Parents house their rules

[Anonymous 7]

Parents will not:

Let me own a gun
Get tattoos (Debatably good or bad)
Let me have girls over (Debatably good or bad)

And when ever politics comes up we always argue and am sick of hearing about Bernie And Hilary let alone any political view I have being attacked.

My dad says “Only weak people get guns”.

The place is always a mess and everyday there is yelling.
I do appreciate the opportunity they give me to live here rent free and eat their food but I would prefer to live by my own rules.

I currently have 600 saved up from 2 months of s~~~ty saving. My goal is to save up 3k and find an apartment to share around my college for 500 a month. I currently make 700 a month as well and can pick up work during the summer.

Im honestly sick of living here and want to get out. Im bored with life as well and am ready for new experiences. I dont feel like a man living off my parents.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated

Cooking will be the biggest bitch for me.

And also I know it is good to save but with the career path Im taking, Ill make 9k, entire college savings in two or three months.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

My dad says “Only weak people get guns”.

Something only a Dumbicrat would say! Reality dictates only weak and vulnerable people have no guns. Hey Lotto, if you were staying in Vermont I’d give you a place to live for free!
You’re a base trying to live in acid!

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

I’m in the same situation. I hate living with my parents. I’m thankful they didn’t kick me out when I was 18, but still, living with them is a s~~~ty experience.

I have to deal with them arguing constantly and whenever they say something to try to provoke a reaction out of me, I end up having to keep my mouth shut because it causes my mom anxiety, and she’s bed ridden as well, so that only worsens her health.

I have about 1300 saved up in my bank account. I plan on getting a minivan or a truck and converting it into a camper when I have enough money saved up.

Living with anyone, roommates or parents is just a real s~~~ty experience when you’re a MGTOW.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[Anonymous 7]

Anonymous wrote:

Something only a Dumbicrat would say! Reality dictates only weak and vulnerable people have no guns. Hey Lotto, if you were staying in Vermont I’d give you a place to live for free!
You’re a base trying to live in acid!

Haha thanks man. Yeah Im not trying to come across as selfish its just that my parents beliefs are 360 degrees from mine.

[Anonymous 42]

Anthony wrote:

I’m in the same situation. I hate living with my parents. I’m thankful they didn’t kick me out when I was 18, but still, living with them is a s~~~ty experience.

I have to deal with them arguing constantly and whenever they say something to try to provoke a reaction out of me, I end up having to keep my mouth shut because it causes my mom anxiety, and she’s bed ridden as well, so that only worsens her health.

I have about 1300 saved up in my bank account. I plan on getting a minivan or a truck and converting it into a camper when I have enough money saved up.

Living with anyone, roommates or parents is just a real s~~~ty experience when you’re a MGTOW.

Plenty of people start out cheap by living in a campground with a towable camper, my neighbor restarted his life at 40 living in a camper then got his house. Restart @ 40 years old!

Never give up, never surrender! (Galaxy Quest).

[Anonymous 24]

I don’t know where you guys live, but living on a small sailboat is inexpensive, and they can be had for 3k or so. Look into it if you are near an ocean/lake/waterway. Otherwise, save every penny, shop at thrift stores for clothes, and get the f out of there. If you can, forget about a car as well, ride a bike.

Don’t talk politics with parents, just avoid it 100 percent. Let them do and say what they please, they are old, and will not be changed no matter how sound the logic. Also, no ism works with Cronyism. Socialism, Capitalism, Communism, Libertarianism… whatever, the system is rigged. If we all collectively had any brains whatsoever we would all give up our isms and demand transparency from our governments, then maybe we could start having real conversations and make some informed decisions.

[Anonymous 7]

Yeah I dont argue anymore it just always on the TV and I always here them uttering complete bulls~~~. I have a car, my parents helped me pay for it and student loans cover my car insurance.

Ill look into the sail boat but Id prefer to live close to my campus so I dont have to pay much for gas.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Lottery;

From your post, I take it you are in your later teens or early 20’s. My $0.02 is that although living with your parents is a drag, this is a golden opportunity to save, not incur huge education debt, and establish a solid foundation for the future. But like anything in life, it comes with an opportunity-cost. Renting, with such a small income, will be an additional stress and put you further behind the eight ball financially.

I can understand the frustration of living with parents, I had too for a year in my mid 30’s after my marriage dissolved and was rendered homeless, while I was looking for a new property to purchase. But, I will be eternally greatful to my folks.

Provided your not in a dangerous situation, you can always work around things with some creative thinking.

If you meet a girl, spend the night at her place. (Be safe and guard your sperm like gold.) If you want a gun, store it at the range(depending on local law).

Sounds like your basically living free. That’s worth about $800-1000/mo in savings. You have the rest of your life to be independent.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

My dad says “Only weak people get guns”.

Tell that to the armed forces.

Anyway, I got out ASAP. Much the same type deal. Run dude, get out any way you can. I don’t know your whole situation, but one of the biggest things to deal with once on your own is having to do everything yourself. Mom and dad won’t come and clean up or get the dishes if you leave them. You have to be on top of that s~~~.

Of course, that’s not a problem if you’re like me and started paying rent when you were 16.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated

OK since you asked…..

This is something you have to suck it up until you are out of the house — for a GOOD reason. Because THEN, it’s payback time. And YOU make the rules. Think about it. If you accept it now and remove your hat, you then get to enforce it for the rest of your life.

You gotta bide your time.

It’s also very good for you. And extremely important. Because it can be used as a big motivator for you to step into the world and stake your own claim. If it were a free for all for you and you could do whatever you want and have girls over and get tattoos and stay out all night…. you will not value it as much when you actually CAN do it.

And quite often, when you finally can, you probably WON’T WANT TO anymore.

Many times, people want to be able to be free to do “whatever they want – whenever they want” but here’s the thing about freedom….

It isn’t free.

Freedoms come with a cost and a sacrifice. Often a great one. If you want to be totally free, you gotta earn it. You want to get a driver’s license, you don’t waltz into the DMV holding your hand out…. and you have to continue earning that right every day you’re on the road for the rest of your life. Else points get taken away from you and eventually you lose your freedom and right to drive.

Anonymous wrote:

Im honestly sick of living here and want to get out. Im bored with life as well and am ready for new experiences. I dont feel like a man living off my parents.

I totally understand that. When I was 36, I took a job in new country. And when you move to a new country you have NOTHING. Not even basic freedoms and rights of it’s own citizens.

• I couldn’t even get a mobile phone because I had no credit in that country.
• I couldn’t get credit until I had a social security number (or whatever they call it there).
• And I couldn’t get that, without support from my employer.

I felt totally dickless. And I had to go to my BOSS and ask him to help me get a mobile phone which was like going to my parents and asking for a dollar for the school picnic. And I was 36!

Eventually after about 2 years I started to feel like a grown up again.
But I had to bide my time.

…. and when I FINALLY received my papers for permission to live and work there, AFER ALL THAT WORK AND WAITING…. I was at par with a homeless man. I only had EXACTLY the same rights and freedoms as he did. Unit then, I wasn’t even THAT.

Eventually you will establish yourself and you can make your own choices to get a tattoo, have chicks over and own a gun if you really want to. But when you finally work your butt off to get there, you may be surprised to know that you didn’t really want those things badly enough after all.

Because now… you learned the value of the real BASICS.

These people who think “I DO WHAT I WANT!!! YOU CAN’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!” infuriate the f~~~ out of me, and they sound like petulant little 8 year olds, because they have’t learned the f~~~ing basics…. and they haven’t earned it yet.

Men have to EARN their own way out of worthlessness.
Best thing for you. I give you my personal f~~~ing guarantee.

Accept and obey your Dad’s rules. For now.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 7]

Keymaster wrote:

OK since you asked…..

This is something you have to suck it up until you are out of the house — for a GOOD reason. Because THEN, it’s payback time. And YOU make the rules. Think about it. If you accept it now and remove your hat, you then get to enforce it for the rest of your life.

Im not trying to get payback. I dont hold any grudges with anyone, I just want to experience life the way I want to because I havent been experiencing much the past two years.

Im living my parents life.
I wanted to become an electrician not go to college.
I wanted to get a motorcycle but not under their roof.
I want to get Tats but not under their roof.
I want to own a gun and go to the ranges but not under their roof.

And somewhere between the numb toes, annular tear in your back, and the twitching you stop giving a f~~~ about their rules.

And I know its not free, freedom costs money. If I regret the decisions that I made later in life well than too f~~~ing bad for me I chose it just like with my s~~~ty squatting technique. Some of the only power each one of us has innately and till your death bed is to choose.

And I do have a feeling that ten years from now this country/world will be A LOT different.

Thanks for your comment

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

How old are you, OP? If you’re 18 or under, pretty soon (sooner than you think), you’ll be on your own, and all those problems will vanish. You’ll have new problems, of course, but they’ll be your problems, ready for you to deal with them.

Take advantage of not having to pay rent or food or utilities. That’s HUGE. Make as much money as you can, and stash it the f~~~ away. You’ll need it when you’re on your own and things are rocky. You’re living with them, your personal expenses are zero, that means every dollar you make right now is going to turn into straight profit. That money you make is going to build up incredibly fast.

Also, remember that there are always ways to have freedom; do not put yourself in a box. Doesn’t let you have girls over? Get the girls to take you to their house. Doesn’t let you get a tattoo? If you’re eighteen, he has no say in the matter. Doesn’t let you own a gun? If you live in a place where you need to have a gun licence, start working on getting a licence now without his knowledge (he didn’t say you couldn’t do that!). Just be clever; there’s always a way to mitigate the unpleasant aspects of living at home if you’re willing to look.

Regarding cooking, I’m just like you: I lived on a meal plan for four years in college, and now I live on my own. Don’t worry! You can find on the internet really cheap meal replacements such as Soylent; cheap, a complete meal with everything you need. It’s pretty ghetto, but, hey, it’s probably better than your current diet!

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[AttonParticipant]

Let me have girls over (Debatably good or bad)

It’s good without question, women should be the last thing on a mans mind. Your security and freedom are the most valuable assets you will ever have. Women will bring you nether of those things, they could very well take those things from you.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated

A man’s home is his kingdom or at least in theory. The king makes the rules and decides the law, they are also the courts and senate. The only way around that is to build your own kingdom.

Cooking will be the biggest bitch for me.

If you can do a job and do it well that involves any skill cooking will be easy. Do research and everything will very quickly fall into place

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 7]

Im 19 and they said they will kick me out if I get a tat. In cali you dont need a gun license just sign some papers. And i dont feel good about hiding either of them. I dont like lying even if I do disagree with their s~~~ rules.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

And i dont feel good about hiding either of them. I dont like lying.

Don’t ever change lotto, you’re holding the key to honor and I commend you!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Im not trying to get payback. I dont hold any grudges with anyone, I just want to experience life the way I want to because I havent been experiencing much the past two years.

Perhaps “payback” was the wrong word.

My mom likes to say things like “close the fridge door, you’re wasting electricity” ( yes I’m dead serious )…… and “don’t throw that napkin out, you can use it again”.

Guess what my response is.

“My house. My rules.”

…. and it feels terrific.

That’s what I meant by “payback”. 🙂 I will throw that slightly dirty napkin out right where she can see it and leave the fridge door open as long as I like. Just to irritate her, because for too long , I had to listen to that s~~~: “my house, my rules”.

I don’t hold a grudge. I’m just f~~~ing with her, and will enjoy every minute of it, because it’s intensely amusing to watch her get right under her skin. I think it’s because she still likes to blurt out these “orders” at me. They are not even suggestions. They are COMMANDS. “Don’t do this… don’t do that”. So it’s my loving way of saying “f~~~ you “.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 7]

Keymaster wrote:

That’s what I meant by “payback”. ? I will throw that slightly dirty napkin out right where she can see it and leave the fridge door open as long as I like. Just to irritate her, because for too long , I had to listen to that s~~~: “my house, my rules”.

I don’t hold a grudge. I’m just f~~~ing with her, and will enjoy every minute of it, because it’s intensely amusing to watch her get right under her skin. I think it’s because she still likes to blurt out these “orders” at me. They are not even suggestions. They are COMMANDS. “Don’t do this… don’t do that”. So it’s my loving way of saying “f~~~ you “.

Ok haha I gotcha

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Anonymous wrote:

Plenty of people start out cheap by living in a campground with a towable camper, my neighbor restarted his life at 40 living in a camper then got his house. Restart @ 40 years old!

That’s definitely going to be my go to place to start my life. I’m not big on apartment living simply because I don’t like most landlord’s bulls~~~ rules. I’d rather sleep in an RV campground, rest stop on the highway, or gas station.

Keymaster wrote:

My mom likes to say things like “close the fridge door, you’re wasting electricity” ( yes I’m dead serious )…… and “don’t throw that napkin out, you can use it again”.

My parents are exactly like this. My mom is also a passive aggressive c~~~ to the point to where if I don’t clean something just exactly right, she’ll end up complaining about it a week later and saying “I didn’t clean anything for a whole week.”

S~~~ like that is why I’ll be glad when I move out and get my own place. That way, I can say “my house my rules.”

When I get my house, I’ll take out the trash when I damn well please. I don’t need someone nagging me to take it out every hour on the dot.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I’m sorry you are in an uncomfortable situation.

On the other hand, what an opportunity.

When I was younger, I stayed home as long as I could in order to minimize school debt. This saved me a fortune.

You handle being around parents the same way you would handle being around hostile women.
Just smile and shut up. Silence is golden. Who cares if they hold a different belief structure?
This is good training for the future when you’ll probably be working around crazy women.

Good luck

[STORMParticipant 738]

With the economic state we’re in young MGTOW’s are in hell. Unless you have a profession, because the average job gets you nowhere. You’re lucky if you can afford a s~~~ty appartment, and the thought of owning your own home is like a tree reaching for sun. I was actually going to make a thread about how massively expensive it is for young men to live alone, but forgot to. When you add up all of lifes costs, rent, car payment, car insurance, food, bathroom products, dental insurance, dental bills, medical insurance, medical bills, clothing, internet bill, phone bill etc etc …

Unlike young females, we don’t get 18 years of free child support checks, section 8 housing, food stamps etc. The system hates us.

If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.

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