Once you’re married… It’s just a game

[BeeParticipant 700]

Okay, I am sick and tired of married men coming here and stating that they are MGTOW.
You are a married man, You are not MGTOW.
It’s like a being a prostitute and a nun at the same time, you Cant be both! being one negates the other, ah and on a side note staying in an ugly marriage because of the kids??? F~~~ the kids!!! they will grow up and give you the finger while leaving the house anyway, so my advise to any man out there, you want to be free, you want to be happy? you want to be a real MGTOW, you divorce the bitch and give the finger to HER kids ( under the eyes of the law, they are HERS not YOURS ).

I think it was Sandman who came up with an acronym AWM (Awakened While Married) to describe a man who discovers red pill while married. You have to understand that this information was not available before the internet….before the internet made it so easy to put out self-edited content (you tube, forums). Red pill information was like the formula for Coca Cola. Growing up, there was one man who told me in all sincerity, “bed them, don’t wed them”. Hardly anybody spoke of the quiet desperation of the married man. The closest thing I can think of is the sitcom “Married… with Children: and Al Bundy. Most MGTOW are probably too young to have watched the show.

Sometimes we come here and complain. Maybe sometimes it is a way to vent and relieve stress and not make lasting changes. A couple important contributions we make are 1) You can learn from us. You don’t have to go down this path. 2) Provide support to each other, knowing you aren’t alone and you aren’t going crazy. Understand that most marriages aren’t 100% good or 100% bad. It is common for couples to struggle for years before divorcing.

This stuff came too late for me. Knowing what I know now, I’d tell my young adult self to do things differently. I probably would not get married. I probably would not have stayed in Kansas City. I probably should have pursued passion in my work instead of security and stability I probably would not be tied to a mortgage.

However, here I am. I have a 10 year old daughter who adores me. The most important thing to me is to be there for her on a daily basis, not every other weekend.

As far as “f~~~ the kids”, if you really want to f~~~ over your kids, have them grow up without a father. The absence of the father causes all sorts of problems. I know this, and I love my kid, so I do it for the kid.

[BeeParticipant 700]

Also, I didn’t have that much personal experience with relationships in the past. My experience now (along with my 40 year old sex drive) is making me come to the conclusion that all of it – game, dating, relations~~~s, marriage, is more trouble than it is worth.

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