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  • #854115
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    I know everyone has differing opinions and ruoes that they live by.

    Seems to me, thoug, paying for sex, while arguably safer than marriage and ltr/dating, is of course not safe as you could be. Further you are validating a woman by paying her for sex, that using her crotch for awhile is worth whatever shes demanding from you for access to it. You are validating her that using men this way is accptable, that we are just atms and utility to her. You are validating her sexual worth and her perceived sexual market value because you are paying what she thinks she is worth.

    You are not safe from lies is she chooses to lie about you. You are not safe from blackmail. You are not safe from bipolar psycho drama possibly occurring. You are not safe from her getting pregnant and coming after you for child support for 19 years. You are not safe from STDs.

    My suggestion is to get a good sex doll or robot. More upfront costs but all of the above pitfalls are not an issue. Just watch some favorite porn in the background and be safe.

    If mgtow is about reclaiming sovereignty, dont risk it on sexual encounters with any women. Seriously. You are dodging bullets every day not even thinking about this stuff on top of it.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #854116
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    Anonymous
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    The underlying pathology of needing (not wanting) sex is an inherent lack of self-worth in men.

    Men seek women not to ejaculate inside a sheath of rubber inside a vagina inside a thot (inception style) but rather to fulfil the void. They are told that a real man thrusts inside overused hole at times artificially lubricated and that act of having inter-continental-course (12-credits, fall semester) somehow completes him.

    Looking down up on women for the duplicity and lack of any measurable moral compass helps at length to avoid wanting sex with them. However, that is only partly true.

    #854119
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    Truthseeker82
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    As an older gent, I no longer will prostrate myself for any sexual gratification, but I do somewhat sympathize with younger men. Sex is a damn strong instinct. It can be hard to restrain. I still find myself staring at hot young women on the train each day. The difference now is I know better. Most if not all of these princesses seek only money and chad c~~~. No average man stands a chance. Only difference now is I dont give a f~~~. Im at peace with my self and my life.

    #854123
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    Awakened
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    Sex IS a Biological Drive of EVERY animal species.

    EVERYONE pays for Sex with a Woman either directly through a prostitute, or indirectly through purchasing and providing for some form of girlfriend or wife. There are NO Free Rides. Everyone pays one way or the other, sooner or later.

    Even the Chads still pay for it with THEIR time, energy, effort in various forms such as: dates, dinners, drinks,texts, calls, emails, etc. etc. etc.

    You are not safe from lies is she chooses to lie about you. You are not safe from blackmail. You are not safe from bipolar psycho drama possibly occurring. You are not safe from her getting pregnant and coming after you for child support for 19 years. You are not safe from STDs.

    Maybe not 100% Safe, but I would say a hell of a lot safer from ANY of the above as compared to a non-professional.

    Most pro’s want to just make their cash, and be on their way. It’s an exchange of services for a payment. Really NOTHING more.

    It’s your average woman that may get all emotional, and try to trap you, talk s~~~ about you, Sperm Jack You, attempt to get revenge on you if you leave her, etc. etc. etc.

    If mgtow is about reclaiming sovereignty, dont risk it on sexual encounters with any women.

    MGTOW is also about “going your own way”. Some Men will date. Some Men will hire HO’s. Some Men will go Monk. EACH Man should do whatever HE CHOOSES to do.

    CHEERS !!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #854124
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    SH3LLZ
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    My suggestion is to get a good sex doll or robot. More upfront costs but all of the above pitfalls are not an issue. Just watch some favorite porn in the background and be safe.

    Im totally with you bro! I seriously want to get a job with this company and be their head of marketing! Just look at this amazing product! Im saving up for my first one now! XD

    163cm (5ft5′) Sex Doll Valentina

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    #854126
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    As an older gent, I no longer will prostrate myself for any sexual gratification, but I do somewhat sympathize with younger men. Sex is a damn strong instinct. It can be hard to restrain. I still find myself staring at hot young women on the train each day. The difference now is I know better. Most if not all of these princesses seek only money and chad c~~~. No average man stands a chance. Only difference now is I dont give a f~~~. Im at peace with my self and my life.

    I sympathize as well, but I sympathize with them more to not have them get f~~~ed over the rest of their lives by women, the courts, and gynosociety. I think having a non-living outlet combined with some porn they like wil be bettr off for them until such time the marrige contrsct is restored to what it was, and gynosociety is no more. That said, it will probably never be good for men, anymore.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #854127
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    Beer
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    Further you are validating a woman by paying her for sex, that using her crotch for awhile is worth whatever shes demanding from you for access to it.

    Well…it is. I don’t have a problem with this. Is paying a woman to blow me or spread her legs for me any different than paying someone to give me a massage, mow my lawn, or detail my car? She’s just providing a service for compensation, the amount of which is agreed upon up front. I’m far more ok with that than the scam of marriage.

    #854128
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    Further you are validating a woman by paying her for sex, that using her crotch for awhile is worth whatever shes demanding from you for access to it.

    Well…it is. I don’t have a problem with this. Is paying a woman to blow me or spread her legs for me any different than paying someone to give me a massage, mow my lawn, or detail my car? She’s just providing a service for compensation, the amount of which is agreed upon up front. I’m far more ok with that than the scam of marriage.

    Yes it is different, I believe. You know about sexual market value, perceived worth as a woman, the wall, ability to be desireable and wanted by men, the hamster, shes so good and wanted men pay her and she makes a living with sex,…yes, it is far different than a mere massage or mowing your lawn. You are not feeding the tationalization hamster paying for a massage. You are when you hire a woman for sex. You validate her and confirm to her hamster shes hot and worth paying money to wiggle your dick in her for a little bit.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #854129
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    My suggestion is to get a good sex doll or robot. More upfront costs but all of the above pitfalls are not an issue. Just watch some favorite porn in the background and be safe.

    Im totally with you bro! I seriously want to get a job with this company and be their head of marketing! Just look at this amazing product! Im saving up for my first one now! XD

    163cm (5ft5′) Sex Doll Valentina

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    I saw their product line, several are very nice.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #854131
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    I don’t see any logic in buying sex. Too many potential problems. That being said, buying sex makes a lot more sense than marriage or cohabitation. Better to rent pussy than to “own” through marriage, especially when that pussy can get foreclosed on you later.

    A sex doll is better idea; the equivalent of 4 months of truck payments, so theoretically I could buy a sex doll in 2 years and 4 months.

    But my sex drive is only 5-10% of what it was just 2 years ago. If I thought I could get away with it, I’d charge the gf for sex. I want it less than she does.

    Why is the vagina sacred? If she comes on my dick, and I have to struggle to bang one out, who is getting more service? Who is expending more calories moving? Me!

    If it wasn’t for the prospect of splitting future vacation costs…

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #854132
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    BigD
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    You always pay for sex. To quote TFM, “Just get a doll.” This way your large cost is upfront, and you just have to pay for maintenance as time goes on.

    Just so it is known, I do not have a doll. I’m still dating Rosey Palm and her five sisters. Sometimes I cheat with her cousins, Lefty Sue and her five sisters.

    Good post by the way Secret A.

    Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

    #854135
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    The man in the mountain
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    I support the idea of men investing their money in things that give back to them with out costing them the stability that they enjoy in life, But if you want to go as far as to get a sex doll or pocket pussy, why not just travel abroad?, i mean you already are signaling that you have more than 2k in spendable income.

    It pays to know people abroad that can hook you up with local girls in another country, its far cheaper and less expensive for your wallet and your mind, also never give a girl you are f~~~ing with your address, social security number or your real name, you never want to let these bitches even those in other countries to have that kind of personal information about you.

    Far easier to go GHOST in a country that is not yours where nobody knows you, than a regulated country like the U.S. where they know when and where you took your last s~~~.

    #854137
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    A sex doll is $1600 and a one off trip to Asia that costs about the same wouldn’t be worth it.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #854138
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    Beer
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    Yes it is different, I believe. You know about sexual market value, perceived worth as a woman, the wall, ability to be desireable and wanted by men, the hamster, shes so good and wanted men pay her and she makes a living with sex,…yes, it is far different than a mere massage or mowing your lawn. You are not feeding the tationalization hamster paying for a massage. You are when you hire a woman for sex. You validate her and confirm to her hamster shes hot and worth paying money to wiggle your dick in her for a little bit.

    You are kidding yourself if you think sex with a hot young woman has zero value. Even if you wouldn’t pay for it, plenty of other guys would, and do, in one form or another, whether it be dating, a relations~~~, marriage, sugar babies, or just straight up prostitution. I don’t think its worth the price a well off guy ends up paying in divorce(or even just the price of your sanity for having to deal with one day in and day out), but if prostitution was made legal tomorrow there is no doubt in my mind there would be men lined up to pay for it, and women lined up to sell it.

    Pretty much what you are saying is pussy has no value because you personally wouldn’t pay for it. Apply that logic to anything else, and it just sounds silly. I’m a Chevy guy, if I said Ford Mustangs have no value because I wouldn’t pay for one, you’d just laugh at me for believing that logic.

    If you truly take pussy off the pedestal, prostitution becomes just another service job. Someone is providing a service for x amount of time for x amount of dollars, and the going rate is going to be based on supply and demand.

    #854142
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    You are kidding yourself if you think sex with a hot young woman has zero value. Even if you wouldn’t pay for it, plenty of other guys would, and do, in one form or another, whether it be dating, a relations~~~, marriage, sugar babies, or just straight up prostitution. I don’t think its worth the price a well off guy ends up paying in divorce, but if prostitution was made legal tomorrow there is no doubt in my mind there would be men lined up to pay for it, and women lined up to sell it.
    Pretty much what you are saying is pussy has no value because you personally wouldn’t pay for it. Apply that logic to anything else, and it just sounds silly. I’m a Chevy guy, if I said Ford Mustangs have no value because I wouldn’t pay for one, you’d just laugh at me for believing that logic.
    If you truly take pussy off the pedestal, prostitution becomes just another service job. Someone is providing a service for x amount of time for x amount of dollars, and the going rate is going to be based on supply and demand.

    If they legalize prostitution, maybe I’ll become a pimp in my retirement. Then I’ll use the money to buy stuff I actually get more enjoyment from.

    Pussy is a fungible resource; it should be sold on the commodities exchange, just like gold, oil, and orange juice.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #854147
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    I don’t see any logic in buying sex. Too many potential problems. That being said, buying sex makes a lot more sense than marriage or cohabitation. Better to rent pussy than to “own” through marriage, especially when that pussy can get foreclosed on you later.
    A sex doll is better idea; the equivalent of 4 months of truck payments, so theoretically I could buy a sex doll in 2 years and 4 months.
    But my sex drive is only 5-10% of what it was just 2 years ago. If I thought I could get away with it, I’d charge the gf for sex. I want it less than she does.
    Why is the vagina sacred? If she comes on my dick, and I have to struggle to bang one out, who is getting more service? Who is expending more calories moving? Me!
    If it wasn’t for the prospect of splitting future vacation costs…

    Generally sex is an 80/20 work difference, the man being the 80%. “Im too tired” is bulls~~~ when you do 25% of the work and mostly lay there like a corpse.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #854148
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    ScarberianMPTGL
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    It’s weird, I’m about to enter my thirties, I know my sex drive is nowhere near dried up, and yet I already think even paying for sex is too much of a hassle and not worth the money. Funny thing is, I know eventually I’ll get bored of jacking off, nevermind what kind of porn I watch. Maybe I’m just too lazy, maybe too many red pills, who knows for sure, but I already decided I’m done with prostitutes. The problem is, what do I do when I get tired of jacking off? My current financial situation prevents me from “just getting a doll”, which now that I think about it, annoys me a bit, as if every guy either has the financial means or is in the right situation or place in his life to just up and buy one no problems. I KNOW it’s better than a woman, obviously, but it’s still not as simple as just “getting” one.

    I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

    #854150
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    Yes it is different, I believe. You know about sexual market value, perceived worth as a woman, the wall, ability to be desireable and wanted by men, the hamster, shes so good and wanted men pay her and she makes a living with sex,…yes, it is far different than a mere massage or mowing your lawn. You are not feeding the tationalization hamster paying for a massage. You are when you hire a woman for sex. You validate her and confirm to her hamster shes hot and worth paying money to wiggle your dick in her for a little bit.

    You are kidding yourself if you think sex with a hot young woman has zero value. Even if you wouldn’t pay for it, plenty of other guys would, and do, in one form or another, whether it be dating, a relations~~~, marriage, sugar babies, or just straight up prostitution. I don’t think its worth the price a well off guy ends up paying in divorce(or even just the price of your sanity for having to deal with one day in and day out), but if prostitution was made legal tomorrow there is no doubt in my mind there would be men lined up to pay for it, and women lined up to sell it.
    Pretty much what you are saying is pussy has no value because you personally wouldn’t pay for it. Apply that logic to anything else, and it just sounds silly. I’m a Chevy guy, if I said Ford Mustangs have no value because I wouldn’t pay for one, you’d just laugh at me for believing that logic.
    If you truly take pussy off the pedestal, prostitution becomes just another service job. Someone is providing a service for x amount of time for x amount of dollars, and the going rate is going to be based on supply and demand.

    Where did I say it has no value?

    Its massively overvalued given the negatives that come with it, its overvalued even from prostitutes, and anyone who pays for it is part helping to keep it overvalued by paying what women demand. I am saying in this day and age, a sex doll with porn you enjoy, is a far safer and better short and long term investment, with none of the negatives that could even possibly occur with a modern woman.

    Paying for pussy automatically puts it on a pedestal. You are saying her pussy is worth that, its something that should be paid for. I honestly dont see if you belive that, how you can be opposed to paying for supporting a wife, or exwife. Or paying a woman to be your girlfriend and paying for everything. Its all about access to her pussy and you have admitted you are fine with paying for pussy. Why not have a girlfriend and pay for everything she wants, you’ve got her pussy now.

    Sex doll is a major better option than paying for overvalued pussy, prostitute, girlfriend, wife, whatever. None of the drama, health risks, blackmail, courts, loss of money and house, etc.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #854151
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    Ranger One
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    It’s weird, I’m about to enter my thirties, I know my sex drive is nowhere near dried up, and yet I already think even paying for sex is too much of a hassle and not worth the money. Funny thing is, I know eventually I’ll get bored of jacking off, nevermind what kind of porn I watch. Maybe I’m just too lazy, maybe too many red pills, who knows for sure, but I already decided I’m done with prostitutes. The problem is, what do I do when I get tired of jacking off? My current financial situation prevents me from “just getting a doll”, which now that I think about it, annoys me a bit, as if every guy either has the financial means or is in the right situation or place in his life to just up and buy one no problems. I KNOW it’s better than a woman, obviously, but it’s still not as simple as just “getting” one.

    Put aside $50 every 2 weeks. In one year, you’ll have $1,300 for a sex doll.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #854153
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    You always pay for sex. To quote TFM, “Just get a doll.” This way your large cost is upfront, and you just have to pay for maintenance as time goes on.
    Just so it is known, I do not have a doll. I’m still dating Rosey Palm and her five sisters. Sometimes I cheat with her cousins, Lefty Sue and her five sisters.
    Good post by the way Secret A.

    I dont have one either but in the future, I might.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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