Overpopulation / Behavioral Sink

[theseekerParticipant 32]

This is about a study done with rats and mice on overpopulation (but maybe social overstimulation is the cause as it might apply to humans) in which 8 mice multiply to thousands in a mouse utopia then go extinct.

i would like to hear your thoughts regarding this study tied to mgtow, mra, feminism and other social movements and the state of the world today.

please discuss…

http://www.returnofkings.com/36915/what-humans-can-learn-from-the-mice-utopia-experiment

[13-JzzalParticipant 134]

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[RoyDalParticipant]

I was still in my blue pill phase when I saw the film that is now posted on YouTube. It scared the crap out of me. It also reinforced my lifelong aversion to living in cities. I always hated crowds, after that film I could point to why.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ThouMGTOWParticipant 22]

What would be the ideal worldwide population for you personally?

Mine would be about 1-2 Billion people.

[Anonymous 13]

Below 500000 no laborers are necessary with automation.

 

Just playing, im not a grandiose smug bitch who wants worshiped becuase they simply desire to control other poeple.

[ThouMGTOWParticipant 22]

Schools are becoming overcrowded. My cousin in Canada has just over 40 other students in her class. It’s disgusting…Its going to make them uninterested and anxious.

[ApocrypheParticipant 8]

Let’s start WW3 then! Let’s make it a gentlemen’s agreement : from (date) to (date), everyone fights everyone. Survival of the fittest in it’s purest form

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I wonder, if with humans, if the overcrowding would be something else but space.  If it is increasingly so economically, where the prospects of making enough money to support a family becomes less and less real for single men, then I can see they mouse utopia experiment would manifest in humans and we have what we have now.  For a strictly financial reality alone, it is utterly inane for most men to think about getting married and having kids.  I say this here, without even touching the hoard of other MGTOW related horror information, just practical levels.

The way things are going, to be competitive, young adults are going to have to get even more college and education, and delay even further entering the job market.  This is going to make for a bubble of less than 3 years (as opposed to the 5-10 year window now) before the woman hits the wall and really can’t have kids.  Economic conditions are going to make it not doable to raise decent kids they way globalization is going.

So I have to wonder what else causes the behavior sink to happen with humans.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[VictorParticipant 124]

What is the basis for this belief in over-population?  I see no evidence for it and believe it to be a myth.  The Earth is abundant with resources and there are technological solutions to resourcing problems.

The real issues are the nature of the socio-economic system globally and the type of people who breeding at high rates.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Victor wrote:

What is the basis for this belief in over-population? I see no evidence for it and believe it to be a myth. The Earth is abundant with resources and there are technological solutions to resourcing problems. The real issues are the nature of the socio-economic system globally and the type of people who breeding at high rates.

The behavior sink was said to be argued based on overpopulation, or something else that couldn’t be found.  What you see with the behavior sink is happening with modern westernized societies, for reasons people can’t figure out, if they know about it.  It isn’t over-population, but increased numbers not having children, and birthrates declining, plus a ton of other weirdness, and it isn’t over-population, like the mouse utopia/behavior sink.  It is like a species realizes they don’t need any more of their species and then they do things to reduce birthrates.

So, the bigger question here is: If MGTOW/Herbivores, and other things, are signs of the behavior sink with humans, what is causing it?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 3]

Victor wrote:

What is the basis for this belief in over-population? I see no evidence for it and believe it to be a myth. The Earth is abundant with resources and there are technological solutions to resourcing problems. The real issues are the nature of the socio-economic system globally and the type of people who breeding at high rates.

We are extremely overpopulated. That’s why we have such large government, low wages and so little opportunity.

If the population is normal or low, land is cheap, opportunity is available, jobs are easy to get for men, there isn’t a large government and women aren’t being pandered to, because most men are busy succeeding on their own merit rather than supporting large government to protect women.

When the population gets too high for whatever reason the weakest most assholish people start governing and making up stupid rules to screw honest people over with. Bureaucracy, endless regulation, not allowing men to carry weapons and defend themselves, etc.

[ApocrypheParticipant 8]

Another problem that’s on the way is caused by education…

A large part of the population starts to work around the age of 15-18. Many of them have babies by the age of 20-22.

A small part of the population studies until they’re 25-30… and have babies in their 30’s

This leads to the conclusion that, inevitably, uneducated people will be more and more numerous.

Possible solutions I see are :

-having babies at the age of 20-25. It doesn’t have to be mandatory, but it could be socially accepted and infrastructure could be set to allow people to find a partner and have children before going for higher education

– raising the average level of education

And to solve overpopulation problems, there’s only one answer : going to space. That’s obviously our biological role in the ecosystem… And so far, we can each claim thousands of galaxies… So “overpopulation” is a dirty word xD

[Tom YoungParticipant 48]

As i like to say, Bill Burr said it best.

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