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Hey, guys! Thank you a lot for doing such a great service of helping other men to finally realize that they have been mistreated and abused their whole lives by women and man-hating-society. I swallowed the red pill not so long ago and it was the best moment of my life. I’m still trying to get rid of the “white-knight-mentality” and I have some unanswered questions.
We all want to live in a world with no double standards, right? In order to get a step closer to this world slut-shaming must be eradicated. I personally believe that women should be able to sleep around and not fear the societal judgment. What do you think? Is MGTOW for or against slut-shaming?Fascinating question. Welcome(!) and thanks for dropping it. (and joining!)
It’s important to understand why “slut shaming” exists. It exists for a specific reason.
In order for a man to enjoy many sexual partners, it requires A LOT of work.
• Many years at the gym + an impressive amount of dedication.
• Patience. For he is more attractive to women as he ages and establishes himself after EARNING his way out of worthlessness.
• Business, professional and financial success.
• “Social proofing”
• Assets and resources
• Social, economic and/or political power
• Fame
• A fancy car or two and his own home
… you get the idea.In order for a woman to enjoy many sexual partners, all that’s required is the willingness – and to not be a land whale. Even being slim requires no real effort, compared to a man. She just needs to keep the fork out of her mouth.
Consensual sex only takes place when a WOMAN wants it to.
And all it takes for that to happen, is her consent.
A man cannot simply consent in order to make sex happen, and that is the key difference.This is why men are revered for enjoying many sexual partners – and women are “slut shamed” for it. Because he must bring infinitely more to the table. Even more importantly, women CULTIVATE this themselves. The more she expects a man to do (and have) in order to get laid, the MORE he will be revered and respected for enjoying many women. The LESS that is required from her, the less she can be “respected”. Therefore, “slut shaming” can never go away because women PREFER it this way.
When the criteria for sex (and the price of vagina) is as high as it is, and the more women expect for access to their love gates, the more they can expect to be shamed when they cheat on the “boyfriend”….. who is expected to meet all kinds of outrageous criteria, and pay for everything, do all the work, entertaining and jumping through hoops for her affections. Women are simply not required to have six-figure salaries in order to get laid. But countless women on dating sites won’t even consider meeting a man for a coffee unless he meets a laundry list of demands – including a six-figure salary. It takes quite a bit for a man to rake in $100K and she expects this before considering a first meeting? She is personally guaranteeing she will be slut-shamed when she cheats on her man.
So I’m afraid “slut shaming” will always exist. Like it or not. MGTOW or not.
It is not dependent on the male. It is dependent on the female.Women are actually more guilty than men of “slut shaming”. For every girl who gives it away for free is effectively lowering every whore’s “price”. This is why “good girls” who attempt to withhold their affections from a man until he pays the highest possible price (a marriage contract and diamond ring and 1/2 of his net worth) will HATE the woman who enjoys sex openly, often and freely. She will even “slut-shame” that girl herself.
When women bring their expectations down to an acceptable level, only then will you see a reduction in slut shaming. Theoretically, if all sex was free and all women were content with a strictly sex-for-sex exchange, and the only requirement for a man to enjoy may partners is his willingness, “sluts” would cease to exist – and they couldn’t be shamed any more for it.
Women will never allow that to happen.
On the flip side, there is a certain amount of RESPECT to be had for “sluts”.
After all, at least they are not running around pretending they are NOT sluts.The “double standard” exists, because women WANT it to exist.
Here it is explained succinctly, and directly from our own “quotes” page:“A key that opens many locks is a master key.
A lock that opens for many keys…. is just a s~~~ty lock”.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.“A key that opens many locks is a master key.
A lock that opens for many keys…. is just a s~~~ty lock”.F~~~. That’s genius.
Hey, KeyMaster! An awesome reply, thank you! It all makes total sense, but I still have some questions. I agree that it’s in the best interest of women to cultivate the culture of “slut-shaming”, because it drives their price up. As a man I don’t want to pay much therefore it’s in my best interest to fight against “slut-shaming” and protect sluts from being harshly judged by society. Does it make any sense to you?
I’m sorry for not being able to convey my thoughts properly — English is my second language. I live in Russia and everybody here hates sluts to the highest extent possible. And as a side effect of this men jump through the hoops to get laid. A huge percent of guys get to have sex only when they get married (if they are lucky). Women just don’t give it up, because they know men won’t get sex anywhere else. So, I figure if there’s more sex for men, they won’t be so easily manipulated.Hey Manid, English isn’t my first language either. But understand you perfectly. Your English is 1000x better than my Russian.
Yes it makes perfect sense and I happened to agree with you. That’s why I mentioned there is a certain “respect” to have for sluts. But women who enjoy sex openly and freely are not actually “sluts”. They are just not prostitutes and those are the only women I can tolerate. Sex if it’s free, or it’s not going to happen. Personally, I am SO opposed to “paying for sex”. The kind of girl who has it when she wants it is the kind I WILL call again.
“Slut shaming” (as in the link I provided above) is for women with boyfriends or husbands who expect him to bring all kinds of things to a committed relationship… and then has sex with another guy for free. (The radio host calls her a “whore” – but that is the wrong word in this case. She is a slut, plain and simple. Of the worst kind.)
So it’s key to understand the difference between “slut” (who has sex with someone else while in a relationship) …
v.s a chick who is reasonable about her expectations and believes a sex-for-sex-echange is equal and fair.I can only “respect” the second kind.
The over-priced whore that withholds sex from the man she pretends to “love” until a marriage contract is signed can go find some other sucker to pay her price. But you asked about the general stance on “slut shaming” in the MGTOW community. So that’s how I answered you. My personal stance on the matter might differ from some, because there might be MGTOW who prefer women to be chaste. I don’t personally expect her to be a virgin. But I do expect her to be 100% faithful if she is looking to me for all kinds of other nonsense. I also know that when a woman has 5+ sexual partners in her life, the probability of her initiating a divorce is +75%. She loses her ability to bond with only one male. The more dicks that have ravaged her, the less she will be mesmerized by any one of them.
Chaste? No.
Faithful, Yes.You are correct in assuming if a woman gets away with withholding sex until the wedding, you can bet she will continue that behavior AFTER the wedding. “Fix the bathroom tiles, honey, or there will no sex tonight”. What a nightmare. That is a form of “manipulation” you are speaking about… lording it over a man’s head as some kind of *reward* when he is a good boy and does whatever she wants. Forget it.
In short, I’m not much of a slut-shamer. I almost prefer them.
But if a girlfriend (or wife) is a slut, she ceases to exist and becomes instantly invisible to me.
Perhaps other MGTOW will chime in on this in their own way.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Weird I found something, I have to think about this article. According to this article slut shaming actually has to with a woman’s social class then sexual behavior.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/29/slut-shaming-study.html
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
From what I can understand the researchers came to the conclusion that sexual double standards are established and upheld by women, to men’s disadvantage. Thank you, CrazyCanuck!
.. and it enforces my original point. The “double standard” is created, enforced and perpetuated by women. Thanks for that link! Any blame on MEN is just their attempt to drag us into a war between themselves and each other.
Men are out there busting their butts making successes of themselves and working like mad dogs at the gym to get some trim… while women are fighting with each other over who is “more easy” when she lays down and spreads her legs. It’s hilarious.
The idea that a Latina is “trashy” for blowing some dude in a bathroom stall but a nice white girl who lives off the lake is “more respectable” for the same behavior…. is like a urinal and a toilet fighting over whether or not it’s “better” to be p~~~ed in – or s~~~ in.
(NOW look what you made me do..)
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.LMAO!!!
and it enforces my original point. The “double standard” is created, enforced and perpetuated by women.
That was a great point and makes a lot of sense. From my view it seems women are more nastier to women than men are. I think most men could look past girls slutty past if they really liked her and she wasn’t with too many guys,but other women would still look down on her.
I myself slut shame, but I am an equal opportunist and shame both men and women. Not that I do it to their face or look down on them, but if I am watching Maury and a woman has slept with over 10 men and can’t find the father or my sister has Jersey Shore on and I see the guys talking about their sex partners I will be like “wow what a hoe”. All in good fun for me although I wouldn’t date a girl who slutted around while in college and after because of the way I think.
The idea that a Latina is “trashy” for blowing some dude in a bathroom stall but a nice white girl who lives off the lake is “more respectable” for the same behavior…. is like a urinal and a toilet fighting over whether or not it’s “better” to be p~~~ed in – or s~~~ in.
That is awesome lol.
Let’s not overlook the evolutionary aspect of the double standard gents! A man can sire a thousand young in the time it takes a woman to become the mother of one. The nature of the 9 month gestation period itself demands that women be more selective of their partners. A woman who sleeps around on impulse is therefore deemed unworthy of motherhood by society. If a women is unfit for bringing in the next generation of men, then she has failed her evolutionary role. I’m not talking about barren women. I won’t chastise a person for their genetics. I’m talking about a women who, with purpose, proves herself to society as a selfish slut. The birth control pill is the most evil thing ever conceived, implemented, and abused by women today. My sister takes it just so that she has fewer periods.
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
Yeah and if you have 10 men and 100 women within 9 months you can easily have 100 babies while if you had only 10 women and 100 men you could only get about 9 babies a month. Granted that was meant for cave men times, but as we have all seen women these days will sleep with anybody and seem to let the douche bag men reproduce while the actual guys who should reproduce get nothing.
The birth control pill is the most evil thing ever conceived, implemented, and abused by women today. My sister takes it just so that she has fewer periods.
Is that really a bad thing though to not want to have so many periods? What if women said condoms were one of the most evil things ever conceived lol.
Is that really a bad thing though to not want to have so many periods? What if women said condoms were one of the most evil things ever conceived lol.
Men say that about condoms lol! The birth control pill was first widely available to all women in 1972. It gave women access to promiscuity without the fear of pregnancy. Before the pill, women had no choice but to be cautious and enforce on the man the responsibility of birth control. The pill came along and gave women the agency to protect themselves from the horrors of an unwanted pregnancy. This in and of itself was not a bad thing and the pill was created with the best of intentions I’m sure, but the unforeseen ramifications of giving women the power of male-like promiscuity has given rise to the modern women of today. I don’t necessarily mind that women have the ability to be promiscuous, I just despise how women have taken this liberty and warped it into the feminism that we see today. They might not even have done it conscientiously, but I believe that it was a major, if not THE major catalyst for women to start believing that they are our equals.
And my sister (like tens of thousands of others) got a prescription simply to alleviate her female curse. Yeah right!
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
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Men are out there busting their butts making successes of themselves and working like mad dogs at the gym to get some trim…Why are we doing this? I like a good f~~~ as much as the next guy, but the price you’re describing is way too high for the merchandise. And by doing this, we perpetuate our own problems. As long as there are men willing to pay that high a price for pussy, that’s how much women are going to expect for it.
STOP THE MADNESS!
Why are we doing this? I like a good f~~~ as much as the next guy, but the price you’re describing is way too high for the merchandise
Men are realizing this at an EPIC rate.
It doesn’t matter how much men are willing to pay…
women will ALWAYS expect more.If ONE guy is willing to buy her a fancy dinner, she will think “well maybe I can get a guy to buy me jewelry!”
If ONE guy is willing to buy her a diamond, she will wonder if there are any out there willing to buy her an ISLAND.However, nature does a really good job of ensuring women can’t keep this up for long. One of the most tremendous responses to the modern entitlement chicks can be found here. We haven’t immortalized it on our site yet, but we certainly will.
Men everywhere are realizing that sex is not priceless like women pretend. It’s a WORTHLESS commodity that grows on trees and is available to any man anywhere for less trouble, money, effort and time than women want you to believe. Every guy who is overpaying for vagina learns this eventually, and that’s when her outrageous whore price plummets.
Men are realizing this at an epic rate….
Probably more than at ANY other time in human history.
• 1/2 of the country of Japan is totally disinterested in pursuing women.
• 14 year old kid genius considers girls a complete WASTE OF TIME and says so on national TV
• MGTOW interest is explodingA girl I knew ages ago emailed me to tell me how handsome I am – after seeing me in a picture wearing a suit – which is something she never told me in the entire time I knew her. Now her eggs and options are drying up and she got NO REPLY FROM ME. Women have over-leveraged. The men who fall over themselves for pussy are like dogs who chase cars. What would he DO with the car when he catches up to it?
NOTHING. He would just stand there, lose complete interest and walk away.
Every guy who chases tail and wastes his energy on it, will learn it wasn’t worth it.
The only vagina that’s worth it, is the kind that is thrown at you for free.
Otherwise, it simply doesn’t pay. And men ARE learning.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@”JGillis”
…. is that some reference to the lead male character in Sunset Boulevard? Or a coincidence.
PS.Great Avatar.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous0at 60 i still love pussy,not so much for most people.
This double standard is one backed by logic. It makes complete sense. Slut-shaming is completely acceptable. Women bitch about it, but then again, they are emotional. They aren’t the greatest thinkers…
Supply and demand.
I saw the lock & key analogy has already been posted; well done. I was going to bring that to the table as well but it appears some of you are already well aware of it.
Niko… it can’t be stated often enough. We always hear about men cheating and how we are goddam bastards for it, but we PAY for it. A man PAYS for that mistake. And he’s never gonna come home from screwing around and toss his wife (or girlfriend) a baby and say “here this is yours. Support that s~~~.” But women expect men to pay when WOMEN make the mistakes. They are the most guilty of enforcing the “double standard” they pretend to hate. Damn right slut shaming is acceptable. It’s a requirement.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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