Newbie Restriction

[Anonymous 12]

Thoughts on
intro vs no_intro

an introduction, when well done, shows me one or more of the following:
i am dealing with a man, someone with a dickhead
one who has been slapped in the face,
who has made mistakes and acknowledges them
acknowledges to be in a bad space/time
has a sense of humor even against himself
=============
While an intro is not necessary in my opinion, it serves as a look in the mirror, as a “here i am, this is me” and tells me partially that the person i am facing is at least self-aware and has swallowed some amount of redpills.

=============
Not hanging around the forum as a visitor, for a couple of weeks just reading… learning, understanding… is bad.
coming along as a total stranger with a link and a request for attention, no matter what the reason is bad.
pretending to gather clicks in order to change the system is pretentious at best…
posting an intro that says nothing… is bad

One does not run into an unknown saloon and start yelling.
At least not if you are a man, and in your right mind.
That´s what a woman does.
go places, be pretentious and demand attention.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Handy Ray wrote:

I agree when it comes to meeting a man face to face. But since the internet is not face to face, there are certain rules that I believe, don’t apply. That’s just my opinion.

From my perspective, I’ve enjoyed the online thing but now I need to take it to the next level. Hence, I intend to meet as many MGTOW in person as I can in the comming weeks.

I’ve already got an idea of how the trips gonna pan out:

See the thing is, we save lives.

We’re gonna’ put the band back together,

We’re on a Mission.

A mission from God

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 54]

” kind sir”

Im tired of you.

[Anonymous 54]

Handy Ray wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

Personaly, I beleive being able to introduce one self is an important life skill.

If I had Sons I would lean on this heavily.

I was nervous when I did mine, but felt it was important.

I agree when it comes to meeting a man face to face. But since the internet is not face to face, there are certain rules that I believe, don’t apply. That’s just my opinion.

this is one of our passive aggressive lesbians.

She will agree, but disagree…

All f~~~ing day if you let her.

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

Keymaster wrote:

The practice of pre-existing MGTOW forums was usually MAN-datory intros. When I first joined one of them, I made an intro. TWICE. I don’t know why or what I could have possibly said that put them off, but I was delighted to come across their forums which was the only online discussion place that appeared to be a perfect fit.

Not only was I not permitted to join, but I was also uncerimoniously banned from reading and visiting. They banned me – twice. I was gutted. But I was also not the only one – I learned later.

You JUST. DON’T. DO. THAT. You don’t arbitrarily close the door in a MGHOW’s face. It would be like telling a soldier he can’t have a drink of water.

Then I got an idea. . . .
Why “join” when we can build our own?

This was one of the main inspiration for this place. And I decided there would be no mandatory intros. Of course EVERYONE told us it would never last a week with such an open concept. But guess what.

We don’t want “restrictions” at all.
Why do you think our guidelines have barely nothing on them?

Doesn’t every man have enough “restrictions” already? Hasn’t he already had enough of being told what to do? He’s standing in the doorway already cuffed at the wrists and ankles. Imposing another “restriction” is grossly unreasonable and unnecessary.

So we created an honor system – which worked!
But women abused it.

Still, there are no mandatory intros because honorable men are willing and delighted to make them on their own accord. They are THRILLED to make them and need no prompting to do so. The introductions forum is a tome and testimony of men who roll up their sleeves and are delighted to express their delight and gratitude.

THAT’s who this place is for.

—

Unless they choose to upgrade and approve themselves because they don’t want to , we make them participants when we can and when there is room. We are just not staffed around the clock and almost no need members have ever kicked up a fuss.

They are very patient and makes us very proud to have this kind of men-ber here. They are the kind of man we created the site for. The kind that’s gracious. The “good man” who doesn’t kick the door down and understands that he’s a guest – which is damn near all of them.

THEY HAVE PROVEN – for nearly 3 years – there is no need for restrictions and it has only been proven to be a success model that works.

—

You know you’re recent thread and how I talked about how “trust” works? We (the website ) don’t have a choice but to trust willingly and freely – until it is abused. The only other option is to NOT trust.

Trust is freely given – or not– until it is abused.
That is the website’s principal.

–>> but it does not need to be the others MEMBER’s principal.

They are not required nor under any obligation to give it away – or answer a survey that’s presented to them. So when you showed up with a “survey” and they prefer you build some kind of forums reputation first – or ask for an intro – you can expect a fair amount of apprehension from them.

It’s REASONABLE.

It’s UN-REASONABLE to expect them to jump all over it with enthusiasm until you have established yourself to a degree that they would be comfortable ( or even interested in ) answering it.

MGTOW are very aware:
It’s not the answers that drive us . . . .it’s the QUESTION.

So it’s not enough to just “answer”.
They want to know and understand where the QUESTION comes from.

A red-pill mindset doesn’t see an innocent question anymore. It hears something else which usually – almost always – has an alternative meaning and motive. That’s why I analyzed “trust” to such a degree.

A woman asks “so how do you feel about marriage”? A smart/red-pill man doesn’t just answer that because she asked. He knows what she’s really asking. That question can be deconstructed to the moon and back again in lengthy paragraphs.

It’s the MOTIVATION for the question that matters more than any answer he gives.

More good advice, thanks for that.

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

Anonymous wrote:

Thoughts on
intro vs no_intro

an introduction, when well done, shows me one or more of the following:
i am dealing with a man, someone with a dickhead
one who has been slapped in the face,
who has made mistakes and acknowledges them
acknowledges to be in a bad space/time
has a sense of humor even against himself
=============
While an intro is not necessary in my opinion, it serves as a look in the mirror, as a “here i am, this is me” and tells me partially that the person i am facing is at least self-aware and has swallowed some amount of redpills.

=============
Not hanging around the forum as a visitor, for a couple of weeks just reading… learning, understanding… is bad.
coming along as a total stranger with a link and a request for attention, no matter what the reason is bad.
pretending to gather clicks in order to change the system is pretentious at best…
posting an intro that says nothing… is bad

One does not run into an unknown saloon and start yelling.
At least not if you are a man, and in your right mind.
That´s what a woman does.
go places, be pretentious and demand attention.

I agree… and now I understand the unspoken rules of this website. It’s kinda like the military where there are certain rules but they are not actual written regulations because they are more like traditions. I get it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Handy Ray wrote:

I agree… and now I understand the unspoken rules of this website. It’s kinda like the military where there are certain rules but they are not actual written regulations because they are more like traditions. I get it.

Excellent.

Also understand the MGHOW has a very low tolerance for bulls~~~. Whether it’s bulls~~~ or not, he has filtered out EVERYTHING that he has been presented with and realized dam near all of it is bulls~~~ when you pull the curtain back.

So don’t be put off if you encounter a short fuse. You can bet his patience has been tested to the snapping point. The “test” shouldn’t even have been brought to him.

As I said previously, it’s not personal.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Handy Ray wrote:

I bet some of you guys are just big and mighty behind your keyboard there…but get you in a room with another man who wants to kick your ass…you’d fold over like you want to go back into your momma’s womb.

Thats’ an interesting statement.

Can you afford to lose that bet?

Handy Ray wrote:

I have no shame in kicking another man’s ass…and I have no shame in getting my ass kicked. Because if I got my ass kicked, it’s my own damn fault for not knowing how to fight.

Yes — but do you know when NOT to?

That’s a more useful skill than fighting at all.
And almost always the winning strategy.

So being willing and able to “kick some ass” is an indicator of nothing.

Personally. I never “open a can” of whoopass.
I make it from scratch.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

I work in a buissnes were introduceing yourself is important.
Try walking up to a liveing legend and boldly introduceing yourself.

[Anonymous 54]

Keymaster wrote:

Personally. I never “open a can” of whoopass.
I make it from scratch.

Key Master!!!!
Im gonna borrow that one!

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

Keymaster wrote:

Handy Ray wrote:

I bet some of you guys are just big and mighty behind your keyboard there…but get you in a room with another man who wants to kick your ass…you’d fold over like you want to go back into your momma’s womb.

Thats’ an interesting statement.

Can you afford to lose that bet?

Handy Ray wrote:

I have no shame in kicking another man’s ass…and I have no shame in getting my ass kicked. Because if I got my ass kicked, it’s my own damn fault for not knowing how to fight.

Yes — but do you know when NOT to?

That’s a more useful skill than fighting at all.
And almost always the winning strategy.

So being willing and able to “kick some ass” is an indicator of nothing.

Personally. I never “open a can” of whoopass.
I make it from scratch.

I absolutely can afford to lose that bet. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone here, but I will.

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

The only legends are men, and I’m a man too. I’m Hu-Man as much as any other man. Why should I be afraid? Am I dealing with super human MGTOWs here? I think not.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Handy Ray wrote:

I absolutely can afford to lose that bet.

OK but you can also make sure you don’t lose at the blackjack table by not playing at all. You’re a “winner” without even playing.

Thats’ MGTOW, baby.

But you did say this . . . . .

I bet some of you guys are just big and mighty behind your keyboard there…but get you in a room with another man who wants to kick your ass…you’d fold over like you want to go back into your momma’s womb.

. . . immediately followed by . . . .

“I don’t have to prove anything to anyone here”.

Unless you deliberately set out to create a conflict, you don’t “bet” as if anyone has to “prove themselves” when you’re not even willing to do it yourself.

Handy Ray wrote:

but I will

Try a little MGTOW “game”.

Feel no need to prove yourself at all.

For the win.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

Keymaster wrote:

Personally. I never “open a can” of whoopass.
I make it from scratch.

Key Master!!!!
Im gonna borrow that one!

Yep me too

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

Keymaster, TOUCHE!

[Shadow1275Participant 1178]

Handy Ray wrote:

Here’s an idea.
Since many of us get hot and bothered by Newbies not introducing themselves, maybe, just maybe , it would be a good idea to contact the admins and respectfully request to place a restriction on Noobies to introduce themselves before they post anywhere else in the forum.
I mean actually restricting non-paying Newbies to only post in the introduction section and after they do that it would open up the rest of the forum for them. It’s a more proactive approach versus reactive (where all we do is bash on newbies who do not introduce themselves).

Men don’t get “Hot and Bothered”, they get ANGRY

I think I smell Tuna

He who is Brave is Free - Seneca

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Handy Ray wrote:

Keymaster, TOUCHE!

A man is still mightier than his sword.

Handy Ray wrote:

Am I dealing with super human MGTOWs here?

The only thing missing on me is a cape.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

Shadow1275 wrote:

Handy Ray wrote:

Here’s an idea.
Since many of us get hot and bothered by Newbies not introducing themselves, maybe, just maybe , it would be a good idea to contact the admins and respectfully request to place a restriction on Noobies to introduce themselves before they post anywhere else in the forum.
I mean actually restricting non-paying Newbies to only post in the introduction section and after they do that it would open up the rest of the forum for them. It’s a more proactive approach versus reactive (where all we do is bash on newbies who do not introduce themselves).

Men don’t get “Hot and Bothered”, they get ANGRY

I think I smell some Tuna

Well, considering that I’m not the one getting “hot and bothered” …I guess you must not be referring to me.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Greg Honda wrote:

Personally, before I joined I spent a long time reading the forum.

This is what I did as well. I spent over a year reading this forum and only joined up to participate in the last few days. I feel like I got to know all of the guys here before they even knew I existed.

I was reading the forums before the ex left, and she was perplexed seeing me laughing my ass off while on my tablet.

“what are you laughing about?”

“just a funny comment on a news site”

It was an @keymaster comment that had me in tears laughing. It was funny, because it was TRUE. You guys made me realize that I am not alone in feeling there is something really wrong with the way things are in the world.

What I would never presume to do, is to start my posts by s~~~ting on established members. I CHOSE to start with an introduction…in the same way that I choose to wipe my feel on the front mat when I enter someone else’s home. A sense of entitlement is about the worst thing you can enter a forum like this with. That is a woman trait, and as the sign says, this site is for MEN only.

The answer, is no.

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

Keymaster wrote:

Handy Ray wrote:

Keymaster, TOUCHE!

A man is still mightier than his sword.

With your permission I’d like to use that one!

[Author]

Posts