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In order to continue reading the article, you need to answer a questionnaire. Can anyone copy and paste the article in this thread so that we don’t all have to do the questionnaire? I am on my chromebook with no mouse device at this moment so it is not going to be easy for me to copy and paste the article here myself.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Joe Vandusen
A Davenport man is protesting a state law that requires him to pay child support for a child that isn’t his.Joe Vandusen, 45, received a letter earlier this month from the Iowa Department of Human Services notifying him that he would be required to pay child support for his estranged wife’s child, even though he is not the father, Vandusen told The Des Moines Register Friday evening.
Vandusen and his wife have hardly talked in 15 to 17 years, aside from an occasional phone call or Facebook message, he said. “I was married to my ex a couple of years, but we didn’t see eye-to-eye, so we split up,” without filing for an official divorce, Vandusen said. The child Vandusen is expected to help support is about 1 year old, he said.
Vandusen contacted the Department of Human Services’ Child Support Recovery Unit to say he’s not the biological father of his wife’s child, and he offered to take a paternity test to prove it — but he was told it didn’t matter, according to state law, he said.“They said since I’m still legally married, I’m going to be responsible for the child support,” Vandusen said.
Joe Vandusen / Special to the Register
Joe Vandusen of Davenport received this letter asking him to pay child support for a child he says is not his.
A spokesperson from the Department of Human Services confirmed to WQAD-TV in Davenport that in a case like Vandusen’s, the husband is considered the legal father of his wife’s newborn child, even though he has not seen her in nearly two decades. The Register could not reach state officials for comment Friday evening.
Other states have similar laws, which are aimed at making sure all children are sufficiently financially supported.
Vandusen was recently laid off from his job, so he doesn’t have the money to pay child support, he said. He also doesn’t have the money to pay for an attorney to file for divorce and to fight in court against the child support requirement.
So he went to the media to draw attention to his case, he said. Since his story aired on WQAD on Wednesday, Vandusen has been contacted by many people from across the U.S. offering their support, including three other men from Iowa in a similar situation, he said.
Vandusen also has established a fundraiser to help with his legal expenses at http://www.crowdrise.com. The amount of child support that Vandusen will be expected to pay has not yet been established, he said, but the initial cost of an attorney will be about $2,000.
“I’d like to see my divorce get filed; I want the DNA test to prove I’m not the father, and then they’d drop the case against me,” he said.
He also hopes Iowa lawmakers will notice his case and change the law, he said.
Vandusen already owes child support on his own child, who was born to another woman before his marriage, and “in that case, I didn’t deny it,” he said.
But being asked to support a child that is not his is not fair, Vandusen said.
“I’m just trying to get it stopped,” he said.Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
Jan, I really appreciate it.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
As for the article itself, I really wish I would know what is the court system’s motive to be so unfair with men in divorce court cases. You would expect the court system to be fair and just. Was the judge a mangina or even a feminist maybe? If we would know the real truth on why the court system is like that in divorce cases, maybe it would help us cope with it all, or it would at least help the men who are brutally divorced to get more answers on why things happened to them to help them recover from the trauma. Thanks for the article Jan.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
The law never caught up with the fact that females do actually cheat and DNA can prove it.
The interesting thing is that as a matter of law. The Husband is the legal father.
As a matter of Science he cannot be the father.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
Ok, I may be a dick here but he had it coming since the moron forgot to divorce her at the first place.
What?
He or She wanted the tax benefits to stay?
Congratulations you f~~~ing moron, now you are F~~~ED UP THE ASS!
I really wish I would know what is the court system’s motive to be so unfair with men in divorce court cases.
The government gets a handsome percentage of every child support check. That’s their motivation. I guarantee they expect him to write the support checks out to the welfare office, not the mother herself.
It’s all about the money. Men make the money. The government wants the money. Children are a convenient vector to take the money, paternity and justice be damned.
From the article:
“Other states have similar laws, which are aimed at making sure all children are sufficiently financially supported.”
And also aimed at making sure several useless bureaucrats in the government “department of child welfare” are also supported. Who gives a f~~~ about actual justice?
Note that the mother can unilaterally at any time give the child up for adoption, thereby abandoning her parental responsibilities, with no cost to her whatsoever and no say at all from the “legal father”. All he gets is the bill.
All men ever get is the bill.
Refuse to pay that bill.
I am paying for child support for a daughter I believe to be not mine as well. I live in the state of Wyoming, but my x-wife lives in Missouri. And when I finally got the money together to be able to afford the ridiculously expensive DNA test, I found out that in Missouri, I could only use a DNA test within 4 years of the original court order to pay child support, it is the STATE FREAKING LAW!!!!!! I COULDN’T BELIEVE MY EARS, they have taken me for over $25,000 and they are now taking exactly 50% of my measly disability check. I have found out that my x-wife and her NEW husband together bring in over $120,000 a year, and now after support I take home $6500 a year. I am not making it at all, and without help from my mother, (which comes at a cost I cannot even begin to explain the humility) I would be homeless, and no one f~~~ing cares. I wake every day and wonder why I should even bother getting up, the pain I am in for the rest of my life, I cannot even afford to go to the doctor to get the TNF blockers I need for my body to stop destroying itself, and now the ankylosing spondylitis is so bad and out of control I can hardly even walk anymore, and no one gives 2 s~~~s. I feel the pain of the main character of this story every day I have left on this rock. I hate the way this country has been taken over. It is literally killing me a little more each day. Ugh.
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
And if that is not enough to make your blood boil, try this on for size…I cannot get any assistance from the state of Wyoming, no food help, no heating help, no insurance because BEFORE THEY RAPE me for the child support, I make $21 to much too qualify. BEFORE THEY TAKE OUT CHILD SUPPORT!!!! Can you f~~~ing believe it???? I started working in this country when I was only 14 years old, PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM THAT WON’T HELP ME, BUT IT WILL SURE AS HELL HELP ALL THESE BEACHED F~~~ING WHALES EVERY TIME THEY SQUIRT OUT ANOTHER FATHERLESS CHILD, AND THEY NEVER WORKED A DAY IN THEIR LIVES! NEVER PAID INTO THE SYSTEM I DID, NEVER CONTRIBUTED ONE F-ING DIME, AND I HAVE PAID FOR THEIR PROGRAMS MY WHOLE LIFE, and now when I need the help the most, I cannot get it, makes me sick.
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Who gives a f~~~ about actual justice?
That’s why it’s called a “legal” system now, and not a JUSTICE system anymore.
I may be a dick here but he had it coming since the moron forgot to divorce her at the first place.
Not as big a dick as the lawyers and the bitch going after him for this s~~~. While he is technically responsible, everyone knows that’s the only reason he is getting nailed for it. They know he’s not ACTUALLY responsible. If the f~~~ing bitch were responsible she wouldn’t expect to nail him to forced slavery and 18 years of monthly payments.
That’s what it is. UNCONSTITUTIONAL FORCED SLAVERY. And if he doesn’t pay he goes to jail. Even if everyone – including the judge – knows he’s not the father.
makes me sick.
This is one of the reasons I won’t even give a single mother the time of day. And on Father’s Day… every working man should walk up to a single mother and DEMAND she’s wishes him Happy Father’s Day. Because you’re paying for her bastard womb turd.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I honestly believe this idiot deserves it man. Especially since he married a single mother (a cuck move) it is bad enough marrying a chick without extra baggage from another man. Also the fact of when her boyfriend comes to town she will hook up with him to remember good times.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
It is clear that marriage is male enslavement backed up by the state.
Also “fatherhood”.
I honestly believe this idiot deserves it man
No. He doesn’t deserve it. He’s being dinged on a technicality. The one who “deserves” to pay child support is the mother and the man she spread her legs for.
When you leave your iPad on the dash of your car and a thief smashes the glass and steals it….. to an extent, a man can kick himself and say “I totally deserved that” because no theft would have taken place. It was entirely avoidable by him – even though the thief did the stealing.
Yes I know what you mean, he “deserved” it because he didn’t finalize a divorce. But there was nothing he could do to avoid her allowing herself to get pregnant.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I am paying for child support for a daughter I believe to be not mine as well. I live in the state of Wyoming, but my x-wife lives in Missouri. And when I finally got the money together to be able to afford the ridiculously expensive DNA test, I found out that in Missouri, I could only use a DNA test within 4 years of the original court order to pay child support, it is the STATE FREAKING LAW!!!!!! I COULDN’T BELIEVE MY EARS, they have taken me for over $25,000 and they are now taking exactly 50% of my measly disability check. I have found out that my x-wife and her NEW husband together bring in over $120,000 a year, and now after support I take home $6500 a year. I am not making it at all, and without help from my mother, (which comes at a cost I cannot even begin to explain the humility) I would be homeless, and no one f~~~ing cares. I wake every day and wonder why I should even bother getting up, the pain I am in for the rest of my life, I cannot even afford to go to the doctor to get the TNF blockers I need for my body to stop destroying itself, and now the ankylosing spondylitis is so bad and out of control I can hardly even walk anymore, and no one gives 2 s~~~s. I feel the pain of the main character of this story every day I have left on this rock. I hate the way this country has been taken over. It is literally killing me a little more each day. Ugh.
@ JJ,
Thank you for sharing your story. It will help other men.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
@ JJ,
Thank you for sharing your story. It will help other men.
Meant to say that as well. Haven’t seen Jeremiah Johnson in a long time and it’s good to see him again – although I wish it were under better circumstances.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.this is why more and more men are droping out of the gynocentric carrousel angoing mgtow.
I honestly believe this idiot deserves it man
No. He doesn’t deserve it. He’s being dinged on a technicality. The one who “deserves” to pay child support is the mother and the man she spread her legs for.
When you leave your iPad on the dash of your car and a thief smashes the glass and steals it….. to an extent, a man can kick himself and say “I totally deserved that” because no theft would have taken place. It was entirely avoidable by him – even though the thief did the stealing.
Yes I know what you mean, he “deserved” it because he didn’t finalize a divorce. But there was nothing he could do to avoid her allowing herself to get pregnant.
He should not have not married a single mother. I get if he had the condom drained but he went and married a single mother. You should not put your ipad out in the open like that if you don’t want it stolen. The thief stole the ipad but the idiot left it out in the open.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Anonymous42Go ahead, get married, what could possibly go wrong?
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