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  • #853719
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    743 roadmaster
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    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/09/04/colin-kaepernick-earns-support-from-strange-bedfellows-over-nike-ad.html

    Backlash after Colin Kaepernick named face of Nike ad

    Some social media users took to Twitter to showcase their frustrations. Videos and photos showed fans completely destroying their Nike-branded apparel, with some going as far as letting the gear go up in flames.

    https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/nike-stock-price-colin-kaepernick-just-do-it-ads-2018-9-1027505866

    Nike slides after tapping Colin Kaepernick as the new face of its ‘Just Do It’ ads

    https://www.eonline.com/news/965223/colin-kaepernick-s-nike-ad-comes-under-fire-as-protesters-set-their-sneakers-aflame

    Colin Kaepernick’s Nike Ad Comes Under Fire as Protesters Set Their Sneakers Aflame

    ————How stupid do you have to be to name Kaepernick to anything. His fan base is small protestor group, Nike is trying to sell to everyone. When underarmor is taking your market share every day this might have been a critical mistake for the company.

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    #853731
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    Chir
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    Nike done f~~~ed up.

    Want to see a man who was in the NFL who sacrificed everything…
    Pat Tillman

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    #853735
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    Narwhal
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    It’s a big gamble for sure, but I’m not convinced it’s a bad one just yet. Although it’s entirely possible that SJWs at Nike pushed this decision, I’d be more inclined that marketing actually drove the decision.

    On the surface, it’s seems like a really poor choice to make a decision that will cause customers to destroy their products and boycott buying new products. However, not all of them were going to be nike customers going forward anyway. Many of these are sports teams and such that are already locked into contracts. Then you have to factor that you’re going to bring in a lot of customers who were never going to buy Nike, or even athletic wear at all, until it became an image for social activism. I would guess that a lot of these new customers where into the smaller brands, like Addidas and Puma, so they’d be stealing customers. And Nike is a world wide corporation, I can see this increasing sales outside of the US for anyone who hates Trump.

    And it can be just an experiment. It wouldn’t take a whole lot to undue the damage and say it was just a mistake. Only diehards are going to remember.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #853737
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    TaxGuy
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    ————How stupid do you have to be to name Kaepernick to anything. His fan base is small protestor group, Nike is trying to sell to everyone. When underarmor is taking your market share every day this might have been a critical mistake for the company.

    1. EVERYONE is talking about it. That makes it a pretty successful ad campaign right there.
    2. People overestimate the snowflake factor. How many products have you REALLY banned for life because of an ad campaign? Who remembers the toilet paper that was saying Happy Father’s Day to all the single moms? Anyone remember that one? It p~~~ed me off at the time, but I couldn’t tell you who it was now. Remember when everyone in Cleveland burned LeBron’s jerseys? They took him back with open arms didn’t they?
    3. Nike is ALWAYS on the side of the athlete. ALWAYS. S~~~, they even gave money to Tonya Harding back in the day to help her get a lawyer when she was still lying about her lack of involvement in the Nancy Kerrigan pipe to the knee.
    4. The NFL is down for the third year in a row over the whole kneeling issue. Nike is putting it’s name on the line regarding what the NFL SHOULD do to resolve this issue. And you know what? They ARE on the right side of it. All Kap was saying was that racism didn’t go away just because we elected a black President. I still haven’t figured out the mental gymnastics it took to turn this into a military issue, but I know it’s bulls~~~.

    Looks to me like Nike is tired of watching the NFL market shrink because of bunch of old white guys don’t want to listen to a bunch of young black guys. Amazingly enough, Nike sided with the young black men that USE their product.

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    #853738
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    Faust For Science
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    I agree with Tucker Carlson on this matter: His quote, “Again there is something really decadent about that when the most successful people in your society hate the society you’ve got a real problem. It’s a metaphor for our entire ruling class.”

    Tucker Carlson on Nike Honoring Kaepernick: “When the Most Successful People Hate the Society You’ve Got a Problem” (VIDEO)

    Those running these companies would rather have their companies bankrupt insulting the U.S. population then turn a profit from people they disagree with.

    For example, this thread’s topic. Having that anti-American as their spokesman has cost that company over 4 BILLION in under a week: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-04/nikes-kaepernick-ad-has-cost-company-over-3-billion-so-far

    This is not a dumpster fire for that company. That is a five alarm inferno.

    Even major companies and governments take note of losing that amount of money is such a short time.

    If that company does not reverse course soon that company will be out of business.

    #853751
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    ————How stupid do you have to be to name Kaepernick to anything. His fan base is small protestor group, Nike is trying to sell to everyone. When underarmor is taking your market share every day this might have been a critical mistake for the company.

    1. EVERYONE is talking about it. That makes it a pretty successful ad campaign right there.2. People overestimate the snowflake factor. How many products have you REALLY banned for life because of an ad campaign? Who remembers the toilet paper that was saying Happy Father’s Day to all the single moms? Anyone remember that one? It p~~~ed me off at the time, but I couldn’t tell you who it was now. Remember when everyone in Cleveland burned LeBron’s jerseys? They took him back with open arms didn’t they?3. Nike is ALWAYS on the side of the athlete. ALWAYS. S~~~, they even gave money to Tonya Harding back in the day to help her get a lawyer when she was still lying about her lack of involvement in the Nancy Kerrigan pipe to the knee.4. The NFL is down for the third year in a row over the whole kneeling issue. Nike is putting it’s name on the line regarding what the NFL SHOULD do to resolve this issue. And you know what? They ARE on the right side of it. All Kap was saying was that racism didn’t go away just because we elected a black President. I still haven’t figured out the mental gymnastics it took to turn this into a military issue, but I know it’s bulls~~~.
    Looks to me like Nike is tired of watching the NFL market shrink because of bunch of old white guys don’t want to listen to a bunch of young black guys. Amazingly enough, Nike sided with the young black men that USE their product.

    No s~~~ racism didn’t end with a black president. It got much worse, the blacks and minorities are far more openly racist towards whites than ever and think they aren’t.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #853755
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    Want to see a man who was in the NFL who sacrificed everything…

    to friendly fire.

    Kappernick isn’t fit to carry Pat’s jock strap.

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    #853756
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    BigD
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    I think it’s f~~~ing genius. Most of the people that buy Nike rob, cheat, steal, and kill for Nike sneakers. Cow toe to them and your profits will go up. Pure genius. People with brains buy real shoes or boots with Goodyear Welts that will literally last forever. When they do buy sneakers they either say New Balance or Footjoy on the side for a better fit and better performance which are only worn when active.

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    #853761
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    Romulus
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    They ARE on the right side of it. All Kap was saying was that racism didn’t go away just because we elected a black President. I still haven’t figured out the mental gymnastics it took to turn this into a military issue, but I know it’s bulls~~~.

    Right or wrong about a such an issue is in the eye of the beholder. I may not like my football interrupted with social protests. I may decide to watch something else. In that case what may be right for you……(or more likely you agree with the protest theme), or for Nike, may not be right for me. I will take my attention somewhere else.

    I personally feel it is not the right venue for such a protest. Regardless of how worthy a cause it may or may not be.

    I look at it much the same as the folks who are members of that fundamentalist church……and they would show up at funerals to protest the “sinner” that was being buried. Sometimes because the sinner was gay.

    Same with folks that block major freeways during rush hour traffic to protest some thing or another.

    Do they have a right to do so….yes/maybe. Is it the right venue….NO.

    I could…..off the top of my head……think of various other times during a football game to launch such a protest.

    How about all the players that wish to participate line up on the 50 yard line at half time and kneel in protest.

    How about when there is a four minute TV time out, all that wish go to the filed and protest.

    How about after the game during the mandatory press conference.

    Why didn’t they chose these times. Because there would less folks watching and there would be no national anthem being played.

    Protesting during the national anthem was chosen precisely for its emotional effect. And the fact it would be seen by a large captured audience. The whole point of such a gesture is to stir things up.

    Reap what you sow.

    Like I need Kaepernick or Nike for that matter, to provide me with moral teachings. One is just the garden variety attention whore. Nike, while successful, is a company built on slave labor, charging the rich first-world citizens 500 percent mark-ups on an unessential fashion item.

    Both would need to climb a long long way to even be within viewing distance of higher moral ground.

    You may disagree.

    How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

    #853763
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    ResidentEvil7
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    Doesn’t bother me. I wear Asics.

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    #853772
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    TaxGuy
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    Right or wrong about a such an issue is in the eye of the beholder. I may not like my football interrupted with social protests. I may decide to watch something else. In that case what may be right for you……(or more likely you agree with the protest theme), or for Nike, may not be right for me. I will take my attention somewhere else.

    I personally feel it is not the right venue for such a protest. Regardless of how worthy a cause it may or may not be.

    Personally I just don’t get offended when they are playing the National Anthem and the camera shows a guy on his knee as opposed to standing up. It’s not like they showed two guys gang-raping a tree sloth or anything. But I get it, the right venue probably isn’t during a paid advertisement for the US military.

    I look at it much the same as the folks who are members of that fundamentalist church……and they would show up at funerals to protest the “sinner” that was being buried. Sometimes because the sinner was gay.

    Do they have a right to do so….yes…..is it the right venue….nope.

    I don’t look at it even close to the same. One is at the funeral of dead loved one, literally THE WORST time for the grieving family. The other is during a song where almost everyone is getting a beer, taking a p~~~, or otherwise not watching.

    Why did they chose the national anthem? Because protesting during the national anthem was chosen precisely for its emotional effect and the fact it would be seen by a captured audience.

    Reap what you sow.

    I agree. I think Kap screwed up when this first started by allowing the right to make it about the flag and not the protest. He should have done it once, and then at the first sign of his message getting co-opted stopped taking a knee during the anthem. Come up with something else. Because then his message wouldn’t have gotten lost.

    Nike is a successful company built on slave labor and charging rich first-world citizens shoes with a 500 percent mark-up. Nike would have to climb a long ways to even reach the foothills of higher moral ground.

    You may disagree.

    I do disagree. Nike goes into s~~~ hole countries and gives them a base job to work up from. It’s not technically tough work, but it does help build up the workers. In the 70’s they were manufacturing in Korea and Thailand because they were s~~~ hole third world countries. With the help of companies looking for cheap labor, the workers there eventually became too valuable for Nike to use. Look where they are now.

    Also, the factories literally have wings in them: The Nike wing, the Adidas wing, the Reebok wing. They are all made at the exact same factory.

    And the mark-up isn’t 500%. If you buy a shoe from Foot Locker for $100, Nike sold them to them for $50 and paid $25 to have them made.

    But seriously, it’s all good. All I’m saying is that I don’t get it, because it isn’t the hill I would die on. And I think most people will feel outrage for a good solid 5 minutes and then they’ll wish they had their burnt shoes back.

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    #853779
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    Gravel Pit
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    Everyone trying to justify that Nike is somehow genius or that this won’t affect them… dude, lol. Nice creative thinking, but NO. Nike just stubbed it’s toe and is headed for a face-plant. Same thing with the NFL. They should have squashed that s~~~ the first time it happened. Now that it’s exploded, the NFL is in an irreversible down trend.

    The NFL will being going to hell soon. Ticket prices and views will continue to decline. Subsequently, players salaries will fall. Eventually, some teams will go bankrupt and cease operations. The league will shrink.

    They will all be looking back at 2016-2017 and saying, “that is where it all went south. That is where they crossed the line and lost support of Americans.” The league is not made up of players. It’s made by fans. NFL is in a death spiral. It will take several more seasons but its done, just sit back and watch the crash.

    Me personally, I will never buy so much as a NIKE headband, shorts, or shoe EVER AGAIN, period.

    #853780
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    Gravel Pit
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    Then again, I may be wrong. Many Americans chug beer and die of heart disease and watch the NFL like a cult. Its a drug addiction. For me though, I quit watching. And that was difficult to do because my best buddy has season tickets. It means the world to him. And Im like, I dont care bro, I dont want to go the game, I dont like the politics or the over paid assholes on the field. Im done.

    #853789
    TaxGuy
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    The NFL will being going to hell soon. Ticket prices and views will continue to decline. Subsequently, players salaries will fall. Eventually, some teams will go bankrupt and cease operations. The league will shrink.

    They will all be looking back at 2016-2017 and saying, “that is where it all went south. That is where they crossed the line and lost support of Americans.” The league is not made up of players. It’s made by fans. NFL is in a death spiral. It will take several more seasons but its done, just sit back and watch the crash.

    If you are correct, then you understand my point with Nike. The NFL was KILLING IT until this issue came along. And they could have listened to the players, talked it through, and come up with some other way to protest or have a voice. Instead the NFL wrapped themselves in the flag and went full retard against the players that people pay to see play. Nike looks at the NFL and knows it’s f~~~ing up how they are handling this. And if you’re right, then all of the shoes companies lose all of their football revenue.

    That’s a big hit that Nike and the rest would rather not take. So they let the owners know who they think is right.

    I guess the question is did they have to take the gamble? I don’t know, but you think the NFL is going away. Can you really blame Nike for trying to save it for their own benefit?

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    #853791
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    Romulus
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    Romulus wrote:Right or wrong about a such an issue is in the eye of the beholder. I may not like my football interrupted with social protests. I may decide to watch something else. In that case what may be right for you……(or more likely you agree with the protest theme), or for Nike, may not be right for me. I will take my attention somewhere else.I personally feel it is not the right venue for such a protest. Regardless of how worthy a cause it may or may not be.

    Personally I just don’t get offended when they are playing the National Anthem and the camera shows a guy on his knee as opposed to standing up. It’s not like they showed two guys gang-raping a tree sloth or anything. But I get it, the right venue probably isn’t during a paid advertisement for the US military.

    Romulus wrote:I look at it much the same as the folks who are members of that fundamentalist church……and they would show up at funerals to protest the “sinner” that was being buried. Sometimes because the sinner was gay.Do they have a right to do so….yes…..is it the right venue….nope.

    I don’t look at it even close to the same. One is at the funeral of dead loved one, literally THE WORST time for the grieving family. The other is during a song where almost everyone is getting a beer, taking a p~~~, or otherwise not watching.

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    I think we probably still disagree on some of this, and I don’t want to start up a tit-for-tat type of response thingy……..those get real boring real fast for others.

    But I wanted to say I enjoyed your thoughtful response.

    How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

    #853793
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    TaxGuy
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    I think we probably still disagree on some of this, and I don’t want to start up a tit-for-tat type of response thingy……..those get real boring real fast for others.

    But I wanted to say I enjoyed your thoughtful response.

    Agreed. I’m sure we do disagree on some of it, but so what. Not everyone agrees with everyone on everything. And really, I’m just trying to explain Nike’s position on a lot of it. I actually do know a few people who used to be pretty high up in that company a few years ago.

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    #853794
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    JB Books
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    Time will tell whether or not it was a good business decision. If Nike loses a ton of money over it, I sure won’t be crying, but then, there’s no point getting too worked up either way. Going my own way includes minding my own business more than I used to (unless it’s just plain amusing!).

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    #853798
    743 roadmaster
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    Brand loyalty accounts for a large chunk of the bottom line. Plus a major chunk of that bottom line comes from the US market. Only street punks want to show up in shoes from a company surrounded in this kind of controversy. Every Golfing Bob and Jane are quietly hiding their nike products or taking them down to the goodwill. People like golfing Bob and Jane is where the big money is at because they buy the sets of golf clubs, the new outfits to go golfing in and the accessories.

    When you have a choice to buy and the only difference is the name on the product a stunt like this one pushes more to buy that other product,………like I first pointed out Under Armor is taking market share every day.

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    #853803
    TaxGuy
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/29/under-armour-shares-tank-as-dicks-sporting-goods-blames-the-brand.html

    This Under Armour? The one that Dick’s blamed for missing it’s earnings just six days ago?

    Yeah…………….they’re killing it.

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    #853806
    743 roadmaster
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    Just wait until Dicks sees the next quarter’s numbers when Nike burns them until it really hurts,…and each and every quarter there after.

    Oh and thinks for bringing up retailers, they are the ones that will start to pull the merchandise from the shelves and sending it back, expect to see a lot more Nike factory stores open as it tries to move all that product.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

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