Need some advice

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Got two kids, boy and girl. Girl is 11

How do I raise her so that she doesn’t become like the women we talk about here? Some facts:

She is a good, smart kid
She respects me
She loves her mother (AWALT)
She spends half the time with me

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[MGHOWGhostParticipant 90]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

How do I raise her so that she doesn’t become like the women we talk about here?

I honestly don’t think that’s possible. Hypergamey will still exist even with her, especially once she becomes a teenager. She’ll still expect white knights and manginas to do things for her, which makes her an AWALT by definition.

Posts like these makes me glad I don’t have kids. Especially daughters. That would be a nightmare.

[AttonParticipant]

How do I raise her so that she doesn’t become like the women we talk about here?

You can’t that simple.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[HitmanParticipant]

Begin with letting her know that you love her unconditionally.
Explain the birds and the bees . So she understands .
Explain the difference between the two genders and that she has strengths in some areas and males have strength in others.
Explain karma and kindness.
Empathy and her need to get education, some of which may be social programming. .
She can come to you to help her with anything.
.
It can be done.
Spirituality and good parenting will work wonders !

[Anonymous 18]

Why would you want to?

The society has and is ever increasingly becoming more female-oriented. One sided efforts and little to no resistance.

Focus on your son instead.

She may or may not end up as a post-wall divorced single mother.

Your son will have it much worse by the time he is enrolling in college. More so now that he is spending half his time in your absence.

[HitmanParticipant]

When you have children you love them the same.
They both need guidance.
Lucky kids to have a MGTOW Dad !

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Your only hope is for her to be highly educated and respect the concept of the family, tradition, values, etc otherwise the state and media will poison her mind.

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[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Got two kids, boy and girl. Girl is 11

How do I raise her so that she doesn’t become like the women we talk about here? Some facts:

She is a good, smart kid
She respects me
She loves her mother (AWALT)
She spends half the time with me

Keep her away from MTV and “reality television”. Keep her away from the internet until she is older. Make sure she doesn’t discover Tumblr.

She spends half the time with you? Good. Just remember that she is impressionable. Keep her eyes away from bitches and hos until she is an adult.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Thanks for the replies, I’ll unload my (11 year thinking about it) game plan tomorrow see what you guys think. Will leave you with this, there is no love as pure as the one a father has for his children. I don’t give up on my kids…ever.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Love and affirm her so she doesn’t go looking for affection from Chads, and raise her to be GENUINELY strong and independent so she can provide for herself and not want a man to steal from.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Another Thing: When she becomes a teenager, show her some stuff by Karen Straughan or Christina Hoff Sommers.

You only get one shot at a first impression. Make sure her first impression of the Men’s Rights Movement is a positive one.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

I raised 2 girls and a boy by myself. My first wife bailed on all of us.
My kids are age 26-32 now. Not a one is a feminist and my oldest girl bagged an elk last year.

Hitman has good advice.

Reinforce these things. Respect for others (make them say thank you and please no exceptions) and have talks about it. Kids will act smart if you treat them like they are smart. Next have talks about personal character, accountability and actively pass your values to them. Don’t let them have friends that bring them down and help them choose friends that will be good for them. I disagree that you can’t do it or to just focus on one. If you did that, you become part of the problem. A MTGOW is accountable and if your raising children then you have to step up to the plate and do your best to raise them so they are not part of the problem. Ultimately, they will be themselves, but you can have a huge effect on their values. My girls are grown and they have been there for me when I had open heart surgery and never gave up on me. They weren’t fighting over who gets what and one even paid for legal help to stop my ex from raping me when I was down. They got me back on my feet because I was Dad and not some utility to them. It won’t be easy but you CAN do it.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Hitman wrote:

When you have children you love them the same.
They both need guidance.
Lucky kids to have a MGTOW Dad !

Kudos Hitman-

You have to love your kids. And I agree with Hitman that the kids are lucky to have a MGTOW father.

You have a great opportunity to present truth to your kids. Start early and be honest. Your kids will cherish the time you spend together and they will respect you. Good luck

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I have two nieces and I also thought about this before. I wouldn’t call it “advice” (and throw it away if you disagree), but I have a LIST of s~~~ I would teach my daughter BEFORE she even went out on a first date. She wouldn’t even be permitted to go out on a date until I know she understands it all.

• I would teach her PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. There will be no “blaming” of any kind. That word does not exist. She will accept personal responsibility for anything and everything that is within her power to make happen — or avoid.

i.e. If she allows herself to get pregnant, it’s not because “he knocked her up”.
SHE ALLOWED HERSELF TO GET PREGNANT. Full stop. The situation was 100% avoidable by HER. Therefore it is 100% her responsibility. She will not even be allowed to date until she understands that.

There are so many more…..

• If he doesn’t like you or call again, it means he doesn’t like you and didn’t call again. It doesn’t mean anything else. It doesn’t mean he’s an asshole. It doesn’t mean he’s a jerk. It doesn’t mean he “treated you badly”. He JUST DOESN”T LIKE YOU and isn’t that into you. Accept it.

• If it’s not acceptable for him to do it, it’s not acceptable for you to do it. Throw all double standards in the garbage.

• Insist that you are treated according to your own behavior and prefer it that way. If you behave like a bitch, expect to be treated like a bitch. If you’re nice to people, expect to be treated well. Don’t act like a bitch and expect to be treated well. Thats’ bulls~~~ too.

• Have sex with whoever want – whenever you want – however you want. Just don’t expect anyone else to pay for YOUR mistakes and s~~~ty choices. You are responsible for ALL of your decisions. ALL OF THEM. And NO. Regret is NOT the same as “rape” no matter what your girlfriends say. Ignore them all.

• Do NOT read beauty magazines. They will only make you feel ugly.

• Unless you – and he – plan to have a baby together, have sex for pleasure and fun only – and NO OTHER REASON. Be safe, have fun. Don’t have sex because he bought you something. Don’t have sex because you think that will keep him around. Don’t have sex for some other unrelated price or condition, because that makes you a WHORE. You will have sex because YOU WANT TO and NO OTHER REASON. No daughter of mine would say “he used me for sex”. That’s complete bulls~~~.

• No, boys are not “creeps” for smiling at (or talking to) you.

• Showing up and ordering off a menu doesn’t make you interesting.

• Just because it’s still legal for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent, doesn’t make it right. Don’t even THINK about it. You have 12 forms of birth control. There is no such thing as “OOPS”. If you allow yourself to get pregnant when you don’t want to be, it is 100% YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. You will pay for that mistake yourself.

And one more thing. This part is on you…..

“Keep her off the pole. If your daughter becomes a stripper, you f~~~ed up”.
– Chris Rock

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

Yeah personal responsibility is the big thing. I tried to teach my niece that but didn’t work out. Partly because her mom is a single mom I guess.

On a side note, juveniles often use was “That is so unfair!”, followed by entitlement rant. I have trouble explaining the fairness in the gynocentric society

[HitmanParticipant]

key master , and my friend no,
thanks guys !
genius .
will be sure to share .
hope more men here will put in their wisdom.
post saved.

[narwhalParticipant]

I have a 10 year old daughter and 12 year old son, so I have a similar situation. My main focus is to get them to think and consider what they are told by the media and everything else. I cannot be there to correct everything, so they must learn to evaluate on their on.

I am more concerned about my daughter then my son. My son has risks for sure, but he can go MGTOW and be happy. How does my daughter be happy? She can be independent and act like a man, but as we know, women are not so happy with that. She can be a leach of a man, but that doesn’t make them happy either. It’s really difficult to find that happy medium when society does nothing to support and enforce the right values.

Anyway, as far as details with my daughter specifically, I try and talk about pop culture with her when it comes up. We’ve talked about some Megan Trainor songs and the ghostbusters remake…how that relates to equality. She gets it on some levels. One thing I need to be careful of is making sure I listen to her views as well. If I don’t try and understand her, then she won’t try and understand what I’m saying either. That can be hard to do.

I’ve told her that she needs to plan on paying for whatever she wants in life, pick the right career for that. She cannot plan on being a teacher and having a nice big house for example. She gets that, for now.

I have to watch that I don’t baby her either. When she’s over for the weekend, I am tempted to help her with her bag. My son has no issues with it, but my daughter will struggle. I have to just let her deal with it even though I want to just carry it for her.

I also need to balance what I say with what she hear’s from her mother. I cannot be so radically different from mom, that she is forced to pick one or the other. Again, other reason why she must learn to think and decide for herself.

It’s really hard. I cannot raise her to be a boy. I can’t raise her to be today’s girl either. She’s gotta be something different to be truly happy. Someone who understand not to take people for granted, even though everyone tells her she can, but yet is able to depend on someone in a healthy way.

Ok. Then do it.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ok, double posting but it’s a slightly different topic. In regards to sex, 10-11 is probably a little young for that, but it’s coming very soon anyway.

Anyway, @KM, I get your stance regardless having sex and taking full responsibility, but I am very likely going to push for no sex at all. I agree that sex is not a tool to get what you want from a man, but there is also the master key/s~~~ty lock aspect. Perhaps it’s unrealistic, but is it a good idea to recommend virginity till…a later date to a girl? Is she more likely to be happy if she holds out, even though she will be rejected because of it? We keep talking down about women ‘riding the c~~~ carousel’, but here we are suggesting a woman have sex for fun as long as she takes full responsibility for her actions. I don’t have all the answers.

Ok. Then do it.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Amazing insights, and amazingly thoughtful responses. Funny, I was going to “unload” my gameplan that has been formulating for years, but in less than 8 hours, most of it has been captured here. Narwhal, you have summed up my reactions precisely! Having said that, getting thoughts and having multiple “bulls~~~” detectors is invaluable. There is an old Irish prayer that goes something like, ” I don’t prey to keep my children from injustice, but rather that they have the strength and wisdom to overcome”. I’ve tried to search it, but no joy. Thank you so much for your time…I’ll be upgrading my membership, hell even a shrink is 60 bucks an hour.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25019]

My 19 year old son is my only child.

I have tried to teach him to go his own way but he has seen me treat women with the same kindness and respect I treat all people with.

And, of course, he wants to do the opposite of every thing I tell him.

So, he white nights, they use him as an emotional tampon. At least I think he’s getting laid in college…there is that.

Maybe it will take a failed relationship or marriage to come around to his dad’s experienced point of view and go his own way.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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