Need advice

[Russky2Participant 3086]

TaxGuy wrote:

A couple things that haven’t been mentioned. Plumbing is hard on your back, you are on your hands and knees much of the time. Plus, how big are you? I’m 6’5″ and I had tough times with plumbing sometimes. It’s hard to fit all of that into a small spot, plus my hands are bigger than average. There’s a lot of tight spaces in plumbing. Other than that, my “second dad” said it best. “All you have to remember is that s~~~ flow downstream and payday is Friday”.
The advantage with HVAC is that it is predominately dealing with businesses. Unless you end up working on home air conditioning systems. This eliminates much of the female BS you’ve been dealing with. Most large buildings have a maintenance MAN to deal with.

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

What is HVAC and why are you guys recommending it?

It’s air conditioning systems. Mostly large commercial buildings, but I’m guessing it can also be home A/C units.
Welding is an interesting option. No one is talking to you when you are welding.
The only problem I see with truck driving is automated trucks. I have my doubts about them completely replacing truck drivers, but it will probably make a dent in the amount of drivers needed. One business model I’ve seen would have a station between major cities and the automated truck would drive from station to station. From there the driver would pick up the truck and get it through the city traffic to where it needs to go.

I’m 5’6, and not as strong as I used to be back in my early 20s. I’m feeling the effects of aging already, and my back and knees have always been the weakest link…:(
I also got hemorrhoids doing heavy squats lol

MGTOW AKBAR

[VirgilParticipant 970]

HVAC sounds like the better choice. But who says you have to stick with one. Isnt continual self improvement something to strive for?

Could always learn one then the other. Would never need a repair tech again as you could do both. And would give a wide range of job options.

Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.

[HermitParticipant]

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

What is HVAC and why are you guys recommending it?

Heating – Ventilation – Air – Conditioning

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

What is HVAC and why are you guys recommending it?

Air Conditioning and Heating Systems.

Though, there are a few risks. And beware working on old ventilation systems, they sometimes hold diseases such as legionnaires disease.

[Branched offParticipant 10933]

Make sure you are Ok with insulation dust. All that glass dust from fiber glass really bugs me and would rule me out of that job but some guys are ok with it.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Knarley BobParticipant 2219]

Vajra Varaha wrote:

Underwater welding….

Welding is bad enough the way it is, now we gonna go swimming? Oh, bother….

OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Russky2 wrote:

I’m 5’6, and not as strong as I used to be back in my early 20s. I’m feeling the effects of aging already, and my back and knees have always been the weakest link…:(I also got hemorrhoids doing heavy squats lol

If your body is already “compromised” take it from someone that was in commercial construction DON’T GO INTO THE TRADES!!!

I am not trying to burst your bubble, but the daily grind and bull work tears up Men from young ages and takes its toll over time.

Maybe you’ll make it til your about 50, and then you’ll go out on an injury(s), and then what are ya going to do?

But hey, Do What Ya Want !!

I too had to learn the hard way….

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Funeral home is good steady business. No one else wants to deal with it which is an advantage.

HVAC.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Awakened wrote:

Russky2 wrote:

I’m 5’6, and not as strong as I used to be back in my early 20s. I’m feeling the effects of aging already, and my back and knees have always been the weakest link…:(I also got hemorrhoids doing heavy squats lol

If your body is already “compromised” take it from someone that was in commercial construction DON’T GO INTO THE TRADES!!!
I am not trying to burst your bubble, but the daily grind and bull work tears up Men from young ages and takes its toll over time.
Maybe you’ll make it til your about 50, and then you’ll go out on an injury(s), and then what are ya going to do?
But hey, Do What Ya Want !!
I too had to learn the hard way….

Yeah man I’m thinking about that side effect really hard. I don’t know wtf to do really… everything sucks, and we are just a bunch of ants working for some f~~~ing queen that never put out a hard day’s grind in her life. ffs..

MGTOW AKBAR

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

What is HVAC and why are you guys recommending it?

Heating Vacuum and Air Conditioning systems.

I agree with the CDL idea. Weren’t you going to do that? Consider that again.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Sandals wrote:

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

What is HVAC and why are you guys recommending it?

Heating Vacuum and Air Conditioning systems.
I agree with the CDL idea. Weren’t you going to do that? Consider that again.

I am, but there are MANY downsides to trucking as well. And from older guys I hear it’s not the same as it used to be. In terms of money, independence etc etc

MGTOW AKBAR

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Be wary of automated trucking. Anything that can be automated will be automated and jobs will disappear eventually.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[HermitParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Funeral home is good steady business. No one else wants to deal with it which is an advantage.
HVAC.

I was seriously considering that when I was about to graduate high school, but didn’t have the money for the education. I think I would be way better off now if I had been able to get into that business.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Russky2 wrote:

Yeah man I’m thinking about that side effect really hard. I don’t know wtf to do really… everything sucks, and we are just a bunch of ants working for some f~~~ing queen that never put out a hard day’s grind in her life. ffs..

No matter what we “choose” to do we end up answering to some type of overlord.

There’s plenty of male bitches that you have to answer to in the trades as well.

I’ve known plenty that would throw Men under the bus because they went around being so damn job scared as in construction you are always working yourself out of a job.

I’m NOT saying that I have all the answers, but the simple REALITY is that USING your body to make money wears your body out over time, or you could have an “accident” that takes you out immediately.

Considering you already have back and knee issues; WHY would you INVEST the time, energy, and effort to train for in a physically demanding job?

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Awakened wrote:

Russky2 wrote:

Yeah man I’m thinking about that side effect really hard. I don’t know wtf to do really… everything sucks, and we are just a bunch of ants working for some f~~~ing queen that never put out a hard day’s grind in her life. ffs..

No matter what we “choose” to do we end up answering to some type of overlord.
There’s plenty of male bitches that you have to answer to in the trades as well.
I’ve known plenty that would throw Men under the bus because they went around being so damn job scared as in construction you are always working yourself out of a job.
I’m NOT saying that I have all the answers, but the simple REALITY is that USING your body to make money wears your body out over time, or you could have an “accident” that takes you out immediately.
Considering you already have back and knee issues; WHY would you INVEST the time, energy, and effort to train for in a physically demanding job?

It’s a good and serious question, and I’m thinking of all the other alternatives that could have less of a toll on your body. I guess the fact that there will be and is a demand for trades. HVAC seems to be paying decent, and I don’t know if it’s true but I was told that HVAC takes less physical toll on your body than plumbing. I have no idea though, there’s always conflicting stories.

So my question should then be: are there any trades where you don’t end up completely beaten in the end? Or should I consider a completely different career path?

MGTOW AKBAR

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Even embalmers have increased incidence of many cancers. Probably due to formalin and infections diseases.

To evaluate the potential carcinogenic effects of formaldehyde,
we examined the proportionate mortality experience of embalmers licensed to practice in California. Mortality was significantly
elevated for total cancer, arteriosclerotic heart disease, and
suicide, whereas significant deficits were noted in mortality from
diseases of the respiratory and genitourinary systems. Deaths
from cancers of the brain, colon, and prostate and leukemia
were significantly higher than expected. No increased mortality
was seen for cancers of the respiratory tract, including the nasal
passages, where an effect might be expected based on animal
studies. A parallel mortality survey of embalmers from New York
State showed similar findings, with excesses of brain tumors,
leukemia, colon cancer, arteriosclerotic heart disease, and cir
rhosis. Further investigation is needed to determine whether any
of these outcomes is related to formaldehyde exposure.

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/canres/44/10/4638.full.pdf

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Even embalmers have increased incidence of many cancers. Probably due to formalin and infections diseases.

To evaluate the potential carcinogenic effects of formaldehyde,we examined the proportionate mortality experience of embalmers licensed to practice in California. Mortality was significantlyelevated for total cancer, arteriosclerotic heart disease, andsuicide, whereas significant deficits were noted in mortality fromdiseases of the respiratory and genitourinary systems. Deathsfrom cancers of the brain, colon, and prostate and leukemiawere significantly higher than expected. No increased mortalitywas seen for cancers of the respiratory tract, including the nasalpassages, where an effect might be expected based on animalstudies. A parallel mortality survey of embalmers from New YorkState showed similar findings, with excesses of brain tumors,leukemia, colon cancer, arteriosclerotic heart disease, and cirrhosis. Further investigation is needed to determine whether anyof these outcomes is related to formaldehyde exposure.

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/canres/44/10/4638.full.pdf

Well if you’re a drinker, then consider quitting cause alcohol turns into formaldehyde by the liver..

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[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

OP….I can’t really advise you…but HVAC requires more technical knowledge than plumbing…and that would most likely work to your advantage in terms of pay and preventing pay from being lowered by Illegal Aliens.
What I can definitely advise…is to maximize your distance from women…especially in the workplace….keep it very professional…and ALL conversation extremely minimal to “yes”, “no”, “I don’t know”, “excuse me…I have to go”. NEVER under any circumstances socialize with women ESPECIALLY those that you work with.
A woman at work approaches you and makes eye contact and smiles…keep a poker face and turn your back on her and walk away….never make any small talk…just turn your back and walk away from them. Do your job, do not mentor them, do not help them, do not communicate with them any more than what is absolutely necessary, and never ever socialize with them.
Never make any smart aleck remark….just be silent…and walk away….never help them under any circumstances…just try to be invisible.
If they can’t lift something and they look at you and ask for help…just turn your back and walk away.
As far as you are concerned…they are ghosts: you do not see them or know that they even exist…treat them as such.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Russky….there’s Welding…and being an Automotive Technician….some welding specialties pay pretty well…such as welding Submarine Hulls or Steam pipes on Aircraft carriers and subs….Underwater Welding…you have to be young and in incredibly good shape….the pay is huge…so is the danger. Pipeline welders get good money. HVAC is good…I think better than plumbing. Also good is being an Electrician or a Machinist. Being a specialist in fixing Robotics (electro-mechanical and electronic) is also good. Or even programming and coding Device Drivers: software that actually controls a piece of hardware…that’s a good field; especially if you can make your code very efficient with fast execution times.

Basically any field that requires a lot of technical knowledge and (most especially) actual competency…means very few women…except for those in management and HR.
Anything that is difficult or dangerous: women will avoid like Kryptonite!

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Russky2 wrote:

So my question should then be: are there any trades where you don’t end up completely beaten in the end? Or should I consider a completely different career path?

In my OPINION, most trades take a toll on your body one way or another. Maybe with an HVAC tech there’s some less wear and tear if you provided service to businesses and homes, but you more than likely you still would be replacing a/c compressors, heating furnaces, boilers etc. So not only would you have plenty of interaction with the general public, but you would still have the physical aspects to deal with.

Go around the world and LOOK at all the HVAC equipment whether it’s in the basements of homes, or on the roof tops of buildings. How do you think it got there? How do you think it wll get out of there when you are called for a service call, and it needs to be replaced? Or, maybe you work for a company and your “boss” determines that you are better at installations instead of service, and all you do daily is work on removing the old and installing the new?

I knew an older(40’s) paper hanger 20 years ago. All this man did daily for YEARS was install commercial wallpaper in everything from hotels to office buildings. He had his tunes going, and would move along rapidly hanging these huge pieces of paper (commercial paper is much wider and thicker than residential paper). I commented to him once about his job looked pretty good, and he told me that it’s all he knew how to do, but he didn’t recommend ANY job that wears out your body. I thought his job was less wear and tear than your average trade, but he complained about the constant stretching, bending, climbing up and down his rolling scaffolding etc. etc. ALL DAY LONG DAY AFTER DAY. He had all types of aches, and pains DAILY that he had to work through.

I’m not against anyone going into any trade as they are NEEDED EVERYWHERE, but you should evaluate ALL SIDES before you INVEST your Time, Energy, Resources, and Efforts, and even then there are no guarantees just like the rest of life.

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