Never.have.kids.

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

In a few weeks, I will be an uncle. I have no desire to have kids myself. Never.

Besides the obvious problems with the way the world is now, I put myself FIRST.

I don’t need a little twerp growing up resenting me, even if we exclude the b1tch mother’s brainwashing for one minute.

My brother has ruined his life. The c*nt of a GF has already threatened to take the kid even before its born. She is borderline, is on a list of drugs for known problems. She has never had a full-time job either. She went off birth control, after her sister got pregnant. She decided not to tell my brother.

Given enough time… AWALT. I don’t need, or require, a nagging c*nt, or it’s offspring.

[Sky-OParticipant 18949]

My childhood was so totally f~~~ed up and a complete nightmare, that as an adult, I gave myself permission to live out the childhood that I never had.

Only, as an adult that has money and can do whatever I want, whenever I want. With no obligations or responsibility.

And so by default, it only made sense to never have any kids since it would have messed up my plans to redefine the meaning of a self absorbed, no responsibility, rock star existence.

No regrets over here. Its all going to be over someday and when that time comes for me, I’ll consider myself to have lived a full life.

[PrincekieParticipant 1042]

I’ve got kids. Six. All to the same mum. And thankfully they all look like me.

My kids are great. The mother on the other hand is destined to dance with the lord of the fiery flames, and I’m not on about the local welder…
This woman has made my life f~~~ing hell for way too many years.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Mr.Blue wrote:

This is a hard one for me. At my current age I still have no desire for kids but I might want 1(only one) at some point. Surrogacy?

Start with getting a goldfish. If you can keep it alive for three months, then get a parrot. Work your way up to getting a dog and then see if that doesn’t satisfy your “desire”…

[joetechParticipant]

Fatherhood isn’t what it used to be. It hasn’t been for quite some time. No kids, no regrets, no useless adults that were screwed up by a bad mother trying to move in with you when you’re retired. Thanks society. You’ve done a grand job of f~~~ing up families for everyone.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

There are some decent fathers. I was just joking but what I meant was that you can’t be labeled as a bad father if you never have kids to begin with.

In the eyes of society = women NONE OF US would ever be considered a good father.

To them we are ALL BAD and none of us IS EVER GOOD ENOUGH.

No matter how good of a father you are, women will always s~~~ talk you, drag you through the mud, ruin your life, ruin your business, take you to the cleaners so everyone around you will see “Oh, look he was a bad father”…

I know EXACTLY where you are coming from.

You avoid being a father “not good enough = BAD” by not becoming one in the first place.

This is point 2 of what kept me off the plantation.

Listening to women’s expectations lists at work and on live commercial TV told me:

“You will never make this benchmark”…

“Just go your own way and leave the c~~~s alone in their illusions and absurdity.”

I would have liked to have kids but not on these terms.

C~~~s who saw my place instantly saw that I am not bragging. My CD collection would have paid for raising 2 kids into adulthood.

But: I never found a woman being capable of being a mother.
They were all career women, party sluts with no inner values, lazy, badmouthed, culture-less, wallet rapists, gold diggers, opinionated borderline freaks…

There are no more potential MOTHERS around.

Feminists hate children. And who wants to give a defenseless being to one of these selfish and violent superc~~~s?

I know, I had too many man-hating c~~~s around me. Reason Number one to stay away from them.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[TwistParticipant]

Gargamel wrote:

Feminists hate children. And who wants to give a defenseless being to one of these selfish and violent superc~~~s?

I sacrificed two children to Moloch.

I smiled along like an idiot for years as xW and her sister would refer to each other as “devil’s spawn”.

I now know that evil is nothing to laugh about.

If they are not feeding Moloch with the unborn, they will with the living “they are fine, thriving” children.

“Selfish” does not begin to define the depravity.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Sky-O wrote:

My childhood was so totally f~~~ed up and a complete nightmare, that as an adult, I gave myself permission to live out the childhood that I never had.

Sorry to hear about your f~~~ed up past – hope you’re getting better. But thank you for crystallizing something i’ve been thinking about for 3 years.

My life got a million times better when i prioritized myself above everyone else. Being a father would mean i put those kids before me; i don’t ever want to have to make that decision.

[Sky-OParticipant 18949]

MattNYC,

Putting potential children that could be had before yourself if it happened is not even something men are able to do now. Although it is the foundation of what makes a man a father.

The systematic increase of state power, family courts and women gradually took a man’s ability to do that away from him. At least over the course of the last five decades in the US.

Add to that, increased taxes, regulations, laws, etc – Men have been reduced to court ordered bill payers and slaves.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Sky-O wrote:

My childhood was so totally f~~~ed up and a complete nightmare, that as an adult, I gave myself permission to live out the childhood that I never had.

Only, as an adult that has money and can do whatever I want, whenever I want. With no obligations or responsibility.

And so by default, it only made sense to never have any kids since it would have messed up my plans to redefine the meaning of a self absorbed, no responsibility, rock star existence.

No regrets over here. Its all going to be over someday and when that time comes for me, I’ll consider myself to have lived a full life.

That’s what I always was: Some kind of rock star. But I was also looking for the family I never had.

Only to find that others are WORSE than mine and that other women are just as bad of a c~~~ as my sister was.

Well, Sky-O, in my “borderline” thread you said that you just read what all of your previous girlfriends were like…

That’s what it is. I would have wanted family and kids.

Exactly: To compensate for my f~~~ed up childhood family…

But not with these borderline c~~~s!

So I chose the solitary life “on the job”, enjoying the money I make, buying all kinds of s~~~ to keep me busy and educating me further and further.

One more thing: When I was little the c~~~s in that children’s home (1976-1878, for not fitting in) would always take away my cassette recorder to mentally torture and punish me for the slightest offense. And it seemed as if it gave them pleasure… no – it DID give them sadistic satisfaction when they “got me”…

They did not know what they have actually done: They took a later well earning respectable “good man” (LOL) away from one of their sisters…

These c~~~s made me allergic to sadistic female ways of punishment and overreactions and raised my “entry level” for a woman to be “normal enough for me” so high that all crazy feminist c~~~s were passed on since then.

I now know what type of woman I DON’T WANT.

And that happens to be almost all of them.

And I bought so much HiFi s~~~ that no woman would ever carry it away. If I kept it all turned on 24/7 I would get a 5 figure electric bill.

One often used answer: Compared to a woman, amplifiers and computers give you warmth. And you can see women cringe. “Because truth”…

Most women don’t know s~~~ about mental warmth and caring about her partner.

Point 3 that kept me off the plantation: Women are cold.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Sky-O wrote:

The systematic increase of state power, family courts and women gradually took a man’s ability to do that away from him. At least over the course of the last five decades in the US.

Reason No. 4…

Sky-O wrote:

Add to that, increased taxes, regulations, laws, etc – Men have been reduced to court ordered bill payers and slaves.

Reason No. 5 to stay unc~~~ed and free.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[IRuleMeParticipant]

It can be nice to have kids, but as some MGTOW’s here know, in the case of separations they can and will likely be used as ammunition against you.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Why would any sane man want offspring without authority?
Your kid will be ruined being raised by the mother and the state. She gets paid to ruin him while the state gets paid for jailing him.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Society is a failure.
If you bring up a kids in a failed society, you are exposing a person who have done nothing wrong to all this.

That’s mean selfish and wicked.

YES all parents are a failure, couse the are suposed to be the fundamental stepping stone of society.

“Government ” some migth say, but government is constructed by us.

My father is a huge failure, my mother is a failure, all parents of the 25000 men in here are a failure, all parents of feminist are failure.

Becouse if they had succeed, no one of us wold be a MGTOW.

Human race failed epically, there is a chance to salvage this? I don’t know.

But I don’t care, I’m a failure AND I LIKE IT THAT WAY.
F~~~ it.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[JVBParticipant]

Can you believe there are actually married couples out that when asked if they want kids their response is

“Not sure. We have never discussed it”

Peace is > piece.

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

Diogenes wrote:

I have four sons. They are great. I wouldn’t change a thing about having them. They never were the problem. Their mother was.

+100

[narwhalParticipant]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

There are some decent fathers. I was just joking but what I meant was that you can’t be labeled as a bad father if you never have kids to begin with.

That just doesn’t make any sense. By that logic, you shouldn’t be MGTOW because someone might tell you you’re bad at.

And there are some damn good fathers out there.

If you don’t want kids, don’t have them. If you do, consider the costs, who’s mothering them, and everything in between, carefully. If you can’t be the father you want to be, then don’t.

Ok. Then do it.

[MagpulParticipant 59]

Too many variables in having a kid, especially these days. Count me out.

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