OK guys… Don't laugh, But I'll allow "I told you so…"

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

I went to the doctor today, and we had an interesting discussion…
My doctor is a female, but she really isn’t a bad sort, and after all this is a professional relationship. Hey, it’s the VA, so you take who they give you…

Anyway it came around to my emotional well being, and I took a chance and told her why I am feeling the way I am… Without going into too much detail, I basically found my self dating, purely for companionship. I had made clear to the “lady” that not only did I not have any expectations, I was not in the least interested. Dinner went well, and we enjoyed the movie. It ended up, she maneuvered me into a position where sex was pretty much inevitable. Your basic “date rape” scenario in reverse. Then when I didn’t didn’t live up to her expectations, even though I tried, she got snarky and threw me out. I have not had another date with anyone since, and have determined it’s just not worth it.

Once I had finished my story, my doctor surprised me… She says she is hearing this kind of story from more and more of her patients. So, guys… If my doctor says she is hearing more and more of this from guys, what does that say about “Rape Culture”?

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

SilverOne wrote:

Once I had finished my story, my doctor surprised me… She says she is hearing this kind of story from more and more of her patients. So, guys… If my doctor says she is hearing more and more of this from guys, what does that say about “Rape Culture”?

C~~~s are the real “rapers” and – as always – project it on men.

Women are the ones who lose their s~~~ when they don’t get their way.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Not judging you @silverone. The loneliness can make us do weird things. But man, wanting to go out with some woman you’re not even attracted to just for “companionship” is a bit bewildering to me. I would join a club or go out with a couple of guys if I was really lonely. Or just try to make a new guy friend to hang out with. I mean, f~~~. I’d post an ad in Craigslist under the platonic section looking for a guy buddy before I’d do that.

[AttonParticipant]

Funny how by the modern feminist definition of rape that actually is rape.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

The truth was always known. I have heard similar from others at the VA, when I go. I have a guy that I talk to nearly every time that I go. I won’t go into details, but he will not let a woman into his place for the night, due to their inability to accept certain terms due to his injuries from the service. He will wake up at night in pain as they are trying to ride him. They are inconsiderate bimbos.

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

F~~~in Women…..You can’t Win…..

If you were TRYING to bed her; SHE would consider you a pig or whatever. She would say “Why don’t you just want to spend time with me ? ”

You’re NOT trying to bed her, and now you’re NO DAMN GOOD because you just want to spend time with her.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 42]

SilverOne wrote:

So, guys… If my doctor says she is hearing more and more of this from guys, what does that say about “Rape Culture”?

[joetechParticipant]

Women are hypocrites. In one sentence they tell you that all men are interested in is sex. Then, in the next sentence they’ll tell you that women want it just as much as men. What I’ve seen growing up is that once women hit their 40’s their sex drive is like that of a seventeen year old boy. They get very upset when the object of their desire doesn’t reciprocate. Now, reverse the roles and what do you get? Hypocrisy.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

You know… I actually think the MGTOW Attitude taking root may be prompting more men to talk about it. After all, isn’t MGTOW all about refusing to take women’s s~~~ anymore?

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

[IRuleMeParticipant]

I picked up this guy with Uber yesterday, and we were having a conversation during the ride. I could tell this guy is totally MGTOW. Single, has money, doesn’t have kids, does what the f~~~ he wants (was going to an art gallery showing when I picked him up)..

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

F~~~in Women…..You can’t Win…..

If you were TRYING to bed her; SHE would consider you a pig or whatever. She would say “Why don’t you just want to spend time with me ? ”

You’re NOT trying to bed her, and now you’re NO DAMN GOOD because you just want to spend time with her.

Women don’t know what they want.

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

Atton wrote:

Funny how by the modern feminist definition of rape that actually is rape.

Yeah, I actually got that from my doctor. She actually told me my emotional state is pretty typical of a rape victim. She offered to get me into counseling at the VA for it, but having spent way too much time in mental health at the VA… I declined.

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

SilverOne wrote:

I basically found myself dating, purely for companionship. I had made clear to the “lady” that, not only did I not have any expectations, I was not in the least interested.

Seriously, what is the point, then? If you are not interesting in having sex with the woman, it is ultimately not worth dating her. The whole point of dating women is so that you eventually find a woman worth re-producing with, from a man’s point-of-view, which may also mean you may have to marry her. However, if you are not even interested in having sex with women, just stop wasting your energy/money/time on dating women. Get a dog instead, if companionship is all you want. You need to learn to be comfortable with being on your own and doing your own thing in life.

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

sjt1975 wrote:

SilverOne wrote:

I basically found myself dating, purely for companionship. I had made clear to the “lady” that, not only did I not have any expectations, I was not in the least interested.

Seriously, what is the point, then? If you are not interesting in having sex with the woman, it is ultimately not worth dating her. The whole point of dating women is so that you eventually find a woman worth re-producing with, from a man’s point-of-view, which may also mean you may have to marry her. However, if you are not even interested in having sex with women, just stop wasting your energy/money/time on dating women. Get a dog instead, if companionship is all you want. You need to learn to be comfortable with being on your own and doing your own thing in life.

I live alone, I have a dog. I occasionally like to see some semblance of a normal life, without the nasty sexual entanglements.
I have been around for 63 years, and really am pretty comfortable with myself and by myself.

To be totally honest, I have issues with men, too… the result childhood sexual abuse by an older neighborhood teen. It went on for 3 years. Before anyone says it, when you are 10 years old, and the guy is 5 years older and twice your size, THERE IS NO CHOICE! The word got out, and I was ostracized and/or brutally (as in once sent to hospital) bullied by every guy in my school. Yeah, even after 50 years, it leaves a mark.

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

You sound lonely as f~~~, man. I get it, I really do. Don’t look at women for companionship. They won’t be there for you when the chips are down. Get some guy friends. We still around to the end, through the good and the bad. We’ll punch you in the face and then have a beer with you.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

TheSpice wrote:

You sound lonely as f~~~, man. I get it, I really do. Don’t look at women for companionship.

Truth? I don’t look to anyone for companionship anymore, not even family… One of my brothers told me a couple of years ago, “Once a c~~~~~~~~~; always a c~~~~~~~~~.”

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Sexually frustrated c~~~s are now the rapers, who didnt see this coming?

I been seeing a trend, its not very easy for women to get laid anymore like in the past.

Mostly its the same c~~~s who are getting laid, a.k.a. sluts. The 20%.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[narwhalParticipant]

SilverOne wrote:

Without going into too much detail, I basically found my self dating, purely for companionship. I had made clear to the “lady” that not only did I not have any expectations, I was not in the least interested. Dinner went well, and we enjoyed the movie. It ended up, she maneuvered me into a position where sex was pretty much inevitable. Your basic “date rape” scenario in reverse. Then when I didn’t didn’t live up to her expectations, even though I tried, she got snarky and threw me out.

Maybe I’m missing something. How was the sex inevitable? Did she tie you down or threaten to harm you in some way? You were at her place, so why didn’t you just leave? Were you too drunk or something?

I don’t mean to sound harsh, but I don’t see how none of this was under your control. I get that rejection or her being upset with your performance is emotional, but it’s not rape. Her success as seducing you isn’t rape either.

In my mind, I don’t want to call this scenario rape, even though…especially because…a feminist would call it rape or date rape.

But maybe there is more to the story about how she caused the sex to happen.

Ok. Then do it.

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

narwhal wrote:

Maybe I’m missing something. How was the sex inevitable? Did she tie you down or threaten to harm you in some way? You were at her place, so why didn’t you just leave? Were you too drunk or something?

I don’t mean to sound harsh, but I don’t see how none of this was under your control. I get that rejection or her being upset with your performance is emotional, but it’s not rape. Her success as seducing you isn’t rape either.

In my mind, I don’t want to call this scenario rape, even though…especially because…a feminist would call it rape or date rape.

But maybe there is more to the story about how she caused the sex to happen.

Narwhal, I respect your opinion, but you actually prove the point. Men do not consider it “Rape”; it’s just “Seduction”. Truth is, I didn’t either until the doctor pointed it out to me. I just owned it and took responsibility for allowing myself to get put into a position that sucked. Do I still think it is rape? Not at all, I just allowed myself to get put in a position that sucked. I own it. That is the difference. Women won’t and don’t own it. They refuse to take responsibility in their lives, but demand to take responsibility for the man’s. At the same time, it doesn’t bother them to do to men what they raise hell and send men to jail for.

BTW, just because I own it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t feel like s~~~, but I have no one but myself to blame. Just as well, since because I don’t have a split tail, that’s how the law sees it, too.

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

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