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Alcoholics…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Anonymous1Alcoholics…
Found the real troll.
He’ll drudge up threads and quotes but he’ll hope you won’t have time for the full context. He just posted this above – a thread about me picking a fight a f~~~ing year ago when I was drunk:
Truth hurts.
First you behave like s~~~ and then think everything is alright after apologizing…
That Matrix thread was a whole s~~~storm of completely antisocial behavior.
Why not behave in a way that you don’t need to apologize for in the first place…???
That would be the way to go. But it would take some self-reflection.
Now you are barking up my tree and I tell you the same what Matrix already told you in a different language.
P~~~ing on me while you will not find one thread of the 3400 threads I was on, in which I went off on anybody and started fights for no reason.
You behave like a woman. No accountability. First insulting the hell out of people for no reason and then apologizing but doing it again. Like you did it here. You have just proven my point. Going off – like a borderline woman – on people who simply post the truth.
This “Matrix” thread is real and not “invented” by me.
I was never a character assassin. You made yourself looked upon like this. I don’t drink and then mess with people here. Never.
Yes, members here are now proud of you.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Ever self reflected why Matrix also left here?
Insults are insults, they stay, no matter how well you apologize for them.
And I am very sure that this happened more often and with other members as well. Don’t make me dig it up.
Remember:
We are a help site to save men from suicide and other pitfalls of the gynocentric society.
That is the mission. Not starting fights and making us look worse than the women we complain about.
Men are not helped by coming here and getting f~~~ed with by someone not even strong enough to refuse the bottle. In this case men would be better off watching YouTube or else.
I am actually glad that the sign-up was closed.
Self-reflect why 33000 members are not posting…???
It’s not me, I was welcomed on other sites. Even the one with the ban-hammer. Well a part from here was already kicked out from there.
The mission is “the topic called MGTOW” and not going off on a member who did nothing wrong. Or whose post was too long or whatever.And then blaming it on Jagr for pulling the plug. No self-reflection.
I did not get banned from there.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Anonymous1Joller984 wrote:
He’ll drudge up threads and quotes but he’ll hope you won’t have time for the full context. He just posted this above – a thread about me picking a fight a f~~~ing year ago when I was drunk:Truth hurts.
First you behave like s~~~ and then think everything is alright after apologizing…
That Matrix thread was a whole s~~~storm of completely antisocial behavior
The truth does hurt sir, and that’s why I apologized, because men know when they got it wrong.
Now you are barking up my tree and I tell you the same what Matrix already told you in a different language.
Incorrect. You barked up mine and I’m merely responding – sorry you’re not use to men giving it back. Judging from your previous posts as a youngster, you like to fight women.
Like you did it here. You have just proven my point. Going off – like a borderline woman – on people who simply post the truth.
Who’s going off? I’m not sure it’s me, old chap. Also, put down your book on cluster B personality’s. I’ve also read what you have read – it doesn’t make you right.
This “Matrix” thread is real and not “invented” by me.
Please provide evidence that I said you created it. You twist the truth don’t you? Wow.
Anonymous1It’s not me, I was welcomed on other sites.
The go there. Stop being a little bitch and f~~~ off
It’s not me, I was welcomed on other sites.
The go there. Stop being a little bitch and f~~~ off
I already did.
But I keep my promise to watch out for trolls of any kind. But that won’t save this place… I wonder if any of the 33000 members are now coming forward to post here. Hope they bring new levels of discussion here.
My time is up anyway. The things that need discussing in the future require a different platform. More than 140 characters.
Since 2 weeks I have stopped posting in any “topic” thread and I now do this elsewhere. And at least 1/4 of my 10700 posts are being converted into 1000’s of article size topics.Helping men without forum drama.
And then converting it into German. (FYI: these posts were NOT “thought” in German and I have no problem speaking the “th” and different dialects) But it will be first real big German MGTOW resource.
I am only logged in here to copy my texts without the censor mask.
Anyway, why does it make people nervous seeing me logged in?
Yes, they are afraid of me chiming in when they post lies and excel in gaslighting facts.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Anonymous1Anyway, why does it make people nervous seeing me logged in?
I wasn’t aware it did, so I can’t answer that.
I am only logged in here to copy my texts without the censor mask.
Then continue, my friend.
Gargamel wrote:
This “Matrix” thread is real and not “invented” by me.
Please provide evidence that I said you created it. You twist the truth don’t you? Wow.
Calling me a “character assassin” implies that I make up FAKE facts to the detriment of a 3rd party…
And I was saying that these facts are not fake aka not of my own making.
“Character assassins” usually invent stories. I didn’t. I just have a detailed memory and a strong dislike of hypocrites.
I get attacked simply for reproducing the truth accurately with reference to the source.
And I no longer care whose “feelings” I hurt by confronting them with things they did in the past that all lead to the big walk out.
Calling my posts “drivel” and “spam” – especially by those who only posted to start fights and provoke others “triggered me”.
You might call it that.
Those posters who only made 140 character bulls~~~ comments were the loudest. Like it was in school.
Most of my cat pics got more +1s than the posts of those “contributors”. And that’s what p~~~es them off.
LOL.
Again, in any thread they “ignore” 3 pages of my interactive replies (and tons of +1s on them) and then get hung up on the cat pic on page 4… And then use this to badmouth me.
If my posts were really “spam” or “drivel” then why do I have 28000 +1s???
Almost nobody here thinks before bitching.
Fact is that this s~~~ is being pulled on newcomers as well and that’s why this forum has 33000 silent members who do not dare to make an introduction and expose themselves to this snake pit.
KM can’t help you with this, he wasn’t around to see it.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Anonymous1Calling my posts “drivel” and “spam” – especially by those who only posted to start fights and provoke others “triggered me”.
Wrong. Nobody has used those words – yet another invention by you.
I get attacked simply for reproducing the truth accurately with reference to the source
You produce threads with no context to suit your argument – mostly archaic.
“Character assassins” usually invent stories. I didn’t. I just have a detailed memory and a strong dislike of hypocrites.
Garbage.
OldBill has been gone for over 3 months..You guys do you expect him to pop in with these girly talks?? Nope ain’t going to happen… got an idea 💡 here that might sparks his inspiration and who knows might entertain him too!!
Ты мой человек = You are my man!
In your memory OldBill whom loved to come after us mere mortals!
You must own a better Crystal ball than IWrong. Nobody has used those words – yet another invention by you.
Not in this thread but elsewhere.
You produce threads with no context to suit your argument – mostly archaic.
Yes, but I am known across MGTOW now. And I get countless PMs of men thanking me for what I write.
Another dumb insult.
You just don’t see the context.
Like you did not see the context of Matrix making these “repetitive posts” not to annoy YOU but to warn other men. We are doing this for free and we are not lunatics. At least we do not drink and take drugs. Nor pills.
If a topic is not your cup of tea, it might be a life saver for others. And that’s why we are here. We are not here to please your little bitchy entitlement.
Gargamel wrote:
“Character assassins” usually invent stories. I didn’t. I just have a detailed memory and a strong dislike of hypocrites.
Garbage.
I let the other last sane men here decide if what I said is garbage or not.
Hypocrite.
We talk about women making up false accusations ALL OF THE TIME. 100’s of threads. But some on here do the same without realizing it.
“Character assassins” do make up stories. As sure as there is air in car tires. And what I say is not “garbage”.
See, I am fed up with this and your crap.
And it feels good to feed these pills down your throat.
Bring me real arguments and “direct link” quotes to threads where I allegedly done something wrong.
You are the real character assassin.
What is out of context?
Well OldBill told you to say that, I understand.
Me, saying more than 140 characters and offending your attention span?
Well “ignored” text can always be called “out of context”.
And if I ever did it, it was because highly interesting topics were buried in troll s~~~ (not of my making, see Matrix thread) and I tried to bounce and revamp a certain thread. Often with making statements “linked” to that topic and added them at the end of that buried topic to make it jump up the board ranking again.
And now you have the chance to lose all of your credibility in calling my video links “bulls~~~” or “not creative” as your “hero” Bill did it.
WHO SAVED BIG JOHN’S VIDEOS??? And MGTOW 101??? (And 4 TB of others)
Not you and not your “hero” Bill. You are only here to bitch and cause drama for other members.
I did and still DO SOMETHING FOR MGTOW.
And all you do is bitch and insult.
That’s why we took our hats and left.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
BTW, this thread gets read by more people than you probably want.
I made sure of that.
They all love it.
There is a difference between character assassination and telling things the way they are. And I have many more men from “outside of here” behind me in what I say.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
In your memory OldBill whom loved to come after us mere mortals!
Don’t worry, he will come back.
People from outside of this place know a lot more than I do. And more than most here will want to know.
I am already a “virtual Spectator” and OldBill can now come back and mess with people again.
(Just use Google and track back his posting activities and constant “apology” threads) (Well you need these when you constantly go off the rails and even have to admit it later)
Actually this is part of my strategy. If he comes back we get more members on our new site. Those who are real MGTOW and not those who love to obey some intolerant clown on a power trip who hates anyone with any kind of other lifestyle and humor.
There is a reason for disliking him. Details to be given any time.
It’s not the fight he started with me, but the can of worms I got to open when I went through his history.
That’s a fact and any reader can verify it. And now I am the “bad boy” for seeing it and calling it out.
Profile, Forums tab…, threads started (full of apologies, well think for yourself)…
And use Google to list all threads he was ever participating in. And go through them… Fights all over.
And that man is glorified. This is what p~~~es me off. That’s all. I am only speaking for the men he f~~~ed with and shoved his sense of entitlement down their throats.
If someone came here and did not live and think the way Old Bill lives and thinks, he was bombarded with “medical diagnoses” and vile insults.All insults and “criticisms” hidden in “well selected words of wisdom”… (Until I took him apart and he left)
This is no way to “behave” on an international, multi-religious and multiracial forum.
And that’s why it broke.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Just a few hours ago I thought of tuna and how I always treated these poor snowflakes like a gentleman…
Escorting them out on a red carpet made of cat fur… And stuff like that.
And the tuna faded… It got less from month to month.
Could it be that I was part of the main deterrent for females to enter our space and to mess with us?
Well, after all no tuna could ever trigger me and I never fell for their games…
“Cat pics of peace” and “to comfort them in old age” was all they got… And reasoning they could not counter.
Old Bill was highly offended by this.
Why?
For sending intruders off?
For making the site better? Fact: Tuna hunts were massive before I joined.
After all, our (the team’s) strategy worked, the tunas decreased.
There is only one answer:
Yes, I was one of the main men hampering his trolling efforts. And we sent his “Janes” and “Marys” home with a gag-ball in their mouths. And I gave them cat pics as a souvenir.
That’s why he “hated me”. (And us, since he started s~~~ with almost all top posters of that era)
Fact:
The troll s~~~ stopped the moment OldBill became silent.
He constantly ridiculed me (in multiple threads) when I said I can handle the troll problem without KM’s punt button…
Well I simply taught him that I can do what I promise.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
And I don’t accept any pecking order from some low-life alcoholic with a narcissistic power trip
It’s funny that I never mentionded you in this topic, but you really are a slimey, narcissistic, self righteous butthurt c~~~ lol.
You’re a sad little German -incredibly boring and montotone.
Constantly worrying about who said what, and misinterpreting everything.
You remind me of a woman, You really do.
Perhaps thats because you were raised in a household full of women. Something has stuck, hasn’t it?Exactly the type of language this forum needs to attract new quality posters.
LOL.
Only cursing underachievers will find this attractive.
Imagine an 6-figure income man with divorce troubles comes in here without knowing our jargon “perfectly” and gets this…
To be honest: I would never have come here looking for help since I had already seen how some “Mr. Know-It-Alls” behave here.
You don’t run a company and are a locally respected person to let things like these rain on you in some internet forum.
Spoken by someone who you’d normally hand his papers on the spot.(For the record: I came here to help and not for help… Which makes me free to go without hard feelings)
In 2016, these cases were rare. Since 2017, they happened all of the time. You now read about this on reddit and elsewhere.
KM was not here and when the cat’s away, the mice are going to play.
Hope KM turns this around.
Anyway:
Reading the old topics is still excellent and is enough to help many men in trouble.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
TROLL procedure – Anyone interacting with trolls, in any way, should lose at least 100 +1’s for each post to the troll
Omigosh!! That is sooooo super creative!! And like, maybe we should set up an official committee to supervise and regulate that new rule (the TPR: Troll Procedure Rule) and have some members authorized to enact this procedure after being certified. It’s sound like so much fun!! & We can get together on ZOOM and clean our pussies together too!! I’m soooo super excited!!
(Note: I roll back in after a break when I’ve got internet access at a Motel6 in the middle of nowhere and this is what I come back to. . . WTF)
TROLL procedure – Anyone interacting with trolls, in any way, should lose at least 100 +1’s for each post to the troll
Omigosh!! That is sooooo super creative!! And like, maybe we should set up an official committee to supervise and regulate that new rule (the TPR: Troll Procedure Rule) and have some members authorized to enact this procedure after being certified. It’s sound like so much fun!! & We can get together on ZOOM and clean our pussies together too!! I’m soooo super excited!!
(Note: I roll back in after a break when I’ve got internet access at a Motel6 in the middle of nowhere and this is what I come back to. . . WTF)This will come after I am gone. Not my problem anymore. “NFG” in our words.
Well the women on here need a safe space.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Tru Dat Garg, my brother . .
And some water & vinegar because they need to clean those holes out.
Pweeez, pweeez don’t penalize me with a 100 point disciplinary infraction.
I promise I’ll be a good little bitch for the Clitoral Tribunal & Hole Patrol
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