Paying for kids that aren't yours

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

@MG-Tower,

I like that he pulls his friend down with him.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

There was a gay man.I repeat A GAY MAN , some c~~~ found his name on FB and put his name on the Birth certificate.Months later he gets a letter in the mail saying he owes bookoo $$$$$ in child support.

He is a STEM grad making what a STEM grad makes .So why did she name him???We all know the answer.

He made a video about what was happening to him and AVFM posted it but the video was taken down and his channel deleted

Here is the AVFM article.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/paternity-fraud-father-by-default/

I keep saying guys WOMEN ARE A HAZARD

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Not seeing the link my man.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Link not posting.

KM can we post links from Ms piggys avfm ?

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

But i found the videos mirriored

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[KeymasterKeymaster]

MgtowWave wrote:

Link not posting.
KM can we post links from Ms piggys avfm ?

Link is fixed for you above. Not your fault (or ours) the link was interpreted as an iframe which isn’t permitted. It’s a basic link now.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

How the f~~~ can that happen? A random female can pick your name out of a phone book and say you’re paying?

Edit: No, how the f~~~ can that happen. A female can pick my name out of the phonebook and say I’m responsible for her womb turd?

Edit Again: It’s God Damn drive by shooting.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

Stories such as this and this:

Jeremiah Johnson wrote:

I am paying for child support for a daughter I believe to be not mine as well.

Make me avoid women altogether. I don’t even help them anymore even if they beg me for help.

One time when I was going to a fast food place to get a sub sandwhich, this black woman was out in the parking lot with her child. She was BEGGING people for help and trying to place guilt trips on others because she had her kid in the stroller.

In all honesty, I doubt she even needed anyone’s f~~~ing help and even if she did, she could go to any government facility and get help the next day.

But, instead, she started begging me for money and tried to place a guilt trip on me and mention her child as well. I just didn’t give a s~~~ and told her “No! I don’t have any money to give you.”

After that, I went into the restaurant, got my food and drove off.

I only had $7 dollars in my wallet to begin with and at that time, I was still living with my parents. But, I knew she could get ANY assistance from the government she wanted to. She could automatically get signed up for food stamps, clothing, and housing assistance. Especially with the way the government helps single moms these days.

Men, on the other hand, especially if they owe child support or alimony, can never get help from the government and even if they do, they get very little help.

So I just didn’t give a s~~~ and ignored her. I’ve known women in my family to play that guilt trip game while having backup help at home.

You can’t trust women now a days for anything. You can also never trust the government. Which is why you should always avoid helping, cohabiting and marrying women. It’s just not worth it in this day and age.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

This is also why I’d rather give money to a homeless man than a homeless woman. The man needs it more because he can almost never get any help from the government at all.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Yup

If a woman has a baby and applys for foodstamps and Public Aid she can name YOU as the father and the State will begin proceedings to put an order of Child Support against you.

You have X amount of time to contest it before its legally irreversible .

Not a smart idea to have your name publicly available .

From FB or the Phone Book etc

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

I don’t have a dog in this fight (no kids), but these experiences make my blood boil. So much for men being part of an evil ‘patriarchy’ against women! What the f~~~ are all the male legislators and judges doing to counter these vile injustices against men? Or are they just so pussy-whipped by their stay-at-home ‘women’s liberationist’ wives that they dare not rock the feminazi applecart for fear of a DOS attack (Denial Of Sex). Have a cup of cement you useless pricks (judges and legislators), grow some b~~~~ and begin the fight for male rights!

#ManOut

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Jeremiah, I sympathize with your problem. My situation isn’t much better but I don’t have any children or ex-wives. I am, however, a veteran having served 6.5 years in the US Army. If you have ever served in our Armed Forces you might be able to get help at the VA. Good luck, brother.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

This is all too familiar. It also happens to our war veterans:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-curious-case-of-staff-sgt-brandon-parsons-2013-2

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[GreekDragoonParticipant 460]

MgtowWave wrote:

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MgtowWave wrote:

But i found the videos mirriored

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Jesus, what happened with this guy?

Tell me that he wasn’t saddled with paying the money.

[HitmanParticipant]

damn.
i know my kid is mine and it’s a f~~~ing nightmare to pay child support..
if i got railroaded like this guy ..i .. i ..
i think i just might lose it and hell be damned.
jeremiah, long time no see man..
you are missed here and wished only the best..
post up more and let’s see if we can come up with some ideas/options for you brother.
NO suffering in silence ..talk to us, start a thread and i promise i will give you my all.
new post by you soon and it will be done .
you are in my prayers.all my MGTOW brothers are.

[narwhalParticipant]

Playing devil’s advocate a bit here. In principle, a married couple shares all assets and expenses. They essentially act as one economically. And equity or debt earned while married is split upon divorce.

If for example, the wife goes out and purchases a car and immediately totals it, both husband and wife get the bill. If the husband gets a similar debt, it is also her debt, even upon divorce. I’m not saying that’s fair, but ‘accidents’ while married are the responsibility of both.

On the other hand, there are many things were the two are treated as distinct individuals. If he get a driver’s license, she is not authorized to drive. If she commits a crime, she will go to jail but he will not. She has specific rights that are granted to him as a woman. He is required to register with the service, she is not. I would call these rights/responsibilities.

So I would understand how a husband, even though not the father, would be financially responsible if the child were considered to be an asset or debt, but is that what they are? If the actual father wants custody/visitation, would the husband still be able to claim his ‘1/3’ of the custody? Why would a husband ever need to adopt a child after he marries his mother? Wouldn’t he already have legal right pre and post marriage?

IMO, it makes much more sense to classify children in the rights/responsibility category, not the asset/debt category. They are certainly treated as such in almost all other situations.

Aside…the asset/debt laws on marriage are also screwed up, but that’s not the topic at hand.

Ok. Then do it.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

No.

A woman.Any woman can find a thugs dick to get her pregnant anywhere.You can be paying for a budding sociopath or two or three or five..
The only thing that could end legal paternaty fraud is if enough of us men rise up with one voice and say F~~~ NO.
THEN the government would have incentive to change the laws.
Or

If enough men go MGTOW and the women panic and insist the laws change.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[experiencedParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

DNA don’t matter.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2016/03/25/man-contests-support-child-he-says-he-didnt-father/82282038/

There was an innocent new poster here who communicated to the effect that he didn’t think they could charge more than you earn, or up an amount of money expected when you are already at your max.
Unfortunately, society only considers it to be too much when they kill you via it.
So really, society figures there is no max.
Just ask Robin Williams or the scores of British, Aussie, Kiwi, ….. the death knell ringing is sickening.

THIS! IMO is one of if not THE most important aspects of this site. To FOREWARN men that today’s legal system is something out of the SAW movies series where once you get a limb in there somewhere you’re going to go through living hell to get COMPLETELY out of the machine, mangled.

I for one, consider this a high responsibility and will, in due time, worry about the aspect of manly men seeking to support other manly men in their development of manly manliness.
Helping men to avoid being mangled is paramount.
YES, there does have to be a light at the end of the tunnel; I just don’t want to see guys limping there missing a leg knowing that it could have been prevented.

I take some solace knowing that our numbers are growing. I won’t be the only one “monitoring” domestic disputes so that I may ram home the truth to the powers that be that SHE was the only one taking the offensive and physically lashing out.
I won’t be the only one in reality parallels of “Eleven Angry Women and One Man”
where in the juror room I will fight til hell freezes over for justice in each case.
F~~~

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

@ Jan

That link you posted is another reason why i advocate having as little to do with exes as possible.

If my ex called me rigt now i would hang up and have my number changed.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

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