Need advice

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Hey fellas,

Yet once again I got fired from my newer job, some c~~~ bitched about me and a bunch of others bitched about me backing her up. Obviously some stupid bulls~~~ that I don’t even feel like getting into, but they have more value than myself as I’ve been told so the client decided to pull a trigger on me. Ohh well, I’m used to s~~~ like this by now.

But the good thing is that I’m definitely going to trade school either for plumbing (this fall) or hvac this winter. But I can’t decide which one I should go into. Obviously there’s s~~~ to deal with (literally) in either one, but which one would be a better bet long term? Plumbing schooling is 1 year, and then apprenticeship, hrac program is 2 years and then more training as well.

Looking through some job adds, it seems that HVAC guys have the potential to make more money than in plumbing. And work tends to be a bit cleaner. Yet that’s only my observation. So I would appreciate any input.

MGTOW AKBAR

[bstoffParticipant 4865]

I guess go into HVAC.
I’d avoid working with people if I were you.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

bstoff wrote:

I guess go into HVAC.I’d avoid working with people if I were you.

I definitely need a job or career where I don’t have to deal with people….everyone has this attitude that security guards are responsible for everything and all the world’s problems are their fault lol.

MGTOW AKBAR

[DeadhoodParticipant 155]

Hvac would have less people to deal with, both options make bitching good money so it’s up to you. Also look for whic ever option has less competition and or workers in general

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Deadhood wrote:

Hvac would have less people to deal with, both options make bitching good money so it’s up to you. Also look for whic ever option has less competition and or workers in general

So it’s for real that in HVAC there’s less people to deal with? I’m all in then!!!
What about industrial electrician?

MGTOW AKBAR

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

I don’t know anything about HVAC, but a friend of mine is a master plumber and he’s told me all kinds of crazy stories about what some of these wives get up to when all he wants to do is go in, fix the damn thing, and get on to the next house. Also: There are crazy people in this world. He told me about walking into one area and when he opened the door the smell of gas almost dropped him on the spot. PEOPLE WERE LIVING UP IN THERE LIKE IT AIN’T NO PROBLEM!! This was back when some chick bending over or showing her goodies to the plumber was just out to get some new dick. This was long before #MeToo though. I’d say the HVAC job sounds better only for the fact that I don’t know anything about it.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

HVAC downside is heat (can lead to heatstroke), (itchy) insulation, and potentially dealing with bugs and spiders.

The downside of plumbing is potentially dealing with bugs and spiders, potential disease from dealing human waste, and many of the glues used in pipe fittings can mess with a person’s brain.

I suggest HVAC.

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

Underwater welding….

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22534]

Russky2 wrote:

Hey fellas,
Yet once again I got fired from my newer job, some c~~~ bitched about me and a bunch of others bitched about me backing her up. Obviously some stupid bulls~~~ that I don’t even feel like getting into, but they have more value than myself as I’ve been told so the client decided to pull a trigger on me. Ohh well, I’m used to s~~~ like this by now.
But the good thing is that I’m definitely going to trade school either for plumbing (this fall) or hvac this winter. But I can’t decide which one I should go into. Obviously there’s s~~~ to deal with (literally) in either one, but which one would be a better bet long term? Plumbing schooling is 1 year, and then apprenticeship, hrac program is 2 years and then more training as well.
Looking through some job adds, it seems that HVAC guys have the potential to make more money than in plumbing. And work tends to be a bit cleaner. Yet that’s only my observation. So I would appreciate any input.

Eithermis good, just depends if you want to deal with the s~~~ and gunk that clogs pipes.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Commercial HVAC, electrician

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Branched offParticipant 10933]

You can’t go wrong with a good trade. Provided you come when you say you will and politely do what you agreed to do you will prosper, the government will be less able to screw you over and once you have a good client basis no one can ever really fire you. Trade is one of the few places a man can preserve a modicum of independence today and also get away from women (except when they pay you which makes a nice change to your paying for their time).

As a successful tradesman, I can tell you that if you are not good at getting along with people, you will still be at a disadvantage in trade because there is no one to hide behind -you are the business. You are the office they will complain to or that they will cancel at short notice when they decide to go on holiday and screw you over when you booked the week out to them and you are the operator doing the job and sometimes you have to be both at the same time on two different jobs (which is stressful). If you work for a company this problem is removed but then you are back to working for someone, taking orders and fitting in and usually on a tight time schedule that you can’t dictate.

If you are able to be liked and trusted by your clients after a few years there is no need to advertise and you will end up turning down more business that you accept. If you are a bit difficult or a bit sharp on the pricing or don’t turn up when promised you will have to advertise extensively. The difference is huge here between good tradesmen and bad ones.

In choosing a trade it is well to consider how you will like the work in all seasons and all weathers and all the times of day that trade are usually called out. In the end it probably matters more than the pay because it will be the same old same old every day for the rest of your working life. Sure every site is a different problem to solve but it is the same thing you are doing. As your body ages, so some of it will get harder and it is well worth considering this from the start in choosing the trade but if it is a skilled trade you will also build up a real bank of skill that will let you do stuff two or three times faster than new guys.

If possible volunteer to work for free as an assistant for a week for a tradesman in each trade and see what you think. Pick a well respected local expert. You will learn a lot and be given a huge amount of tips as to how to get started efficiently.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9550]

What is HVAC and why are you guys recommending it?

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[AutoliteParticipant]

What about becoming a welder? I think heard about Canada building a pipeline or something today…

[SpleeferParticipant 959]

Dude you need to get your CDL. For some reason I thought you liked driving. Trades have token women jobs all throughout the jobsite. You can’t get away from them.

Galatians 5:1 (KJV) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

[MonkParticipant 16995]

Whatever trade you pick, make sure that it is essential. Something that people are always going to need – not something that fluctuates with the market.

The next consideration is it being something that avoids, or at least minimises contact with people, especially women (as things get worse, they will become even more predatory and troublesome).

Something technical, like industrial electrician (with a sideline in domestic work if you choose), seems to fit most of these criteria.

[WallyParticipant]

Autolite wrote:

What about becoming a welder? I think heard about Canada building a pipeline or something today…

I agree, this would be an excellent option to include, all three- plumbing, welding, and HVAC offer good pay.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[WarfishParticipant 408]

Russky2 wrote:

Deadhood wrote:

Hvac would have less people to deal with, both options make bitching good money so it’s up to you. Also look for whic ever option has less competition and or workers in general

So it’s for real that in HVAC there’s less people to deal with? I’m all in then!!!What about industrial electrician?

That’s what I was going to say. Electricians make pretty good money. 2nd would be HVAC

[TaxGuyParticipant]

A couple things that haven’t been mentioned. Plumbing is hard on your back, you are on your hands and knees much of the time. Plus, how big are you? I’m 6’5″ and I had tough times with plumbing sometimes. It’s hard to fit all of that into a small spot, plus my hands are bigger than average. There’s a lot of tight spaces in plumbing. Other than that, my “second dad” said it best. “All you have to remember is that s~~~ flow downstream and payday is Friday”.

The advantage with HVAC is that it is predominately dealing with businesses. Unless you end up working on home air conditioning systems. This eliminates much of the female BS you’ve been dealing with. Most large buildings have a maintenance MAN to deal with.

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

What is HVAC and why are you guys recommending it?

It’s air conditioning systems. Mostly large commercial buildings, but I’m guessing it can also be home A/C units.

Welding is an interesting option. No one is talking to you when you are welding.

The only problem I see with truck driving is automated trucks. I have my doubts about them completely replacing truck drivers, but it will probably make a dent in the amount of drivers needed. One business model I’ve seen would have a station between major cities and the automated truck would drive from station to station. From there the driver would pick up the truck and get it through the city traffic to where it needs to go.

Order the good wine

[AutoliteParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

Welding is an interesting option. No one is talking to you when you are welding.

Few females will be encountered as a welder. I’d say ‘nil’ as a pipeline welder…

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22534]

Monk wrote:

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Funeral home trades it is, then. Everyone needs a mortician at some point. 🙂

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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