Out of the Blue, After 8 years of NO CONTACT

[ClutchParticipant 48]

The story so far, HS sweethearts, I end up giving an ultimatum and eventually breaking up with her. It was messy. She begins a strict regime of no contact. She continues dating my hasty “replacement” and they’ve been married several years. Life goes on.

So, now almost 8 years since the most recent message we exchanged on Facebook(2011), she breaks no contact. Last month my Grandmother died in a relatively unexpected death, while in the ICU. So I see a message a couple of weeks after the funeral. “I wanted to give my condolences to you. Hope you are well. Please know I’ll listen if you want to talk.”. Well, I guess, that’s no more, no contact. (I also lost my other Grandmother in a similar manner close to 2 years ago, now.) So, I’m a little puzzled at exactly why she would suddenly offer her condolences now. I’ve lost close friends and have been to several tragic funerals since she’s been no contact, but haven’t seen or heard a peep.

For some other context, she and her best friend(when we were dating) reached out and requested to friend me on Facebook about 3 years ago and I ignored it. So far, I haven’t replied back to her yet. My reasoning being, why respond to you after all of these years? You shut me out of your life, shut me out of your friend’s lives, why should I suddenly act like that was all for not? She was cold and harsh to me. Why not return the favor?

What angle is she pulling? What would she get out of trying to reopen communications with an ex, after 8 years, now that she’s happily married? Looking for some sage wisdom from the elder MGTOWs on this subject. Personally, I’m comfortable giving her the cold shoulder I’ve received for all these years.

[Anonymous 1]

Sometimes people are curious to see if your life went to hell as a result of the breakup and no contact. Im sure shes really a nice person that needs to be sent back to bitch school because, who cares why she wants to bath in your pain and torment. It provides emotional currency for her to drink it in like a succubus. Theme song from the Omen playing.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3766]

Well, something’s going on with the other guy and she might want to know if you’re available, because she doesn’t want to find a job to sustain her own existence. She wants someone else to do it for her, so you’re “him”.

Change your number and DO NOT try and find out what is going on with her. Enforce the no-contact clause by not replying AT ALL.

Also, my sympathies for your grandma.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

Thank you, kindly. I’ve noticed that death sadly, always shows me the worst in people. I had a friend whose best friend was murdered, and he used the sympathy from women to advance with them in the bedroom. Tasteless, and reminds me to stay humble.

Apparently, her life hasn’t been all sunshine and roses. I’ve had my fair share of problems and struggles too. One thing that I’ve always noticed is that every now and again, I’ll see her ‘Look’. It’s that picture with a certain facial expression that is meant to target and attract. It’s usually posted randomly or she’ll pull up a look from several years ago to ‘hint’ and ‘bait’. I’ve always kept wondering if she’s just rolling with the punches out of spite still. Maybe she’s hit the point where she can no longer keep up the act? (Just my thoughts)

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3766]

A look ? Like Blue Steel ? lol

Well, that’s possible but I think moving on completely is the sane thing to do. She shouldn’t be your problem anymore.

[Duke TogoParticipant 2664]

Clutch wrote:

What angle is she pulling? What would she get out of trying to reopen communications with an ex, after 8 years, now that she’s happily married? Looking for some sage wisdom from the elder MGTOWs on this subject. Personally, I’m comfortable giving her the cold shoulder I’ve received for all these years.

Who gives a f~~~. One chance per woman per lifetime. Cut off all communications and forget this. The answer is simple but it has to be repeated many times here.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

I like the Zoolander reference.

You’re right about chances, I gave her 2 chances(Being my first, and HS sweethearts when I was still blue pilled). The others since haven’t had multiple chances. I’ve been pretty fair, and impartial in holding up my end of having strict boundaries and not playing games; sticking to my word. Since being red-pilled I don’t even have to worry anymore, monk mode is a blessing.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

I think that you should be looking forward to 9 years of No CONTACT !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[ClutchParticipant 48]

Well, I am still ‘Visible’. She was able to contact me even though we aren’t friends. If I really wanted to be petty I could treat her like did me and block her, and cut off all communications even through mutual friends and what little info she has. My info can dry up and disappear completely. I’ve chosen to stay on the ‘X’, purely from a strategic posture of gathering any OSINT that I can. Makes hiding in plain sight easier.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22531]

Clutch wrote:

The story so far, HS sweethearts, I end up giving an ultimatum and eventually breaking up with her. It was messy. She begins a strict regime of no contact. She continues dating my hasty “replacement” and they’ve been married several years. Life goes on.
So, now almost 8 years since the most recent message we exchanged on Facebook(2011), she breaks no contact. Last month my Grandmother died in a relatively unexpected death, while in the ICU. So I see a message a couple of weeks after the funeral. “I wanted to give my condolences to you. Hope you are well. Please know I’ll listen if you want to talk.”. Well, I guess, that’s no more, no contact. (I also lost my other Grandmother in a similar manner close to 2 years ago, now.) So, I’m a little puzzled at exactly why she would suddenly offer her condolences now. I’ve lost close friends and have been to several tragic funerals since she’s been no contact, but haven’t seen or heard a peep.
For some other context, she and her best friend(when we were dating) reached out and requested to friend me on Facebook about 3 years ago and I ignored it. So far, I haven’t replied back to her yet. My reasoning being, why respond to you after all of these years? You shut me out of your life, shut me out of your friend’s lives, why should I suddenly act like that was all for not? She was cold and harsh to me. Why not return the favor?
What angle is she pulling? What would she get out of trying to reopen communications with an ex, after 8 years, now that she’s happily married? Looking for some sage wisdom from the elder MGTOWs on this subject. Personally, I’m comfortable giving her the cold shoulder I’ve received for all these years.

F~~~ing block her number, block her emails, do not contact her, do not reply to her at all. Shes putting out feelers, she is wanting to dump her husbank and monkeybranch to a chad, you in this case, to prove her sexual market value is still high and she can get who she wants.

Do not f~~~ing dealcwith her, block her on all comm platforms.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

What’s most odd about this sudden break in no contact and earlier attempts at befriending me is my situation. I know that she has mutual friends that can feed her information about me, also, I’m not that hard to find living in a small town. I have no value in any of the female markets. I have nothing of value(money, status, house, car, career, education), and nothing to offer. This adds to the intrigue, why would she down-grade if there is nothing to gain from it? I must mention that also, I am her only ex, she has only experienced two relationships. I have been around the block enough times to fill a bottle with red-pills. I’ve been burned enough times to know not to reach for the hot stove. There are no NAWALTs.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22531]

Clutch wrote:

What’s most odd about this sudden break in no contact and earlier attempts at befriending me is my situation. I know that she has mutual friends that can feed her information about me, also, I’m not that hard to find living in a small town. I have no value in any of the female markets. I have nothing of value(money, status, house, car, career, education), and nothing to offer. This adds to the intrigue, why would she down-grade if there is nothing to gain from it? I must mention that also, I am her only ex, she has only experienced two relationships. I have been around the block enough times to fill a bottle with red-pills. I’ve been burned enough times to know not to reach for the hot stove. There are no NAWALTs.

Asi said she sees you as a chad. chads dont need money, thats what the beta husbank provides. she wants to see if she can attract you back, someone who was hot for her and who she was hot for too. shes been with husbank 8 years, this is the big timeframe marker for them to cheat. its an ego boost for her to f~~~ a chad. she doesnt care if you have money, shes f~~~ing bored and trying to prove her smv is still high.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

From what I’m hearing, no matter what happens, other than the continuation of my no contact mirroring of hers. Any attempt to answer is only taking the bait that has been set in front of me. If I answer, it only takes me down multiple paths of failure. I’m just trying to figure out if I should call her out and ask her why she’s only bothered to pester me now of all times? I see it as a bold good-faith attempt on her part, but nothing good can come from this on my end.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

She’s on the prowl. No doubt about it.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

Is there any low-risk way to spin this back at her, and let karma do its thing? Trust me, I just redpilled myself for a good while, by creeping on her Facebook page, and was reminded that she started dating her current “chad”, the day after my birthday. So she isn’t a complete bitch, just one day away from it. The more I look, the more I’m reminded, of why I left and didn’t look back. [There are many, many reasons why I ended things with an ultimatum…]

[bstoffParticipant 4865]

The low-risk way to spin this back on her is to simply not respond and continue ghosting.
Get on with your life and forget about her and her prying friends.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22531]

Clutch wrote:

From what I’m hearing, no matter what happens, other than the continuation of my no contact mirroring of hers. Any attempt to answer is only taking the bait that has been set in front of me. If I answer, it only takes me down multiple paths of failure. I’m just trying to figure out if I should call her out and ask her why she’s only bothered to pester me now of all times? I see it as a bold good-faith attempt on her part, but nothing good can come from this on my end.

GODAM F~~~ING HELL DO NOT F~~~ING CALL HER. JEEBUS MAN DO NOT F~~~ING CALL OR CONTACT HER. WE HAVE TOLD YOU WHY, AND TO BE CLEAR IT DOESNT F~~~ING MATTER WHAT HER REASON IS BECAUSE ITS NOT A GOOD ONE, THAT YOU KNOW FOR SURE.

ARE YOU A F~~~ING PLANT HERE? F~~~ING LISTEN.

It is obvious in your responses and questions you are pleading for someone to agree its a good idea to talk to her. you care waaaay too f~~~ing much about this, you care waaaay to much about why she wants to contact you. it should not even register 1 tick on you as to why. you are thinking with little dick and the fragmented remnants of romantic feelings from long ago.

i can mentally hear you saying ‘yes but’, so none of this stuff is sinking in. welcome to hell, again. dont say everyone here didn’t warn your ass.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

You may be right. Ultimately, I think she wants closure, and to right the wrongs of the past. Funny, how the past can sneak up. Keeps people up at night. I know that she wants to make peace, otherwise, her ignorance of how I truly feel will eat away at her. Cursing someone, literally(like crazy occult stuff on video) can cause some bad karma, and when you know that the victim(Me) knows about it, well kinda of difficult to apologize. By denying her that resolve, I can keep her guessing.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

Hey, hey, hey…Easy…Yes, I am listening; to everyone. No, I suggest you don’t take up that kind of attitude with me. I get that you’re trying to make a point, but you don’t need to be so disrespectful about it.

[ClutchParticipant 48]

Oh, and thanks for covertly editing your response. No need for such hostilities.

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