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Anonymous12People coming and going was the first thing i learned in life – as i was transferred
from my drugged parents
to my half brother,
to their neighbors,
to a friend of theirs,
and finally placed in a Home. (the state ruled as such)People come and go.
You are born alone cold and naked, and you will die alone cold and naked.
OldBill contributed a lot to my introduction threads (almost 1 year ago now!), and I greatly appreciated it.
He was tough, but fair.
Sometimes we need a good kick up our arses, or else we are in danger of turning into the pussies society wants us to be these days…The stuff on stoicism he promoted fits in well with leading a MGTOW life.
I’m not sure what happened, but if you are out there OldBill, it would be great to hear from you again!
I totally agree with Old Bill’s supreme tactic in handling Net Trolls.I’d already learnt this harsh truth the hard way many. many years ago.There’s only one way to deal with trolls. Ignore them, give them NO ATTENTION There’s no other way!!!!!!!!The tactic of ignore is devastating to the troll. It annihilates their online personas in an instant.
It’s totally different offline where you can humiliate and destroy someone so bad they’ll go out of their way to avoid you the rest of their life. THIS TACTIC DOESN’T WORK ONLINE, IT DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE.Any attention, especially negative attention which is seen as an emotional reaction initiated by the troll, is a confirmation of the trolls power, food for the troll. Don’t feed trolls.
However, just like Old Bill I found it’s an excruciating waste of time to try and tell people that OFFLINE tactics work in the exact reverse when used ONLINE. Old Bill should have known that, and it’s the one thing I can find fault with him for even trying. In his defense, he was just trying to help.It’d be great to see Old Bill again but I can’t blame him for a moment if he doesn’t come back after the treatment he got.I noticed he takes his own advice seriously. I didn’t see him “bite” once in all the time he was vilified.
TROLL procedure in the forums should be official and spelled out.Anyone interacting with trolls, in any way, should lose at least 100 +1’s for each post to the troll no matter how clever, witty or logical their comeback to the troll is.If they keep interacting with the troll after a couple of warnings, they should be ejected from the forums permanently with no exceptions. People who react to trolls continuously do far more damage than the troll itself.So true. Trolls are childish in mind and most likely in life. They do the trolling to get attention. Ignoring them completely is the worst thing you can do to them. I, too, would like to see old bill come back. The advice and help he gave to men who were hurting emotionally and financially worth more than most of us can say. He, most likely, saved a lot of lives and gave strength to those men who needed it the most in their trials and tribulations. He supported men when they needed it most. I was (and am) highly resentful of those who vilified and continually insulted OldBill. We need him and those like him back. There are men out there who are in pain and feel depressed because of the way they were treated by the courts and their (ex)-wives. OldBill’s steadfastness and support of those men will always be needed. Please, OldBill, come back.
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
Anonymous1Old Bill’s Avatar was Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
A comedic cartoon show that used to run on the Adult Swim Cartoon Network. With such an Avatar I thought he would have a sense of humor, but no…he didn’t.
I got into a few debates with him and found him twisting my words and metaphors around to make me look stupid. He would never address the argument itself. Just going round and round with insults.
Some of his personal stories were great.
Gargamel called him out as a Troll and you know what…I think he might be right. The Troll problems we were having at that time had to have had an inside man to provide the rapid profile updates to Gargamel’s responses. The Troll always popped up when Old Bill was logged in. Old Bill has been gone for a few months and so has the Troll. Think about what Gargamel was saying…It all makes sense. Old Bill was the inside man with multiple accounts. I hate to say it, but I think Gargamel just about proved it.
Good old bill. heh. That guy was far different from your average MGTOW, or even from just your average man in general. I’ve overheard conversations with people like him a few times in my blue pill days. Now? I’d probably come out of the shadows to share a beer with him. If you’re still out there, keep doing what you do buddy.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
If Old Bill was a troll, he was a darn good one. He quite possibly had been or was “old bill” -English colloquial term for the police. I often wondered if that was what his name stood for. Quite a few sharp edged, bitter and not always entirely pleasant long term members have recently gone and overall I think the tone of this place is better for it. Old bill was not one I put in that category. He was measured and quite wise. If Old Bill was a troll, he was a darn good troll, a proper infiltrator not just a regular troll.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
He supported men when they needed it most. I was (and am) highly resentful of those who vilified and continually insulted OldBill.
Gargamel was one of those guys who constantly insulted him. Oldbill’s argument was that all this “tuna hunting” is waste of time and makes us look bad. And, he was right. I agreed with him 100%. Fortunately, the website has recovered and all of those keyboard warriors are gone.
Oldbill, if you’re reading this, come back bro.
God bless peace and freedom.
I like oldbill . I like old gargamel too . Mmmmm do i have to pick one . Lol . ( humor)
I dont know i just try not to let s~~~ bother me .
Here is one back at ya gargamel .
I like both men for who they are and how they are as there individual selves
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
He supported men when they needed it most. I was (and am) highly resentful of those who vilified and continually insulted OldBill.
Gargamel was one of those guys who constantly insulted him. Oldbill’s argument was that all this “tuna hunting” is waste of time and makes us look bad. And, he was right. I agreed with him 100%. Fortunately, the website has recovered and all of those keyboard warriors are gone.
Oldbill, if you’re reading this, come back bro.This is what makes us look bad:
A top gun thread – Matrix posting something that is what this site is all about…
And OP “Joller984” going off on him for no reason. That thread then blows up to 8 pages, 5 of which consist of fighting.
/forums/topic/for-the-love-of-god-listen-to-me/
In this thread “here” it is clear to see that one troll wants the other troll to come back.
Sorry but I can’t keep my mouth shut. Read the thread in the link and you see what’s ruined the place.
Sadly this site is full of such disruptors and posting here is no fun anymore.
Matrix also left.
So no more “annoying” posts for Joller to get “annoyed” by.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Gargamel was one of those guys who constantly insulted him.
That’s a plain and simple lie.
He was the first to go at my throat with deep hitting insults…
I just gave him what he deserved. His own medicine back in small doses. And “strong Bill” couldn’t handle it. LOL.
Here it is:
Proof instead of lies:
And a simple “participation” in some topic gives no one the right to such insults and public shaming.
Not on the internet and not in real life.
OldBill is not the boss. And I have not sunk so deep that I have to take things like that.
/forums/topic/i-dont-want-to-drown-in-juices/
Read before you bitch…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Meh, all I saw there is a dude who got into the sauce and picked a fight. He apologized for it and the rest of the thread is about crypto currency which I have no clue about.
I’ve done the same myself. Not sure why you’d bring that back up? I sure as s~~~ wouldn’t want my drunk rants to be relived.
I’m glad you’re still here Gargamel, and you’re valued as far as I’m concerned. I get the pent up rage. I’m doing the same thing with my employer right now (not smart on my end) because I just can’t stand it anymore. I’m not even sure if I have a job anymore. I’ll be in on Tuesday, but I have a target on my back now, and figure it’s only a matter of time before I get axed. Why? Because I let a stupid f~~~ing c~~~ bait me.
The answer, is no.
Not sure why you’d bring that back up? I sure as s~~~ wouldn’t want my drunk rants to be relived.
But they are “reliving” lies about me. And so I just hold up the mirror.
I didn’t run off OldBill, I just defended myself and exposed what he did over the 2 years I was watching here.
And fact is that I am gone. Not posting any longer. Only here to set lies straight.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Not sure why you’d bring that back up? I sure as s~~~ wouldn’t want my drunk rants to be relived.
But they are “reliving” lies about me. And so I just hold up the mirror.
I didn’t run off OldBill, I just defended myself and exposed what he did over the 2 years I was watching here.
And fact is that I am gone. Not posting any longer. Only here to set lies straight.Damn, I thought you were going to stick around. That sucks man.
What lies are they posting about you? I see general anger and disillusionment at the site…I’m here a lot and don’t recall anyone smearing you specifically. I saw a post or two accusing you of spamming the site, etc. That’s about it. After the time you’ve put in here, and a 28k star count, I think you’ve earned the right to say your piece on the way out.
This s~~~ went south so fast. I think s~~~ got blown way out of proportion.
The answer, is no.
Damn, I thought you were going to stick around. That sucks man.
Well I felt the hostility since not allowing the gray eminence(s) of this forum to s~~~ on me. And that is no climate to work in.
And I don’t accept any pecking order from some low-life alcoholic with a narcissistic power trip.
It’s like a poisoned workplace with insulting, lying and gaslighting women around you. They openly insult you and when you retaliate, suddenly everything you return is “spam”… (Abuse, cry cry cry)
And the visible strategy of provoking you into snapping, so they can then point the finger at you…
And then run to HR (read: KM) and say that you must be punted (suspended)…
Same scheme of things.
This thread is simply great:
/forums/topic/delete-account-request/
I knew there was something wrong here when I first saw that “X-11 must be punted” (or so) thread (About a year ago).
That sucks: An open “ganging up” on a member I never had any issue with.
Endless back and forth fighting about private bulls~~~, not even MGTOW related and at the end, X-11 “chimped out” and was spectatorized to this day. Well the trick worked. They tried the same with me and now they have me as a pain in the ass. Which is exactly what I promised… They were warned… LOL.
And I promised to never interfere with “regular” posting again. So if the cry babies get triggered by what I write on these “farewell” threads they could also have ignored me.
I am only here to go in between when someone is openly badmouthing me. Else I have nothing more to say here.
Many posters here are not better than the women they complain about. This feels like posting MGTOW things on a feminist forum.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Anonymous1And OP “Joller984” going off on him for no reason. That thread then blows up to 8 pages, 5 of which consist of fighting.
Are you saying i’m a troll? Don’t answer that.
I apologised to matrix and it was accepted – he certainly didn’t leave the site because of me (if he has left)
It’s all very well doing your research, Gargamel and that’s commendable, but it’s certainly selective (of course it would be).
I’ve seen you post several times that you’re leaving the site and that it’s your final post, but it’s clear you read something here and get butthurt – you are constantly monitoring this place, despite what you say.
Having said all that – I shouldn’t have created this topic as it’s achieved nothing and it’s incorrect anyway (as I’ve been told).
Anonymous1And I don’t accept any pecking order from some low-life alcoholic with a narcissistic power trip
It’s funny that I never mentionded you in this topic, but you really are a slimey, narcissistic, self righteous butthurt c~~~ lol.
You’re a sad little German -incredibly boring and montotone.
Constantly worrying about who said what, and misinterpreting everything.
You remind me of a woman, You really do.
Perhaps thats because you were raised in a household full of women. Something has stuck, hasn’t it?
Anonymous12GARG SHUT UP
gottverdammt – we know you hate the guy, it is just that not everyone hates the guy.
shut up ONCE when Oldb~~~~ is mentioned.ONCE!
GO AWEH! Geh Weg!
Get over your hatred for that old Dickhead.
It turns you into an even Bigger Dickhead than he is!Is OldB~~~~ a tough one to love?
Sure!
but you are an easy one to hate, and it is getting easier every day! so for f~~~s sake! SHUT UP!You “threatened” to leave once already.
DO IT! JUST DO IT!You know how the thing with the Razors works – across for attention, paralel for results.
Yea. You be one of these “across” guys.Seriously getting on my nerves.
Anonymous12Or at least get over your hate for the man.
aka shaming language – “grow up” “get over it”
f~~~in ell… there is not enough room for both of you in a Thread.
So stay out of the 1% of threads where he is even mentionned.
The rest of mgtow.com is already taken over by you, so just… this little space… this tiny fraction of the internet… leave it to those that are not exactly like you.female invasive behavior
easily triggered by the mention of “the unspeakable” “he who can not be named”You got better s~~~ to do than to dump your opinion on someone who is not even here do rebuke it.
F~~~ you and F~~~ all of your Cats!
Anonymous1Gargamel is a specialist in character assassination – like any true narcissist and he does his research extremely well.
He’ll drudge up threads and quotes but he’ll hope you won’t have time for the full context. He just posted this above – a thread about me picking a fight a f~~~ing year ago when I was drunk:
And OP “Joller984” going off on him for no reason. That thread then blows up to 8 pages, 5 of which consist of fighting.
/forums/topic/for-the-love-of-god-listen-to-me/
In this thread “here” it is clear to see that one troll wants the other troll to come back.
Someone had the time to read it and saw there was nothing amiss and that I apologized for what happened:
Meh, all I saw there is a dude who got into the sauce and picked a fight. He apologized for it and the rest of the thread is about crypto currency which I have no clue about.
I’ve done the same myself. Not sure why you’d bring that back up? I sure as s~~~ wouldn’t want my drunk rants to be relived.
And here comes the victim card from Gargamel once he realised it isn’t working:
But they are “reliving” lies about me. And so I just hold up the mirror.
Narcissism with a helping of paranoid delusion.
Bait and switch tactics.
Anonymous1But they are “reliving” lies about me. And so I just hold up the mirror.
I cannot comprehend how strange this is. I’ve never uttered your name in a bad mannor or spread lies about you – as if anyone here would listen to me harping on and slagging you off.
I’ve only said complimentary things about you in the past, but now things have changed and you have exposed yourself.
You’re self absorbed, over sensitive and seem to have a persecution complex – I won’t even mention your obsession with cats (but I just have..oops).
Time to hold that mirror up to yourself, mate.
All zee best.
Don’t mention the war.
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