is hard to get for legal reasons, or not available from many people. You see the same sort of disrespectful behavior of actors and musicians towards their fans.
So the way I see it, the problem with prostitution has more to do with the artificial market society creates rather then the transaction itself. If it were legal, not shunned, and readily available, it wouldn’t be any more troublesome then hiring a maid to clean your toilets. Even now though, if you found a prostitute that actually had respect for clients, even though she doesn’t need to, then I would be much more interested in doing business with her.
Ok. Then do it.
For all these reasons, the prostitute is likely not going to show me much respect to keep my business. She doesn’t need to.
Considering prostitution is NOT a Legalized Service in most places, that makes a Woman providing such services relying on a returning customer base (IE regulars) to make up the base of her income, and Men that she can be confident that will be safe, reliable, non-violent, pay the agreed upon fee, and also not be part of law enforcement.
It’s in the lil Ho’s best interest to keep her clientele happy and satisfied. This being said, doesn’t mean that they each lil HO abides to the same level of customer satisfaction or appreciation. Like in any other field of work, some are better than others, and some are excellent while others will be horrible.
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Just don’t be a total misfit like me and fall in love with one.
Just don’t be a total misfit like me and fall in love with one.
Hahahahaha. Mine just gave it out for free to essentially anyone. The level of betrayal was staggering when it all came out. It would have at least benefited the household if she charged money. But, a slut is not a whore, so there you have it.
I get nothing out of transactional sex, but each to their own. But rest assured, I am most definitely paying a mortgage-level monthly sum and will continue to for over a decade.
Don’t be me.
The answer, is no.
Just don’t be a total misfit like me and fall in love with one.
Hahahahaha. Mine just gave it out for free to essentially anyone. The level of betrayal was staggering when it all came out. It would have at least benefited the household if she charged money. But, a slut is not a whore, so there you have it.
I get nothing out of transactional sex, but each to their own. But rest assured, I am most definitely paying a mortgage-level monthly sum and will continue to for over a decade.
Don’t be me.Benn celibate for two years now. Still chopping over horny housewives on the 09097 chat line number. I hope to completely eradicate this reptilian mentality, but the tadpoles desire to be released.
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